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10023 Jan 16, 2021 3:20 PM

^ my wife’s parents in the US have all gotten their vaccines already. Even 80 year olds can use the internet, or have family that can help.

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Originally Posted by Omaharocks (Post 9160330)
^ Times may be rough in the UK for many, but trust me, things are no better here in the U.S. And there has been a similar exodus of immigrants due to rising unemployment, though not sure it's to same scale as UK.

U.S. democracy has been approaching the abyss for awhile, even Britain looks comparatively stable.

I know the situation in the US, and it is vastly better than here. Even the politics, below the surface, are better because the institutions are stronger and less subject to the whims of the current leadership.

toddguy Jan 16, 2021 4:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 9161931)
^ my wife’s parents in the US have all gotten their vaccines already. Even 80 year olds can use the internet, or have family that can help.



I know the situation in the US, and it is vastly better than here. Even the politics, below the surface, are better because the institutions are stronger and less subject to the whims of the current leadership.

Sorry but you are wrong. This is Ohio, and two other people(myself and someone else)have been helping him.

There is no ability in Ohio to get the vaccine right now if you are a member of the general public. It will not start here until Monday. They are opening vaccination up to only those 80 and up(he is 92)on that day-at least for residents of Franklin County(Columbus).

Before then it has only been provided to health care workers, first responders, and those in group care facilities or in nursing homes.

The situation here sucks. The CDC gives the states guidelines, and then it is up to each state to set up a way of giving the vaccinations.

Your parents must be in a state that has different guidelines. But it is what it is-it is up to each state.

SteveD Jan 16, 2021 4:58 PM

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Originally Posted by toddguy (Post 9162011)
Sorry but you are wrong. This is Ohio, and two other people(myself and someone else)have been helping him.

There is no ability in Ohio to get the vaccine right now if you are a member of the general public. It will not start here until Monday. They are opening vaccination up to only those 80 and up(he is 92)on that day.

Before then it has only been provided to health care workers, first responders, and those in group care facilities or in nursing homes.

The situation here sucks.

It's worse in GA. We usually don't register worst nationwide in any metric but we are sucking wind big time with vaccine rollout. We have the lowest percentage of vaccine in arms of people anywhere in the country. I haven't heard a good explanation why yet.

toddguy Jan 16, 2021 5:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveD (Post 9162014)
It's worse in GA. We usually don't register worst nationwide in any metric but we are sucking wind big time with vaccine rollout. We have the lowest percentage of vaccine in arms of people anywhere in the country. I haven't heard a good explanation why yet.

yeah I saw that I think on CNN's site. I am surprised Ohio was not on the list of the worst, and not surprised that Ohio was [B]not[B] on the list of best-this is Ohio and all here lol.

I also need the vaccine as I am high risk, and will still have to quarantine except for essential needs until then.

Is there anywhere in the World where this vaccine rollout has gone well? smh.

iheartthed Jan 16, 2021 5:09 PM

Many states will run out of vaccine next week since the federal government apparently misled everyone about how much it has stockpiled.

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Trump administration accused of deception in pledging release of vaccine stockpile

NEW YORK/LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The governors of several states accused the Trump administration on Friday of deception in pledging to immediately distribute millions of COVID-19 vaccine doses from a stockpile that the U.S. health secretary has since acknowledged does not exist.

Confusion over a vaccine supply windfall that was promised to governors but failed to materialize arose as scattered shortages emerged on the frontlines of the most ambitious and complex immunization campaign in U.S. history, prompting at least one large New York healthcare system to cancel a slew of inoculation appointments.

https://news.yahoo.com/scattered-u-v...193103180.html

SIGSEGV Jan 16, 2021 5:30 PM

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Originally Posted by toddguy (Post 9162020)
yeah I saw that I think on CNN's site. I am surprised Ohio was not on the list of the worst, and not surprised that Ohio was [B]not[B] on the list of best-this is Ohio and all here lol.

I also need the vaccine as I am high risk, and will still have to quarantine except for essential needs until then.

Is there anywhere in the World where this vaccine rollout has gone well? smh.

Israel? I also hear that Greenland will have it's entire population vaccinated soon. Currently Greenland has closed ita borders and I'm watching with great interest as I'm trying to deploy an experiment there over the summer (was supposed to happen last year but you can guess how that went...)

toddguy Jan 16, 2021 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by iheartthed (Post 9162022)
Many states will run out of vaccine next week since the federal government apparently misled everyone about how much it has stockpiled.

Why am I not surprised? This is just pathetic and unconscionable IMO.
I really hope they can get some in here-the other person working to get my father scheduled was able to "pull some strings" and got him an appt. for Thursday-it does help to know the right people I guess. I just hope they have the vaccine there for him.

10023 Feb 10, 2021 2:24 PM

Last week I decided that I had had enough and booked an Airbnb in South Florida. We both got negative Covid test results 24 hours before our flight and arrived on Friday.

What a difference. Firstly the weather makes a lot more possible, but there is also some semblance of normal life here. Bars and restaurants and nowhere near as crowded as normal, but you can go to them, and interact with strangers, and generally engage in human activity. There is a midnight curfew that is generally enforced, but to be honest this is helpful given that I’m still working remotely with Europe. The gyms are open, and while any serious cardio with a mask is pretty intolerable (but you can do that outside), lifting weights is doable.

I feel much better being here after 3 months of winter lockdown in London where I was becoming homicidal (let alone suicidal).

And Florida is doing significantly better than England in terms of Covid deaths. Lockdowns don’t even work and the UK’s real problem is its crappy public health system and substandard nursing homes.

jtown,man Feb 11, 2021 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 9186546)
Last week I decided that I had had enough and booked an Airbnb in South Florida. We both got negative Covid test results 24 hours before our flight and arrived on Friday.

What a difference. Firstly the weather makes a lot more possible, but there is also some semblance of normal life here. Bars and restaurants and nowhere near as crowded as normal, but you can go to them, and interact with strangers, and generally engage in human activity. There is a midnight curfew that is generally enforced, but to be honest this is helpful given that I’m still working remotely with Europe. The gyms are open, and while any serious cardio with a mask is pretty intolerable (but you can do that outside), lifting weights is doable.

I feel much better being here after 3 months of winter lockdown in London where I was becoming homicidal (let alone suicidal).

And Florida is doing significantly better than England in terms of Covid deaths. Lockdowns don’t even work and the UK’s real problem is its crappy public health system and substandard nursing homes.

I felt the same damn way when I visited family during Christmas in Arkansas. It is amazing how normal things are, and the covid death rates are lower in AR than in IL. Coming back to Chicago seeing people wearing masks while walking around outside was comical.*

I am wearing a mask outside now because of the extreme cold lol

Fresh Feb 11, 2021 2:59 AM

Pretty back to normal here in Sydney, pubs, restaurants and public areas are getting crowded again.

No cases in the community for 24 days now. Still required to wear a mask on public transport which is pretty irritating given it's the height of summer, but people getting pretty lax about that.

Not many masks anywhere else.

Yuri Feb 11, 2021 10:37 AM

4.32 million people were vaccinated in Brazil, or 2.04% of total population. The main challenge is the lack of vaccines itself, as the country could manage to vaccinate 3 million people daily under normal circumstances.

235,000 people were killed by Covid in the country, and the daily death toll is once again above 1,000 for the past 21 days, the longest period since July.

nito Feb 11, 2021 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 9186546)
I feel much better being here after 3 months of winter lockdown in London where I was becoming homicidal (let alone suicidal). And Florida is doing significantly better than England in terms of Covid deaths. Lockdowns don’t even work and the UK’s real problem is its crappy public health system and substandard nursing homes.

The failures within the UK have little to do with the NHS or retirement homes, but piss poor decision making (the failure to close borders, sending infected hospital patients back into retirement homes, bodged track & trace, delayed and lax implementation of lockdowns, mask usage, etc…) and legacy issues such as unhealthy lifestyles.

Covid-19 doesn’t have legs, it needs people to proliferate. Flying across the Atlantic to socialise with strangers is not just irresponsible, it is flat out stupid. Florida has more sun and to-date it has a slightly lower death rate than the UK when accounting for population. However, the number of cases is not dropping anywhere near as fast as in the UK and the death rate in Florida has plateaued since mid-Jan. I suspect the divergence in trends could be partially explained by the differences in lockdowns.

If you’re lacking the mental strength to endure lockdown, perhaps you ought to be focused more on improving your fragile mental resilience rather than your quads or biceps.

Bhupinder Bhatti Feb 11, 2021 12:29 PM

The pandemic is having significant impacts on Surrey residents, businesses and the economy. GDP growth is a strong indicator of an economy’s continued growth. Disruptions in GDP growth rates can affect real estate markets. I am working in real estate market. Real Estate is badly affected by this pandemic.

jtown,man Feb 11, 2021 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nito (Post 9187698)
The failures within the UK have little to do with the NHS or retirement homes, but piss poor decision making (the failure to close borders, sending infected hospital patients back into retirement homes, bodged track & trace, delayed and lax implementation of lockdowns, mask usage, etc…) and legacy issues such as unhealthy lifestyles.

Covid-19 doesn’t have legs, it needs people to proliferate. Flying across the Atlantic to socialise with strangers is not just irresponsible, it is flat out stupid. Florida has more sun and to-date it has a slightly lower death rate than the UK when accounting for population. However, the number of cases is not dropping anywhere near as fast as in the UK and the death rate in Florida has plateaued since mid-Jan. I suspect the divergence in trends could be partially explained by the differences in lockdowns.

If you’re lacking the mental strength to endure lockdown, perhaps you ought to be focused more on improving your fragile mental resilience rather than your quads or biceps.

You're not a responsible person.

You are mentally weak!

Sorry, are we supposed to accept 1 year of lockdowns, if so, why?

I've been on a steel prison before, a boat for 8 months. I did just fine, it made sense.

These lockdowns don't.

pip Feb 11, 2021 6:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jtown,man (Post 9187391)
I felt the same damn way when I visited family during Christmas in Arkansas. It is amazing how normal things are, and the covid death rates are lower in AR than in IL. Coming back to Chicago seeing people wearing masks while walking around outside was comical.*

I am wearing a mask outside now because of the extreme cold lol

Deaths per million people as of yesterday
Arkansas 1714
Illinois 1726

The Chicago area got hit hard at the beginning of the pandemic and this was before it was known how to treat COVID-19. Also can you really compare largely rural Arkansas to Illinois with the compact city of Chicago making up 20% of the State's population and the Chicago area making up 60-70% of the state's population?

photoLith Feb 11, 2021 6:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nito (Post 9187698)
The failures within the UK have little to do with the NHS or retirement homes, but piss poor decision making (the failure to close borders, sending infected hospital patients back into retirement homes, bodged track & trace, delayed and lax implementation of lockdowns, mask usage, etc…) and legacy issues such as unhealthy lifestyles.

Covid-19 doesn’t have legs, it needs people to proliferate. Flying across the Atlantic to socialise with strangers is not just irresponsible, it is flat out stupid. Florida has more sun and to-date it has a slightly lower death rate than the UK when accounting for population. However, the number of cases is not dropping anywhere near as fast as in the UK and the death rate in Florida has plateaued since mid-Jan. I suspect the divergence in trends could be partially explained by the differences in lockdowns.

If you’re lacking the mental strength to endure lockdown, perhaps you ought to be focused more on improving your fragile mental resilience rather than your quads or biceps.

Take a chill pill man. I guess we’re just supposed to be confined to quarters forever until there is no rona anywhere; which ain’t ever going to happen.

If you’re so scared then you can stay in a closet for the rest of time I guess if it makes you feel better.

BG918 Feb 11, 2021 7:04 PM

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Originally Posted by photoLith (Post 9188134)
Take a chill pill man. I guess we’re just supposed to be confined to quarters forever until there is no rona anywhere; which ain’t ever going to happen.

If you’re so scared then you can stay in a closet for the rest of time I guess if it makes you feel better.

No kidding, I’m personally sick of the sanctimonious virtue signaling and shaming of anyone who doesn’t want to be confined to their house/apartment. Live your miserable life and let others enjoy theirs - if they want to go to a restaurant, work out in a gym, travel on a plane, etc they have that right.

(four 0 four) Feb 11, 2021 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BG918 (Post 9188144)
No kidding, I’m personally sick of the sanctimonious virtue signaling and shaming of anyone who doesn’t want to be confined to their house/apartment. Live your miserable life and let others enjoy theirs - if they want to go to a restaurant, work out in a gym, travel on a plane, etc they have that right.

I would imagine that the sanctimoniously virtuous are personally sick of the self-absorbed, entitled attitudes of those crowded into restaurants, gyms and planes.

jtown,man Feb 11, 2021 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pip (Post 9188096)
Deaths per million people as of yesterday
Arkansas 1714
Illinois 1726

The Chicago area got hit hard at the beginning of the pandemic and this was before it was known how to treat COVID-19. Also can you really compare largely rural Arkansas to Illinois with the compact city of Chicago making up 20% of the State's population and the Chicago area making up 60-70% of the state's population?

Yes. Chicago is overwhelmingly using masks and their two shutdowns were way more strict than in Arkansas.

Using Media Logic, that means they were way safer and should have a lot less deaths per 100k.

mhays Feb 12, 2021 1:05 AM

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Originally Posted by (four 0 four) (Post 9188443)
I would imagine that the sanctimoniously virtuous are personally sick of the self-absorbed, entitled attitudes of those crowded into restaurants, gyms and planes.

The ones who insist on making the pandemic worse and longer-lasting? Yep.

Especially the ones who AT THE SAME TIME want to open things and only wear masks when forced.


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