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We already have the Aqueduct “racino”, and numerous casinos upstate. The 3 remaining casino licenses will be downstate in New York City and region.
https://casinobeats.com/2021/10/21/n...ssues-rfi/?amp New York to potentially add three casinos as regulator issues RFI October 21, 2021 Quote:
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https://nypost.com/2021/10/20/gaming...-nyc-area/amp/ Gaming agency seeks bids to open casinos in NYC area By Carl Campanile and Bernadette Hogan October 20, 2021 Quote:
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https://www.casino.org/news/empire-c...o-license/amp/
As Empire City Turns 15, MGM Resorts Reiterates Interest in Full Casino License https://www-casino-org.cdn.ampprojec...3-1024x760.png Quote:
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Hard Rock considering two NYC-area casinos 8 miles apart Wayne Parry October 27, 2021 Quote:
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I doubt more would be built in Westchester due to Yonkers and Connecticut already having multiple. No way in Rockland because of suburban NIMBYs. Queens/Long Island seems okay. A Staten Island Casino would bring in a lot of economic activity to the forgotten borough, but the development sites are limited - I can only imagine it being on the North Shore near St. George and the Ferry terminal. Maaaybe Manhattan? But casinos like huge floors to fit in as many retail stores and gambling stations as possible. Manhattan is not ideal for such an operation.
I think an ideal place would be Governor's Island. It's already rezoned for hotels. |
Casinos are banned on Governors Island, along with residential development. BTW, I forgot to mention that Govs Island is open year ‘round now. Some of the best news of the year.
Existing sites (like Westchester and Queens) probably have an advantage. They’re already up and running, bringing in a gazillion dollars, and have room for expansion. If they ever did decide to put one in Manhattan, it should be on the west side, near the Javits. Times Square has way too much going on. Another logical place would be Coney Island in Brooklyn. It could jumpstart the indoor amusement district, finally realizing the goal of making the area more than seasonal. |
Yes to Coney Island, seems like an appropriate fit. Leisure and vice. Not sure why anyone would think Governors Island would be a good spot for a casino, whether they're banned or not. The only possible benefit I could see would be it might push a 1 train extension to Red Hook via Gov Island one step closer to serious consideration.
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https://www.sportico.com/business/fi...234645247/amp/
Mets Owner Steve Cohen in Talks on Sands Casino Near Citi Field Scott Soshnick and Eben Novy-Williams October 29, 2021 Quote:
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https://acropreneur.com/a-plan-for-a...r-landing-pad/
A plan for a $3 billion casino in New York’s Manhattan includes a massive crypto-trading floor and a flying-car landing pad Quote:
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-trading-floor New York City Casino Pitch Includes Cryptocurrency Trading Floor Ader’s $3 billion plan includes landing pad for flying cars By Christopher Palmeri December 7, 2021 Quote:
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Any casino development would put in those proposed red light districts wouldn't they? If those ever pan out, I have no idea if they will.
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Would love to see a casino in Manhattan. Forget the prunes inflecting their values on to others. It will be a major tourist draw and would bring in a ton of revenue for the city and State.
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^ Somewhere around Javits would be good for a Manhattan location.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...esort-in-vegas Hard Rock to Say Goodbye to Mirage’s Volcano, Eyes NYC Casino ByChristopher Palmeri December 13, 2021 Quote:
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They should make a casino where the whole thing feels like an illicit underground Chinatown poker den. Matt Damon and Edward Norton could make periodical appearances.
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Lol, you never know. I don’t think the flying car thing is gonna fly but you never know.
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Also flying electric cars and copters can alleviate the elevator problem in tall buildings meaning we should now be able to build comfortably over 2000 ft. :shrug: |
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And that's not even commenting on the practicality of such a system. Now that's not to say they're impossible, they aren't, but don't get your hopes up just yet. |
https://www.timesunion.com/news/arti...C-16705067.php
Major Las Vegas players are interested in NYC casinos Rush Street, which owns Schenectady's Rivers Casino, also wants in Rick Karlin Dec. 15, 2021 Quote:
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https://www.thecentersquare.com/new_...7d995.amp.html
New York receives 30 responses to downstate casino information request Quote:
https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/ga...no-action/?amp Gaming Operators Lining Up to Get in on New York’s Casino Action By Erik Gibbs December 17, 2021 Quote:
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It'll be interesting to watch this unfold and compare it to what is being proposed in Chicago.
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https://nypost.com/2021/12/15/water-...ast-river/amp/
Water Club owner wants to get rolling on NYC’s East River with ‘Monte Carlo’ casino By Carl Campanile and Josh Kosman December 15, 2021 Quote:
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https://nypost.com/2021/12/19/adrien...uct-racetrack/
Speaker-elect Adrienne Adams supports casino expansion at Aqueduct Racetrack By Carl Campanile and Josh Kosman December 19, 2021 Quote:
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Most people just go into casinos for fun anyway. Most people don’t go in expecting to hit the jackpot.
https://www.qchron.com/editions/quee...60ffd0e5b.html Casino at Willets Point a possiblity NYS Gaming Commission sent out requests for information by Sophie Krichevsky Dec 23, 2021 Quote:
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https://therealdeal.com/2022/01/18/h...-area-casinos/
Hochul seeks to fast-track NYC-area casinos Budget proposal advances timeline by two years Jan. 18, 2022 By Kathryn Brenzel Quote:
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I'm a tad upset that New Jersey did not authorize a Northern Jersey casino a few years back. One was proposed in Jersey City at Liberty State Park (with a 95-storey hotel) and another in the Meadowlands. The idea was to build one before Manhattan. It would have been a huge tourist draw. Now that's a lost cause because no one is going to Jersey to gamble when there is a casino in the heart of Manhattan. A lot of potential tax dollars and economic revenue for New Jersey lost for New York's benefit due to the dithering and this misguided belief that Atlantic City will make a comeback somehow. With a Manhattan casino, Atlantic City is going to fade away into the Ocean as far as gaming relevancy. |
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Hard Rock has 3 potential sites for a New York City casino Associated Press Quote:
https://www.fox5ny.com/news/hard-roc...ity-casino.amp Hard Rock NYC casino sites explored By WAYNE PARRY Quote:
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^ that's going to turn out way more stucco than monaco. :yuck:
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The new Sin City? Gov. Kathy Hochul could FAST TRACK approval for three new casinos in NYC-area aimed at wealthy gamblers within days - including a 'Monaco-style gambling den atop Saks Fifth Avenue'
The governor and Dem leaders are expected to hammer out a deal that could see a casino for high rollers atop the famous shopping location The deal would allow gaming licenses to be rushed through as part of the state's budget at a price tag of $1billion Currently, only three of the state's 25 casinos are 'downstate' - one in Queens, one in Yonkers and a third on Long Island The betting companies have spent about $300,000 a month to try and bring the casinos to Manhattan The Hotel and Gaming Trades Council, who endorsed Hochul's re-election bid, are also lobbying hard The union has given over $880,000 in campaign contributions to Democrats in Albany since 2020 Eric Adams' chief of staff Frank Carone recently met with Robert Goldstein, the CEO of Las Vegas Sands. Adams wants at least two of the three licenses to go to New York City https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Manhattan.html |
New Jersey had a chance at capturing some of the Manhattan gaming market, but politicians wanted to keep the Atlantic City monopoly on life support. Looks like New York is being smart and will capture all that gaming revenue. I don't know who visits Atlantic City to gamble, but I'm thinking one or two casinos in Manhattan is going to cut into their market share.
New York City is the greatest city in the world and that should include being able to legally pay a game of blackjack or Texas Hold'em poker if I'm so inclined to spend my money on that entertainment. That stupid so-called casino in Queens doesn't count. |
This is why there needs to be term limits at all levels. When people stay in positions of power for too long, they start to feel like their personal feelings and opinions are the only things that matter, loyal subjects be damned.
https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs...nhattan-casino The longest-serving state legislator is nervous about proposed Manhattan casino By Joseph Konig Manhattan Apr. 05, 2022 Quote:
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Just put it in Times Square. No degradation lmao
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the Marriot Marquis has kind of a casino look...
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The issue with a Manhattan casino is that to have a good casino you need big floorplates, and that would be a hard site to find in Manhattan. Something in Times Sq or Herald Sq would be fairly small and crappy. Even the current Resorts World in Queens is fairly "meh", even though I hear they are making tons of money.
I am also surprised none of the official proposals are floating Coney Island, I think it would be a great spot there as well. |
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Says who? Just because suburban campus casinos are set up like this doesn't mean that a tighter urban casino with plenty of vertical circulation couldn't be just as successful. |
They might be able to find the floorplates necessary in HY. Especially at 30 HY, though I don't know the occupancy of that or if they want a more specialized building for it.
Besides it's Manhattan, if they can't find the space they'll just have to deal with smaller floorplates because there's no way they're not building one here if they're allowed to. |
^ The HY towers are full. Then there’s the issue of tenants. None of the current (or likely potential) tenants would want the chaos of a NYC casino in their building. A hotel is another matter, and would be best for a casino.
They could have put one on the pier (behind Javits), but that’s a park now. The larger of the 2 sites the state owns in HY would be a good location, next to the Javits. But they likely want housing there. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/02/n...n-nyc.amp.html 5 Things to Know About Casinos That May Be Headed for the N.Y.C. Area Yonkers, Queens and maybe Manhattan: The sites for three new casinos have not yet been set in stone. By Dana Rubinstein May 2, 2022 Quote:
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https://gothamist.com/news/new-york-...states-big-bet
New York City casinos: What to know about the state’s big bet BY JON CAMPBELL MAY 1, 2022 Quote:
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Quotes from Steven Roth on Virnado’s potential casino bid…
https://www.fool.com/earnings/call-t...ings-call-tra/ Vornado Realty Trust (VNO) Q1 2022 Earnings Call Transcript By Motley Fool Transcribing May 3, 2022 Quote:
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NYC developers eyeing casinos for Hudson Yards, Times Square, Willets Point, Coney Island https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...A.IMG_2692.JPG By Carl Campanile, Bernadette Hogan, Josh Kosman and Steve Cuozzo July 24, 2022 Quote:
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Related wanted a casino/new MSG at Hudson Yards.
https://therealdeal.com/2022/07/25/d...h-to-move-msg/ Dolan rejected Stephen Ross pitch to move MSG Related floated Hudson Yards as home for Madison Square Garden Jul. 25, 2022 Quote:
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https://archinect.com/news/article/1...en-t-buying-in
Some of NYC’s biggest high-rollers want a casino in Coney Island, but local residents aren’t buying in Josh Niland By Josh Niland Aug 4, '22 Quote:
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https://commercialobserver.com/2022/...n-casino-push/
The Push to Build a Casino in Manhattan Could Turn Out to be a House of Cards 'The level of support in Manhattan for a casino ranges from strongly opposed to nuclear opposition.' BY AARON SHORT AUGUST 9, 2022 Quote:
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Traffic and noise in Manhattan. Who would guess? |
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