Lots of gridlock expected tomorrow. :runaway:

DOT: NYC to Install Record Number of Protected Bike Lanes in 2015

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Here’s What the G Train Could Look Like If It Went Into Manhattan

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http://www.6sqft.com/heres-what-the-...nto-manhattan/

NJ Transit agrees to lead environmental review for Hudson tunnel project

http://www.northjersey.com/news/nj-t...ject-1.1423177

The Highline has Nothing on Jersey City’s New Pedestrian Bridge

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Beautiful idea, but god what a waste of money. If it could be built with sponsorships and donations like the High Line, I'm all for it... if it's public dollars, then they should be sunk into rail tunnels instead.

Unfortunately the pedestrian bridge idea would only appeal to the young and able-bodied, and even then it would be a miserable crossing in the winter.

agreed, use the money to build that to pay for a couple feet of boring a new 7 train or L train tunnel.

also, don't forget capt. sully needs elbow room to land those planes! :tup:

after 9yrs of annoyance - say goodbye to taxi tv - yay!

http://nypost.com/2015/10/12/taxi-tv...st-thankfully/

ny state and city come to a $26B funding agreement for mta. this includes extending 2nd ave subway phase II to harlem, a new metrocard fare system, yadda:

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/10/...o-mta-funding/

Phase II of the SAS (north into Harlem) actually has a lot of the tunnels already built from the aborted attempt back in the 70s. Pretty much just the stations and the branch down 125th need to be built.

Also the storage track, since the full SAS plan includes no railyard to store and maintain the trains, and there's really no place in Manhattan to put a railyard.

http://i47.tinypic.com/29zxvtd.jpg

looks good. About time the old metrocard was upgraded to Oyster standards.

Once the second avenue subway is complete, the city can begin to look at regional rail improvements. Such as a new loop line around the City.

^ unfortunately the second ave subway wont be complete in our lifetimes. thats only for phase II up to 125th st/harlem. there are two more much longer phases to go to bring it downtown to hanover square.

there are three loop possiblities. an inner loop, which is the g train idea you see on the above thread. a bit further out the 'triboro rx' plan serves as something of a loop. and finally, if the new lga airtrain is ever connected to jamaica station and the jfk airtrain, that would serve as something of an outer loop. all of these are doable while 2nd avenue construction plods along. in fact, i would guess one or more of them will be done before 2nd ave is ever completed. at least i would hope so!

i wondered about that - thx! it looks like only bits&pieces of cut&cover digging is needed, no tbm. thats good news for sure.
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Those 'bits' are mostly the station caverns though, which are the most complicated/expensive parts.

true, but at least it seems they don't need to get a tbm, which is also a huge expense.

it ain't cheap no matter how you look at it, but it looks like could be a lot worse if they had to start from scratch.

If that map is accurate (not sure it is), then the stations will be built with cut and cover entirely and not mined. That should make them somewhat cheaper, and I don't think you can call it a cavern if it's excavated from above.

They're at a shallower depth than the stations in Phase I, and in soft soil instead of rock, which changes the construction methods (125th/Park will be in rock, though).

Lastly, I don't know if the Harlem stations will have the same level of BS that the UES stations did. Wealth levels fall off dramatically north of 96th, and I'm not sure the residents in Harlem will be as lawsuit-happy as the Upper East Siders.

While Phase 2 is nice, having the SAS from 125th all the way down to 42nd seems absolutely imperative with East Midtown Rezoning looking like it's going to get approved by the City Council. The 4-5-6 line already carries more people on its own than any other subway system in the country by a fairly wide margin, and with millions of square feet of new office space likely to be built as a result of East Midtown Rezoning, I just can't see how this works.

^ i believe phase III is to take it 6 stations south from 63rd st to houston street, so even better.

then the final phase IV goes 4 more stations south to the hanover square finish line.

of course, even after that the northern end should be extended west crosstown along 125th. the growth in the city and manhattan will likely be stunning by that far flung time, so no doubt it will be sorely needed.

Yes, but that is a pipedream at this point. Nobody is even talking about it realistically. It's FAR more expensive than Phase II.

All true, but Phase I is 2 miles long, and will have taken 10 years to finish when it's all said and done. Phase 3 is double that, and even though Phase 2 is mostly cut and cover, the MTA won't start construction for a few years, so Phase 2 is probably another 7-10 years away from being done, and then after that the MTA can start Phase 3. So realistically, early 2020's for Phase 2 opening, and another 10-15 years for Phase 3.

All the while, London's Crossrail is 73 miles, for $20B, all done in 12 years of construction. It's not a comment against you, but I would honestly have preferred some serious effort to reign in costs before the MTA take on any more major projects.