[QUOTE=KevinW;9432215]A little while back ER did a post on the Riviera tract. I must say, based on this photo:




It does look like the RCC Clubhouse, but ....


Here's the tract office far right in a detail from the orginal picture and the other "building" to the left edge.


https://i.imgur.com/Jj7sBhw.jpg
hdl.huntington.org


Here's a 1928 aerial with the tract office in the blue circle and the RCC Clubhouse in the green box. To get that view of the tract office in the original picture,
the photographer must have been south and a little west of it.


https://i.imgur.com/fq9gwil.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu


The RCC Clubhouse would not appear in the original picture to the left of the tract office.


I think it is an amalgam of two houses (red arrows) at the corner of Sunset and Napoli Drive (13701 Sunset Blvd and 1310 Napoli Dr).


https://i.imgur.com/z6y4J7l.jpg
Google Maps

It wouldn't be the LADWP building between the Richfield tower and the microwave tower. I'm pretty sure its the Unocal building, even though there's no hint of the angle in the middle. The super bright building to its right might be the top of the Edison building. (Two other companies in the energy biz.) I did work out that the building behind the "a" in "Vintage" is at 7th and Mill St.

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Interesting deduction, Mackerm....I'll have to look at it more closely.

. . but first

I just happened upon this slide of the Farmers Market dated 1970.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/hRfqUU.jpg
eBay


I've been trying to figure out in what direction we're looking and what part of the Farmers Market this is. Nothing looks familiar.

Of the moving cars I recognize the Ford Mustang in the lower left corner but I don't recognize the other two.







Here are some close-ups.

I'm especially intrigued by the 70s looking mens misc. store. It doesn't seem very farmers markety....."What's that dang mens store doing here?" :farmer:


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/7NBx5R.jpg
detail

Upon closer inspection I'm pretty sure the blue sedan turning left is European. (hmm. . .are those head-rests or speakers in the back window?)





https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/7zBp6h.jpg
detail

As you can see, the stand-alone building is headquarters to. . .um. . .something. :shrug:

Does anyone know what kind of car those two girls driving? (well actually, only one of the girls is driving)


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That's a Rover P6.

This one is a Ford Thunderbird, I think a '57.

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:previous:

Well that was fast! ..Thx Hoss :)



I believe we've talked about these do-hickys in the past. . .but


Bird House. .or. . Air Vent?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/GIC3Nw.jpg
detail

. . .or a combination of both?

It even has the dowels for the birds to stand on.

hmmm..If it's also a vent you might end up with asphyxiated birds.



There's also one at mens misc.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/mF0aaT.jpg

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Indeed. Doesn't look like the Farmer's Market atall atall (as Hobo Kelly used to say).

But I checked a 1970 phone directory, and here's the Men's Misc store at the correct address.

https://i.postimg.cc/YqCm60Mr/Mens.jpg

So I too am puzzled about what part of the Farmer's Market we're looking at. :shrug:

Gonna go with M.C. Escher.

RPPC Treasure Trove
 

A few weeks ago I posted a RPPC labled Moneta, Cal 1907 from eBay. I just discovered that the seller, collector-ca, has sold and is currently selling hundreds of early 20th century images from California and other western states. Many are from the L.A. area.
They as described as being from the Ron Lerch collection. Apparently Mr. Lerch was a noted collector of western historical items who passed away a few years ago.

A few interesting samples:

https://i.imgur.com/9NU3DsV.png?1
RPPC ~ Dick Ferris' Balloon "American," LOS ANGELES, CAL. c.1909 ~ Real Photo
https://www.ebay.com/itm/13391094737...gAAOSwU-xhcgMW



The Pike

https://i.imgur.com/EwHaNxw.png?1
Hoffman RPPC ~ The Pike, LONG BEACH, CALIF. ~ Los Angeles County, California
https://www.ebay.com/itm/13391093371...8AAOSwDqphcaw4



Inglewood

https://i.imgur.com/TfOQI6d.png?1 Look how wide all the streets are here!
RPPC ~ Market Street, INGLEWOOD, CAL. ~ Los Angeles County ~ REAL PHOTO
https://www.ebay.com/itm/13390999204...AAAOSwiqRhcLDT


Watts

https://i.imgur.com/KuQSfCi.png?1
RPPC ~ Main Street Looking West, WATTS (Los Angeles), CAL. ~ REAL PHOTO
https://www.ebay.com/itm/13390998945...cAAOSwLwNhcKJf



Something a bit more bucolic - Glendora

https://i.imgur.com/QnC56Zp.png?1
RPPC ~ Glendora Livery Stable, GLENDORA, CAL. ~ Los Angeles County, California
https://www.ebay.com/itm/13390998602...0AAOSwX9NhcJGc

Yes, it is Unocal. The fairly tall building in the foreground just to the left of Richfield is probably the 250', 20 floor United Ca. Bank building on Spring St, one of the first built after the height limit was lifted. Two others visible left of Richfield are the Tishman office building, also 250' and the slightly shorter Sinclair Oil building just across the Harbor Freeway. If this pic was taken after 1964/65 you would also see the Occidental Insurance building with a fancy restsurant on top, 452', 32 floors, a bit to the left out of the picture. Still there of course, but with a USC sign and no restaurant. By 1967/68, One Wilshire (30 floors), Union Bank (42 floors), City National (26), and Crocker Citizens tower (43 floors) would have been added, and Richfield would have still been there.

6333 W. 3rd is the North-East corner of the original Farmer's Market plot.

[update: Its been pointed out that the entire Farmer's Market plot buildings share the same address. Thanks Lwize.]

Wonderful pictures, Bristolian!

Here's the "now" (well, 2011: there's a building on the parking lot now; plus they've realigned the street) of the Pike picture:

https://i.postimg.cc/jqpShy0M/Seaside.jpg
gsv

A Couple More for the Morning
 

Beacon Street, San Pedro

https://i.imgur.com/UktxAWF.png?1
RPPC ~ Down Beacon Street, SAN PEDRO, CAL. ~ Los Angeles County, California
https://www.ebay.com/itm/13391094359...0AAOSwS9phcfcm



https://i.imgur.com/OfqM0p8.png?1
RPPC ~ Beacon Street c.1907, SAN PEDRO, CAL. ~ Los Angeles County, California

From Googly maps, all the farmer's market buildings share the 6333 W 3rd address.

I think this is roughly the same view nowadays.


https://i.imgur.com/b6f997k.jpg
GSV


The arrow on this 1968 aerial shows the direction towards Fairfax, the photographer was facing.

You can see the two standalone structures in the picture that housed "mens misc." and a ticket agency circled.


https://i.imgur.com/ZePr0gm.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

They're gone from aerials after 2000.

Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone might be able to assist me finding record (an address, if possible) of a pool hall on Heliotrope called the Crooked Cue? Was apparently defunct at some point before 1982 and turned into a rehearsal studio.

I've not been able to find any record of it, though I did find a Blevins Billiards at 665 Heliotrope in 1973 (which might be correct) and a Crooked Stick Pool Hall all the way over on 4807 Central Ave, which I don't think is the right one.

Apparently the phone number for the address was 662-6982, active well into 1985. I'm fairly sure it was just off Melrose Avenue.

Any help would be much appreciated!

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Bristolian, thanks so much for posting the wonderful rppcs! I spent way too much time looking at them. :)
I especially liked the balloon photograph and the Glendora Livery Stable photograph.





re: Farmers Market Ebay slide


Much appreciated Handsome Stranger and CBD.




Let's compare.

Then. . .
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/h1vGhG.jpg
Originally posted by Noir Noir.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/S3KZQQ.jpg

Thanks for pinpointing the view in the vintage eBay slide, Noir Noir.



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https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds

Maynard L. Parker was one of the great chroniclers of So Cal mid-century architecture and interior design....several of his images out of the Huntington Library collection have been posted here, I searched and could not find these....undated but judging by the automobiles and furnishings I would guess about 1940....no address provided but I am fairly certain we are looking at 1634 18th St. in Santa Monica, see below....




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds




I came up with a 1963 trademark registration that showed the 18th St. address....here's a city of Santa Monica permit from the same year.....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...370&fit=bounds





A list of dba's from 1943 indicates the company was a purveyor of gentlemen's grooming products under the name Windsor House, Ltd.....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds




.....their primary line was marketed as King's Men....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds




1940's....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds




1960's....Oh dear, if only the Baxters knew....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds

Inglewood 1908
 

Another image from the Ron Lerch collection being sold on eBay.
Is this what would become Market Street with the dual tracks?

https://i.imgur.com/r6kodYE.jpg?1
https://www.ebay.com/itm/13390999180...p2047675.l2557


Reverse Side

https://i.imgur.com/NhrI8Ng.jpg?1

The Baxters may not have known, but I'm sure Hazel Burke did!

I drove by the former location of Brotherton's Farm House in Pasadena last weekend and it kindled my dim (but fond) memories of the place. It was such a great time machine place and it inspired my young imagination.

Brotherton's opened in 1937 at 2239 E. Colorado Blvd. The site is now a mini-mall. Their great-grandsons have opened a restaurant in Hermosa Beach called Baran's 2239 using that old address. https://www.latimes.com/food/dailydi...nap-story.html
https://southbay.goldenstate.is/family-style-4/

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...602bd3e1_z.jpg
(Highland Park News Herald and Journal 11.24.63)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0b9e5f32_z.jpg(Roger Martin/Facebook)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...558d8b1d_b.jpg
(You know You Are From Old School Pasadena When............./Facebook)

That may have gone over a lot of heads here, but I love it.

Mr. B! Mr. B!

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I believe so. Photo looks north on Market St., poles for trolley wire curve in the distance to follow Florence Ave. northeast. This rail line originally was the L.A. & Redondo Inglewood Division, later became LARy's 5 Line (Eagle Rock - Hawthorne).

1941 Los Angeles street scenes
 

https://youtu.be/OiShtKv43hg

Here's 10 Min. of Los Angeles/Hollywood streets. Some sharped eyed people have nailed this as 1941 but the title says 1930s which appears to be a bit off.

Movie signs etc., denote this as 1941 era. So its just before entry into WW II.

In the 1940's and 1950's my stepfather's bathroom was loaded with King's Men bottles.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/T7M5nt.jpg
newspapers.com





https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/e1jipf.jpg
flickr




The two great grandchildren are the two circled below. (they don't call me Sherlock for nothin') ........................

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/SYC6CY.jpg
snix

There's a current picture of them in an article about their new restaurant at OUTLOOK.

At least I think it's them.
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I love the niches displaying the company's products.

riichkay, I don't want you to think we're ignoring your excellent post. We saw (and if I remember correctly, discussed) the photograph a few years ago on NLA.

But you know what: I haven't been able to locate the older post(s) so it's good you posted the photographs again. :)



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No problem e_r....as mentioned I ran a search, found quite a few of the Maynard Parker photos but not the subject building...but I have no doubt your recollection is correct...

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Original slide: car show on the front lawn of the old Ambassador Hotel, 1970.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/IXcwnH.jpg
eBay

Not only do we get a glimpse of the Wilshire Brown Derby we can also see The Bounty in the Gaylord Apartment Building.
And as most everyone here knows, The Bounty is still in business! ...Go Here to see how it looks today. (the same; except for a tree blocking the view)


Stay with me here folks. ...There's going to be a mystery location at the end of my post.


Well one thing led to another & I happened upon The Bounty in the opening credits of an episode of The Fugitive, (1963-1967).


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/Hda8PH.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/dRH1JA.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/ML6UwU.jpg
oldshowbiz at tumgir




The Fugitive television series was produced by Crown International Pictures Corporation.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/4jZIZh.jpg

I was wrong. ..See Martin's follow-up post Here.



And, finally, here is the mystery location...:fireworks:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/4TXIYk.jpg
oldshowbiz at Tumgir

I had no idea Crown International Pictures was located on Wilshire Blvd.,. .not only that. . .the building doesn't look familiar to me at all.

So is 'oldshowbiz' correct? Was Crown International Picture Corps. located on Wilshire Blvd?.....If so, where :shrug:


Color me baffled.
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Crown International Pictures was located at 8701 Wilshire Boulevard.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...1Wilshire1.jpg
GSV

I see, it's a couple blocks east of Robertson Blvd. Who knew?

:previous:
This doesn't sound right to me...am I wrong?

Production
Executive producer-Quinn Martin
Producers-Alan Armer (1963–1966)
Wilton Schiller (1966–1967)
Production companies: Quinn Martin Productions
United Artists Television
Distributor: ABC Films

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In case someone hasn't noticed this at the top of the page, and also because I double posted, heh!:

Notice: A necessary upgrade to the SkyscraperPage server configuration may mean the website is inaccessible for you at some point this week. Thank you for your patience.

Another RPPC from the Ron Lerch collection on eBay. Unless there's a backstory, a small plane crashing in the ocean is hardly noirish but as close as it gets in this collection.

https://i.imgur.com/A27m4Yg.jpg?1

Earl Rogers and his wrecked aeroplane in which he was killed. Ocean at Long Beach. 1912

https://i.imgur.com/gTAoY96.jpg?1
https://www.ebay.com/itm/13390900196...p2047675.l2557

While 8701 Wilshire matches the posted image, CIP (and its logo) was also located at 292 S. La Cienega Blvd. (See address toward bottom of poster.)

https://d2ob2czwp435fn.cloudfront.ne...b246f13f8f.jpghttps://d2ob2czwp435fn.cloudfront.ne...b246f13f8f.jpg







https://img.yumpu.com/31909647/1/500...-may161977.jpg

https://img.yumpu.com/31909647/1/500...-may161977.jpg

:previous: You're right, Martin...Thanks for the correction.

I don't believe Crown International produced any television productions.



In a nutshell.

Crown International Pictures.

Founded 1959
Founder Newton P. Jacobs
Defunct 1992
Fate Chapter 11 Bankruptcy


You can find a complete list of Crown International movies Here

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Halloween tourist spots in Los Angeles

Spadena House or Witch House
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...859ef7e7_b.jpgBeverly Hills Witch House on Halloween 2021 by Kelvin Cheng, on Flickr

American Horror Story House
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...9e59c8de_b.jpgAmerican Horror Story House on Halloween 2021 by Kelvin Cheng, on Flickr

Michael Jackon's Thriller House
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...bab91f14_b.jpgMichael Jackson Thriller House on Halloween 2021 by Kelvin Cheng, on Flickr

Carroll Avenue Historic District - Los Angeles version of 'Painted Ladies'
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...f41b50a3_b.jpgHaskins House by Kelvin Cheng, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e55a8695_b.jpgInnes House by Kelvin Cheng, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...79aa43a6_b.jpgSessions House by Kelvin Cheng, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...daea9b9e_b.jpgHelm House by Kelvin Cheng, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a7d47702_b.jpg1316 Carroll Ave by Kelvin Cheng, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3fe11f46_b.jpgHelm House by Kelvin Cheng, on Flickr

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Excellent photographs, kelbeem. :)

The Crooked Cue billiards parlor was located within the Crenshaw Bowl at 2825 Crenshaw Blvd. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...280b9bda_z.jpg

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mystery fire.


"1973 Press Photo: Los Angeles, California Apartment Building Swept by Fire."

Does anyone recognize this apartment building?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/3jJQMY.jpg
eBay

Luckily, there is a sign in front of the building.


This sign.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/zJQyg1.jpg

I believe the large word is "Apartment" but the words above it are too fuzzy (and small) to read.



The newspaper clipping on the back isn't any help.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/aSlvJd.jpg

I don't know why 1967 was written in ink when the actual fire was in 1973.

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Currently on eBay

mystery train wreck.

"Original Photograph City Of Los Angeles TRAIN WRECK Engine Scene Of Accident."


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Gz40L8.jpg

Of course the crash could have happened anywhere along the route but the landscape sure looks like California.




I'm especially intrigue by this part of the wreck.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/VJH86Z.jpg

It appears to be the engine of the 'City of Los Angeles' but it's facing the wrong way.






And finally, here's a closer look at the Bonds and Stamps rail car.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/RvcK0N.jpg

I wonder how soon after the crash the photograph was taken.



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UP City of Los Angeles Wreck
 

Cliff's Notes: The wreck occurred on November 12, 1951 at a siding called Wyutah which, as you might surmise, was near the Utah-Wyoming border. One passenger train traveling at 77 mph rear-ended another traveling at 2 mph, killing 11 pasengers and six crew members. The accident occurred in blizzard conditions.

Much more detail and discussion and a link to the full ICC accident report can be found in the Trains Magazine comments thread here: http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/p/18356/265669.aspx

That was the Stratford Apartments, 1735 W 6th St, NEC of Burlington-- built 1909, burned 1973, remains of it demolished early '74.

It appears (somewhere) in this USCDL panorama:

https://i.postimg.cc/HxhsX8nK/stratf...94x275-bmp.jpg


Coverage in The New York Times:

https://i.postimg.cc/jjHmNDqX/stratf...T-861x1616.png

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It seems a lot of apartments in that area were/are firetraps.

My partner used to work in an office building near Wilshire and Vermont, and looking south/southeast from the upper floors, he said it was common to see a building on fire with black smoke coming out of it, and then the sound of sirens and the rush of firemen to the site. Kinda sad...

Every house is its stories


158 S Harvard Blvd is in the news

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2021...-their-street/


https://i.postimg.cc/SsynL2hf/hoarde...03x602-bmp.jpg



And a few historic news items regarding the bungalow:

https://i.postimg.cc/P5P9x2vm/158har...86x461-bmp.jpg
LAT March 18, 1929


https://i.postimg.cc/50Nw4k6J/158shi...00x617-bmp.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/WpY73jGH/158shi...98x313-bmp.jpg
LAT Aug 12, 1931

24 dead. :(


The nytimes had this follow-up on Nov. 18, 1973.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/PtaT6H.jpg
nytimes

Altenburg confessed 5 days later.


There is a detailed description of the fire at fireengineering

Thx GW.
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Utah-Wyoming border! ..I was way off the mark on this one. :no:


Here's an accident closer to home.

Coldwater Canyon Avenue near Saticoy in North Hollywood(?)....December 4, 1963.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/7EO44d.jpg
lapl

"Mrs. Lena De Prisco, 44, 7931 Emelita St., North Hollywood, owes her life today to an unknown hero who pulled her from auto as Southern Pacific freight train bore down on machine stalled on tracks.
Frightened near-victim told Traffic Officer W. E. Meyer she "froze" on rail crossing at Coldwater Canyon Avenue near Saticoy Avenue.

Lena was a lucky lady.
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Sadly, this accident at Soto Street and Washington Boulevard was more tragic...January 23, 1956


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/oepL5h.jpg
lapl


Rescue operations under glare of huge searchlights continue throughout night in wake of Southern California's biggest railroad disaster which killed 29 persons and injured 120 passengers
after two car San Diego commuter rolled on its side while rounding a curve at Soto Street and Washington Boulevard in Los Angeles.


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I remember watching the post-wreck coverage by Bill Welsh doing remote reporting on KTTV. A subsequent book published a few years ago about the type of equipment involved devoted an entire chapter to this incident.

IIRC, the engineer claimed during the resulting investigation that he "blacked out" before heading into that curve near Redondo Jct. and the two-car train actually speeded up rather than slowing down. The resultant derailment was particularly gruesome for some of the fatally injured passengers. The equipment itself was eventually repaired and banished to secondary runs in Kansas and Oklahoma (I think). Bad scene all around.

Commuter Crash
 

As a 13 year old I remember live coverage of the crash on Channel 5. When I was in the Navy I rode those San Diegans from L.A. to S.D. and did not like the feeling, I guess from seeing that wreck. I rode the regular train and did not have that feeling..

Perhaps that's because the regular train was much heavier than the lightweight, transit-like San Diegan. ..(an uneducated guess)



Not to be overly morbid but here's a bit more on the 1956 accident.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/aTqOxf.jpg
sandiegouniontribune





And a 1:00 minute video. (WARNING: Dead bodies)

• Video Link

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I happened upon this extremely rare photograph of the Central Hotel a couple of days ago on eBay. ..(it's still listed!)


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/71PQ6V.jpg




And the back.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/6DHSNt.jpg

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .:previous:...Written in pencil: ..Burnt in Nov. 1900.

The street address is frustratingly missing.







. . .perhaps a misguided attempted to enlarge the photograph.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/wD07qR.jpg

Wow. .that's big! :stunned:



If there's a back door, it looks like the hotel kitchen is receiving a large sack of potatoes (or onions).
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