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^^^ “The Limits of Sprawl”
Would make to be a stunning urban documentary. Or melodrama. |
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Carlsbad (north county SD) to Irvine (OC) is a 55 minute drive right now. Perris (new sprawly-ville) to Irvine (OC), 55 minute drive. Quote:
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New York: 8,936.0 sq. miles Atlanta: 6,851.4 sq. miles Chicago: 6,326.7 sq. miles Los Angeles: 5,907.8 sq. miles Philadelphia: 5,131.7 sq. miles Boston: 4,852.2 sq. miles Dallas: 4,607.9 sq. miles Houston: 4,299.4 sq. miles Detroit: 3,463.2 sq. miles Washington: 3,423.3 sq. miles and if you wanna combine the LA UA with the Riverside UA of 545.0 sq. miles (as californians typically insist), then you get a total land area of 6,452.8 sq. miles, putting LA/Riverside just ahead of chicagoland. |
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Metro LA is dense. Fast forward 50 years from now and Houston and DFW will fill in, not to LA type density but maybe closer to SD density.
The densest metro in the US in 2010. LA UA population density: 6,174 people per square mile NY: 5,318 SD: 4,037 Chicago: 3,524 Houston: 2,978 DFW: 2,878 |
Counterpoint: a metro area will eventually hit a limit on geographic size, but it will spawn new edge cities that feed off the region’s population. It will grow leapfrog style.
This is because some economic activities like logistics would have a different definition of what’s “close by” versus an office commuter. Also some might want to still be close enough to do a one-off meeting or a fun day trip even if they aren’t near enough to come in daily. Plus the mere presence of people creates jobs on the edge and people who do those jobs aren’t reliant on going into the urban core. As it is now, in DFW the far north suburbs are actually more oriented around the Plano-Frisco corridor and have less to do with the CBD. Likewise I’m sure that Riverside-San Bernardino are the true separate metro the census bureau recognizes them to be, though I’ve never visited these places. |
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"Fastest growing places (min. 25k) in California, 2000-2020:
1. Beaumont (366%) 2. Lincoln (344%) 3. Vineyard CDP (335%) 4. Elk Grove (194%) 5. El Dorado Hills CDP (181%) Reverse: 1. Huntington Park (-11%) 2. Maywood (-10%) 3. Bell Gardens (-10%) 4. Bell (-8%) 5. Santa Ana (-8%)" @SidKhurana3607 |
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And while both do have the ocean and mountain ranges on either side, the Santa Cruz mountains take up a huge amount of space in the Peninsula, whereas in LA it's flat and sandy along the entire coastline, aside from a small area around Rancho Palos Verdes. So LA can sprawl from mountain literally up to the beach, whereas the Bay cannot. And then in the East Bay, there's the Diablo mountains. The Santa Cruz and Diablo range meet in Morgan Hill/Gilroy, and along with the Bay, basically allows for development to only occur in an area that resembles a claw shape. If you go for hikes along these ridges, you'll see that along with the Marin Headlands, part of the Norther Coast range, the ridgeline basically forms a ring around the Bay. |
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My county is the most affordable in the entire state! |
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The LA basin has more alternate freeways and surface streets. Lakewood-Rosemead Blvd. can be a great alternate if there's an accident on the 605 or 710; Venice Blvd. can be a great alternate to the 10; Sepulveda or La Cienega to Slauson or La Tijera can be a good alternate to LAX... etc. |
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