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You want to tell me Les Halles is used less intensely than Penn?
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Obviously, yes. Chatalet isn't even an intercity station, and has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Chatalet would be analogous to Times Square, Herald Square or Union Square. RER numbers at Chatalet are nowhere close to Penn (or Gare du Nord or countless other stations).
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Which is not funded and the future of which is highly dependent on federal level politics. Also neither of the new portal bridge projects are funded either which are required to utilize new Hudson tubes.
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Not true, Gateway already has more than $2 billion in secured funding commitments.
And I have no idea what any of these means. Because an idiot is in the White House, NYC should destroy itself?
Obviously local agencies will continue to push for improvements to Penn and other transit systems, even if the feds are presently hostile. These projects take years and you don't just throw up your hands and do nothing because there's an idiot in office, especially because states and localities can do a lot on their own. There will probably be five more Presidents before everything gets wrapped up with the Empire Station complex.
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ESA was supposed to be in service a decade ago and looks sketchy to make the 2022 completion.
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What is your point? Do you have any point? Should we blow up Grand Central because we have to wait two more years for service?
The underground North End of Grand Central, planned from the beginning, wasn't built until the 1990's, 80 years after the station was built. When you enter Grand Central from the north, along Madison, Park and Lex, you're using a section of the station that is only 25 years old.
If you were in charge of the NY Central RR back in the early 1900's, you probably would have ordered terminal construction to halt, because the project was incomplete. Absurd. There is no perfect project.
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The Ronkonkoma double track only finished near the end of 2018 and the third main is scheduled (lol) for 2022.
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Again, what is your point? You're just saying random things about transit projects not getting completed by their initial dates, as if this is unexpected, rare or relevant. We know that big transit projects are delayed by years/decades, and over budget, worldwide . That doesn't mean you do nothing.
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Had it been completed on time the ESA terminal would have sat there not much raising overall LIRR capacity for probably 15 years. What a country.
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No. Totaly nonsense. In your weird, irrelevent hypothetical, ESA would have provided massive new capacity by offering eight new platforms at Grand Central, and a new East River tunnel, where there was previously none. The LI track expansions are primarily useful for reverse commuting, and provide slightly more inbound rush hour capacity, but will not make much of a difference with overall ESA ridership. Only 2 of 9 lines are affected.