TORONTO l Oxford Place l 326 M / 1,070 FT x 2 l Norman Foster
This is the Toronto Metro Convention Centre Redevelopment. This whole proposal is massive as it incorporates the long awaited Toronto Casino, a brand new convention centre, two office supertalls and two other buildings all while building over rail tracks (and demolishing the old convention centre).
"Oxford Place Facts Developer and owner: Oxford Properties Group Architect and Planner: Foster + Partners Location: Front Street, bounded by Simcoe Street and Blue Jays Way Total area: 11 acres with 7.35 million SF of master planned mixed-use development Elements: * 1.1 million SF of Convention Centre * 2.5 million SF of Office * 1 million SF of Retail * 600,000 SF of Residential * 450,000 SF of Casino and Amenity Space * 1.7 million SF of Hotel and Amenity Space * 4,000 Parking Stalls On-Site * 5.5 acres of public parkland, cooperating with neighboring stakeholders Timeline: Contingent on City of Toronto support and Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corporation operator selection process. Oxford will be in a position to submit a rezoning application shortly after the necessary decisions are made." http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle4608014/ http://www.marketwire.com/press-rele...to-1712716.htm http://torontoist.com/wp-content/upl...-rendering.jpg http://oxfordplace.ca/images/slide-aerialSkyline.jpg http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/837...photoen201.jpg |
What is the likelihood that the casino will pass ?
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Are those twin tower supertalls? WOW!
Looks like one massive project. |
There's been a lot of talk in the past couple of years of a casino in downtown Toronto. Often it's talk of converting the land at Ontario Place, but in my opinion a more centrally located casino to the downtown core is more likely to be approved.
I can't say for sure, but I would postulate that there is a very high likelihood that the casino will be approved. |
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The image states "For massing / illustration only".
The casino will pass once a few people's pockets have been lined with that green stuff. I'd rather not see twin towers, as we have so many of them as is - but the development does look promising. |
Yes, these illustrations are rarely accurate when it comes to scale. They usually enlarge the proposal and reduce the size of everything else. The Delta Hotel (blocked by the 'Convention Centre' sign) is actually 160m tall or 29% the height of the CN Tower, but here they've made it look much shorter than that.
If the scale in the illustration is accurate, the office twins would be about 350m but as I've pointed out the scale is off. |
This better be a supertall |:c.
Su-per-tall, su-per-tall~ |
Ah, very hard for this one to actually get approved. No doubt this one is going to take some time. Yes, I hope the towers are supertalls but I wouldnt get my hopes up.
Also, the fact that it is right in downtown upsets a lot of people due to traffic concerns and the concerns of people with gambling problems. The traffic concern is a reasonable concern, because a casino will definetly cause pressure on the roads and on the gardiner. But the concern about those with gambling problems is ridiculous. If that made sense then why keep any beer shops open? Close them down as well for those that are alcoholics. Considering this is Toronto, this is a very decent proposal overall. |
I also think this isn't the best location for a casino. Its a good location, don't get me wrong; but the best option IMO would be to build it on an artificial island they make by Ontario place. Who knows, maybe a hotel on that island too? Very Burj al Arab.
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^ I would agree but the same arguments would still pop up...transportation (if it is an island then will there be ferries or the additional cost of a tunnel?). Also, the problem of those with gambling problems and so on...
It just seems like everything is criticized a bit much without giving a proper answer. City council really havent seem to have given a definite answer as to if they even want a casino. Same with the people of Toronto. And those that want it but not like this dont have a proper alternative themselves. (There was a thought to put it in Scarborough which eases on the traffic problem but I dont think Oxford wants to put it there because its not as glamorous as being close to downtown Toronto). |
No, you want a casino central and easily accessible not tucked away on some out of the way place. What's the good of that?
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Here is the site of the eastern two towers of this project.
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Word out of City Council is that the 2 tall eastern office towers are each 326m or 1070ft.
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TORONTO l Oxford Place l 326 M / 1,070 FT x 2 l Norman Foster
Rumours of two supertalls coming to Oxford Place. 1070 feet each Foster will design.
http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2012/10/...ll-skyscrapers |
http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2012/10/...ll-skyscrapers
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Toronto gets First Supertall Proposal in Ten Years
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QIqGOsIA2q...rmanfoster.jpg Norman Foster New York City Design for World Trade Centre Toronto Gets First Supertall Proposal in 10 Years Today, we have learned through the administrators over at the forum www.urbantoronto.ca that the Oxford proposal for the Convention Centre and Railway lands south of Front Street in downtown Toronto and adjacent to the Union Centre Rail Terminal Plan two office skyscrapers with a total height of each tower to be 326 meters high. The secret did not reveal how many planned floors these office towers would have but at that height they would have to be between 75 to 85 office floors to attain that height. Old New York World Trade Centre Design? A question that has been asked by many on the Urban Toronto Forum, is whether these designs have been poached from the design competition to replace the New York City World Trade Centre Towers in 2001. The design looks similar to a Norman Foster proposal that I have included here: The proposals for the Toronto Convention Centre look quite familiar, almost like we've seen them before. And trust it's not that we don't mind having them here in our city. We will take them, for the number one reason that they are not a box. So the party of speculation now begins regarding timelines, although to be honest, for these towers to begin, the convention centre must first be rebuilt, and relocated for that all to happen the current site would need to be demolished, but without loosing any convention space. So this timeline will be drawn out. Still we are excited about the prospect of these towers gracing the skyline, and right next to the CN Tower, nonetheless. The Oxford Proposal for the Toronto Convention Centre and Railway Lands For those uninitiated here is the Oxford Proposal for the Toronto Railway lands that was revealed about two weeks ago. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-djpSJ3NWbm...convention.jpg |
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