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Elon Musk’s Boring Co. discussed a JFK transit tunnel with city officials

February 14, 2019


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Elon Musk’s Boring Co. at one point talked with New York City-area officials about connecting John F. Kennedy International Airport with Manhattan directly via tunnel, a route long considered a kind of holy grail for weary transit riders traveling into and out of the city. But regional engineers raised concerns over the Boring Co. tunnel’s feasibility.

Possible problems identified by the engineers included ventilation issues, the potential impact on existing New York tunnels and the logistics of emergency response, according to a person who reviewed the engineers’ report but who asked not to be identified because the matter is private. The report was completed in recent weeks, the person said.

“New York officials informally reached out to us last year to see if our capabilities would be useful to them,” a spokesman for the Boring Co. said. “We get approached by tons of cities who are similarly interested in learning more.” The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey declined to comment.
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Some of the issues flagged by the engineers would affect any new tunnel under the East River, which separates Manhattan from Queens, where the airport is located. But there were also other issues particular to the Boring Co., which proposed a pair of tunnels of less than 14 feet in diameter, about half the width of most one-lane tunnels, the person said. A spokesman for Boring Co. emphasized that its discussions were preliminary and did not rise to the level of a detailed proposal from the company.

The Boring Co. outline called for running autonomous electric vehicles in rapid succession through the tunnels, one for inbound and one for outbound, a concept that is similar to what the company proposed for a project in Chicago and what it outlines on its website. The narrow width keeps tunneling costs and time down, but also raised questions about how emergency response teams would get in and out if necessary, the person said.

On its website, Boring Co. compares its system to subway rail tunnels, saying that like subways, it will have regular emergency exits—but unlike subways, will not have a high-voltage third rail. Exit paths in the tunnel will be “safer and wider” than existing comparable infrastructure, “despite the reduced tunnel diameter,” the site says. It also says that fire risk is low not just because of the lack of a third rail, but because of the tunnel’s non-flammable concrete lining.
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The idea of a nonstop ride between JFK Airport and Manhattan has been studied from time to time since the 1960s. It resurfaced repeatedly in recent decades, particularly under former Governor George Pataki, but has never gained political traction, in part because of the expense. Current New York Governor Andrew Cuomo revived the idea in a speech two years ago.

Today, riders can get to JFK via public transit, but have to transfer from the subway to the AirTrain. That connection to JFK opened in 2003, and links the airport to nearby subway and train stations in Queens. The city also plans to conduct an environmental study for a proposed 1.5-mile tunnel connecting LaGuardia Airport to local public transportation.
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