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ethereal_reality Apr 13, 2012 9:38 PM

I wasn't aware Steve Hodel had a second 'Avenger' book out. I actually thought he had some interesting ideas in his 1st book....like the fertilizer & cement bags found at the murder site matching bags found at Hodel's Franklin Avenue home used during a renovation.
Also the fact that his father was an abortion doctor that had an office downtown not far from the Biltmore Hotel.


Recently I've come across a few Elizabeth Short photographs that I hadn't seen before.

The first two are snapshots from the summer of 1946...the first shows Ms. Short posing in the forecourt at Grauman's Chinese Theater.

http://imageshack.us/a/img857/3685/a...aesgctbdih.jpg
http://www.theblackdahliainhollywood.com/


...in the second she is posing with an unidentified man (notice she has the same outfit on so it's probably from the same day). It doesn't take a sleuth to realize that this unidentified man probably took the first photograph and a stranger took the photograph below.

http://imageshack.us/a/img812/277/aa...esrobertro.jpg
http://www.theblackdahliainhollywood.com/

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And then there's this photo of a young women who strongly resembles Elizabeth Short at a cast party (location unknown).

http://imageshack.us/a/img11/614/dah...lmurderdot.jpg
http://www.dialmurder.com/author/kenton-ridgeway/

Steve Hoffman Apr 13, 2012 9:53 PM

She really creeps me out. Too many pictures of her on the slab, I guess..

ethereal_reality Apr 13, 2012 10:03 PM

This has nothing to do with Elizabeth Short but it's interesting nevertheless.


http://imageshack.us/a/img809/471/19...vetowardro.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/



below: The same view today. A vast amount of foliage now covers the hillside.

http://imageshack.us/a/img98/8161/1928glendaleavet2.jpg
google street view



I 'google street viewed' my way up the hillside and found several of the homes that appear in the 1928 photograph.*

http://imageshack.us/a/img171/5537/1928glendalea2h.jpg
google street view

http://imageshack.us/a/img845/471/19...vetowardro.jpg

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*postscript: I've had this post ready for quite some time. After posting it today, I thought it might also be fun to find that bright white 'crenellated' building that appears down the street in the 1928 photograph. Long story short....I can't find the same intersection again and I'm beginning to think I might have gotten this it all wrong. Is it possible I have the wrong intersection and those aren't the same houses in the 1928 photo?

This has been bugging me all afternoon.

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Moxie Apr 13, 2012 11:52 PM

:previous:

I did a little looking and that is the intersection of Glendale and Fletcher (and Silver Ridge). I think the white building you were wondering about is at 2621 Glendale Blvd., though the dense foliage prevents seeing it in Google Street View. :)

ethereal_reality Apr 14, 2012 12:09 AM

Thx moxie...so I was correct..somehow.


Today on google maps it show Glendale Blvd. turning into Rowena Avenue up near Lakewood Ave. (red dot). Maybe when I first
researched the old photo (several months ago) google maps had Glendale Blvd. morphing into Rowena Ave. down at Fletcher.
It's a bit of a stretch I know.

http://imageshack.us/a/img32/9805/aaacorrecta1.jpg
google maps


..and you're right, 2621 does indeed look like the crenellated building seen in the 1928 photo.

http://imageshack.us/a/img51/1337/aaaccren.jpg


http://imageshack.us/a/img191/471/19...vetowardro.jpg
this photograph originally found on http://www.skyscrapercity.com/

You've helped to restore my sanity moxie.

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GaylordWilshire Apr 14, 2012 12:15 AM

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-g...2520PM.bmp.jpg

Here is the crenellated building on Glendale Blvd--it's a 2-bedroom, 1-bath house-- and the three houses on Ivan Hill....

Moxie Apr 14, 2012 12:21 AM

Quote:

Thx moxie...so I was correct..somehow.


Today on google maps it show Glendale Blvd. turning into Rowena Avenue up near Lakewood Ave. (red dot). Maybe when I first
researched the old photo (several months ago) google maps had Glendale Blvd. morphing into Rowena Ave. down at Fletcher.
It's a bit of a stretch I know.
You're welcome. Google often has things mislabeled, so I wouldn't worry about it. It's a great resource, but does have its flaws.

ethereal_reality Apr 14, 2012 2:08 AM

A kodachrome slide from the 1950s of a small boy with his grandmother (nanny?) in downtown Los Angeles.

http://imageshack.us/a/img843/1920/aaslide1950sk2.jpg
ebay


I had never heard of Gude's so I did a little research and found out it was located on w. 7th street.


http://imageshack.us/a/img804/3133/suscb.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...hit-m2196.html


http://imageshack.us/a/img252/6707/spcs.jpg
postcard


http://imageshack.us/a/img27/1207/48121845.jpg
ad

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ethereal_reality Apr 14, 2012 2:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5665839)
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-g...2520PM.bmp.jpg

Here is the crenellated building on Glendale Blvd--it's a 2-bedroom, 1-bath house-- and the three houses on Ivan Hill....


I had no idea they were all so close together. That 1928 photo is deceiving.

ethereal_reality Apr 14, 2012 3:04 AM

Here's another ebay find.


pan right---->

http://imageshack.us/a/img140/7564/a...ywoodvieww.jpg

I've been trying to figure out the photographer's vantage point in this photo....initially I thought the wide street was Sunset Boulevard
but Griffith Observatory (upper left hand corner) appears to be fairly close so maybe the wide street is Los Feliz Blvd.

Either way it's a great photograph!

Does anyone have the software to get rid of the 'watermark'? I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask. :)

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rcarlton Apr 14, 2012 1:21 PM

My weak attempt at Photoshop:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7137/6...e7bc37e0_b.jpg

rcarlton Apr 14, 2012 3:00 PM

Here is an example of new and old side by side:
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-43463?v=hr USC Digital Library

Photograph of Standard Service station being remodeled, showing both old and new, 1971. In the center foreground, a multi-lane paved road is pictured, behind which a dirt lot is undergoing construction. At left, a framework for a building is visible, with a truck and front-end loader visible in front. At right, a complete station is pictured, a sign on it reading "Standard". A sign out front displays the gasoline prices "29.9" and "33.9". The top ridge of palm trees and mountains can be seen in the background.

I really liked the gas prices!

rcarlton Apr 14, 2012 3:03 PM

I don't think I've seen this view before:
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-31362?v=hr USC Digital Library

Photograph of an exterior view of the old Los Angeles County Hall of Records as seen from the west portico of City Hall, October 1, 1972. The Hall of Records is at center and is a large, light-colored building that splits into two sections halfway up to the top. Large rectangular windows line the perimeter of the building, and decorative molding can be seen near the top of the structure. A large building with hundreds of small windows can be seen at left. In the foreground, the tiled ceiling of the portico can be seen, along with several supporting columns.

rcarlton Apr 14, 2012 3:06 PM

Odd:
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...2-82-1999?v=hr USC Digital Library

Photograph of a palm tree on the roof of a building, Los Angeles, ca.1999. A two or three story building stands behind a chain link fence that is topped with three rows of barbed wire. On top of the building a palm tree appears to be growing on the roof. There are several power lines nearby.

rcarlton Apr 14, 2012 3:08 PM

Neat looking building on right.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-44002?v=hr USC Digital Library

Photograph of buildings covered in grafitti on Sunset Boulevard, 1981. In the right foreground, a boarded-up brick building is covered in grafitti, some of which reads "13" and "Shorty". To the left, buildings that look like tract housing are also covered with writing. In the left distance, a skyscraper is under construction on Bunker Hill, while the County Health Department building is visible.

rcarlton Apr 14, 2012 3:10 PM

Another neat shot of the Hall of Records:
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-31361?v=hr USC Digital Records

Photograph of a birdseye view of the old Los Angeles Hall of Records, looking south along Broadway, October 1, 1972. The Hall of Records is in the foreground at left. It is an old Gothic building with rows of rectangular windows and small columns on its walls. A dark, pointed roof can be seen on top of the tower. Broadway can be seen at right and is bustling with automotive traffic. In the background, several large buildings can be seen, including two skyscrapers in the distance at right.

TMSteele Apr 14, 2012 6:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5666206)

I think that photograph was taken near the Hollywood Bowl looking east to capture the path of the went to be built Hollywood Freeway at the Highland and Cahuenga intersection. The curved street is Cahuenga running down to Hollywood on the right and the slight forked road at the far left is Cahuenga Terrace.

ethereal_reality Apr 14, 2012 9:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5666206)
My weak attempt at Photoshop:

Are you kidding? That looks GREAT rcarlton! Thanks so much.

ethereal_reality Apr 14, 2012 9:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMSteele (Post 5666435)
I think that photograph was taken near the Hollywood Bowl looking east to capture the path of the went to be built Hollywood Freeway at the Highland and Cahuenga intersection. The curved street is Cahuenga running down to Hollywood on the right and the slight forked road at the far left is Cahuenga Terrace.

I think you're correct TMSteele. I just didn't expect Cahuenga to look so domineering in relation to everything else in it's vicinity.
That's quite a swath (of course nowhere near the swath of the soon to be built Hollywood Freeway).

ethereal_reality Apr 14, 2012 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5666284)
Neat looking building on right.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-44002?v=hr USC Digital Library

Photograph of buildings covered in grafitti on Sunset Boulevard, 1981. In the left distance, a skyscraper is under construction on Bunker Hill, while the County Health Department building is visible.

I was hoping these building survived, especially the brick building on the right.
I 'street-viewed' my way to Sunset Blvd. and lined up the buildings in the distance to match the 1981 photograph.
Alas they're both gone replaced by a CVS and it's parking lot.

http://imageshack.us/a/img577/6560/aaagone.jpg
google street view


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