[KevininPhx]

Originally Posted by Jjs5056

Sean, are you sure about the waiting list component? That's the first I've heard, and is unfortunate if true. They do need to sign a waiver that they are okay living in an urban, noisy environment, but yes, ideally, the residents should be those WANTING the experience outright.

As for your second point, I absolutely agree. I have been saying the same all year long and gotten shit for being too negative. But, I can't think of a single market rate apartment complex built in either downtown Tempe or downtown Phoenix since the crash aside from CityScape. Tempe is at least getting HF lofts and USA Place, but for Phoenix, prime property is being swallowed by those with low discretionary income and, while diversity is great, it doesn't help change the image most have of downtown Phoenix when most of the residents are in this demo.

Um, OK, I can be wrong. But aren't you the same person who was / is bitching about the 275 market-rate apartments proposed for Buchanan?