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Old Posted Jun 14, 2021, 1:35 AM
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I sort of get the point of the article, but this part describing the supposed "conservative" mentality seems to contradict

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Originally Posted by RST500 View Post
The article calls out that mentality of conservativism as well:

"Right-wingers hate the idea of diversity, even if pan-enclavism is less actively detrimental to Whites, and center-right and center-left types, especially the older generations, will simply never let go of the Universalist American liberal ideal and the idea of one unified society."

https://robertstark.substack.com/p/c...-pan-enclavism
... this type of mindset.

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White people hate being called European-American because it implies that their ancestors come from somewhere else (duh) like all the other ethnic groups here. Most White Americans honestly believe that America is their God-given "homeland" and that every other ethnic group is a "guest" who are obliged to be grateful to their white "hosts".
How is believing that "that every other ethnic group is a "guest" who are obliged to be grateful to their white "hosts"." consistent with "the Universalist American liberal ideal and the idea of one unified society".

If you (not talking about you or anyone personally here but broadly speaking), believe only one racial or ethnic group owns America as their "homeland", and hosts the others as guests, that mentality is not exactly one called "universalist", but particularist.

Even if you take as given ideal all groups assimilating into one American culture (speak English, eat apple pie or whatever normative Anglo-American culture you treat as "default"), it would still not follow that after everyone assimilated into said unified society any one group composing it, alone "hosts" the country. Assimilated, Black, Asian, Hispanic, Native or whatever group would "co-host" in this so-called unified American society alongside and along with those of European descent. Even if then, still-newer unassimilated immigrants, are argued to be guests compared to the "already-here" in American society.

And that's not even questioning the assumption that traditionally the conservative view (well, depends on how far back you call "traditional" or "conservative") was wanting a whole bunch of people of diverse origins to integrate into one American culture no matter their prior culture. More likely it was to not want certain groups to even have the chance to integrate into America, or at least be segregated away while in America -- for some, preferably to not come to America to begin with, or if already here, to to then leave.