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nomarandlee Oct 4, 2019 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OrdoSeclorum (Post 8706968)
I don't know. I was just in several Charles De Gaulle terminals this week--several only a few years old--and the most important thing is how they flow and work logisitically. The Calatrava design looked impressive, but I don't know if it would work as well. Can you get from gate to gate easily? Can you move freely while still not feeling like you're sitting in a cavern? Can you see where you need to go without having to look at signs constantly and still not feel like you are sitting in a cavern.

Well, some of CDG's terminals I've seen are pretty gorgeous it indeed didn't seem to flow well. With some weird small corridors and wayfinding.

From the looks of it, it looks like the Gang proposal would be inherently open and intuitive to navigate. Would I have liked to see Foster's proposal given a shot? Sure, but the fact is no matter what proposal was chosen it will look much more "mall-like" in appearance because that is just the general trend that all major international airports, in order to maximize revenue, are veering towards that I can think of. Including the Foster proposal.

aquablue Oct 5, 2019 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by OrdoSeclorum (Post 8706968)
I don't know. I was just in several Charles De Gaulle terminals this week--several only a few years old--and the most important thing is how they flow and work logisitically. The Calatrava design looked impressive, but I don't know if it would work as well. Can you get from gate to gate easily? Can you move freely while still not feeling like you're sitting in a cavern? Can you see where you need to go without having to look at signs constantly and still not feel like you are sitting in a cavern.

The renders look terrible. All woodsy crap. Yuck, looks like somebody is trying to go all environmental and it looks hokey. The new Beijing airport is how you design a modern terminal, oh and that Turkish airport. Clean and modern. No stupid wooden floors or church-like cielings. It looks like something out of the 90s

nomarandlee Oct 5, 2019 2:08 AM

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Originally Posted by aquablue (Post 8707646)
The renders look terrible. All woodsy crap. Yuck, looks like somebody is trying to go all environmental and it looks hokey. The new Beijing airport is how you design a modern terminal, oh and that Turkish airport. Clean and modern. No stupid wooden floors or church-like cielings. It looks like something out of the 90s

I kind of disagree. White on white with floors to ceilings with an institutional feel is what is becoming common and undistinctive among mega-airports.
Something that frankly Fosters plan would have patterned after as well, although brilliantly.

From photos at least photos of Instanbuls airport I don't find overly impressive. Beijing's does look impressive but I bet in both cases far more than passenger taxes are fitting the bill and state subsidies have been infused heavily into both (along with cheaper labor/construction).

At least Gangs proposal with the more lateral wood/glass paneling would promise to be somewhat distinct and offer a different character than what in 30 years will be an era of ho-hum mega-architecture. Maybe it will fall to impress or look 2nd rate in the end but at least it will promise to aim for something a bit unique.

N830MH Oct 15, 2019 2:47 AM

Guys,

She at it again! She got arrested again by last Friday night. Marilyn Hartman as a serial stowaway. She's trying to sneak past at security checkpoint without a ticket or ID. She was not supposed to be there. They told her not to go to airports anymore. She was banned O'Hare, Midway, Greyhound bus and Amtrak, as well.

https://wgntv.com/2019/10/12/serial-...t-ohare-again/

She didn't listens to the judges, lawyers, and psychiatrist, as well. She supposed to stays at mental health facility, but she cannot leaves. She need a treatment. Get some help! She must taken her medication. She can not be off her ankle monitoring. They will put back on her electronic monitoring.

N830MH Oct 22, 2019 11:35 PM

Sorry Holidays travelers, Reopening of O'Hare "people mover" delayed again, to early 2020.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/inves...s-story_______

Dracmus Oct 24, 2019 12:19 PM

Ada Quonsett is at it again huh? To bad Trans Global Airlines went under...


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Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 8717177)
Guys,

She at it again! She got arrested again by last Friday night. Marilyn Hartman as a serial stowaway. She's trying to sneak past at security checkpoint without a ticket or ID. She was not supposed to be there. They told her not to go to airports anymore. She was banned O'Hare, Midway, Greyhound bus and Amtrak, as well.

https://wgntv.com/2019/10/12/serial-...t-ohare-again/

She didn't listens to the judges, lawyers, and psychiatrist, as well. She supposed to stays at mental health facility, but she cannot leaves. She need a treatment. Get some help! She must taken her medication. She can not be off her ankle monitoring. They will put back on her electronic monitoring.


F1 Tommy Oct 30, 2019 9:47 PM

Good coverage of the United Media days event in Chicago. Info on the newer equipment finally coming to ORD along with route and company information.


https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/what...rst-media-day/

kbud Nov 7, 2019 8:49 AM

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Originally Posted by F1 Tommy (Post 8734248)
Good coverage of the United Media days event in Chicago. Info on the newer equipment finally coming to ORD along with route and company information.


https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/what...rst-media-day/

One small thing I learned was that they reported UA was bringing the 787 to ORD for routes to Europe and Asia. I've read the Europe news, but Asia was new to me. I'm assuming it will be in place of the 777 and not new routes? I know some new Asia carriers have entered ORD the last few years, but it wasn't too long ago that UA flew 744s from ORD to NRT, HKG, PVG and PEK.

Centropolis Nov 11, 2019 9:21 PM

looks like o'hare is having a good day

Centropolis Nov 11, 2019 9:22 PM

https://abc7chicago.com/plane-slides...storm/5689573/

CHICAGO (WLS) -- A plane slid off a runway as it was landing at O'Hare Airport as snow fell on the Chicago area Monday morning.

A Chicago Aviation spokesperson said the incident occurred at about 7:45 a.m. as American Eagle flight 4125 from Greensboro, North Carolina was landing at O'Hare.

According to an American Airlines spokesperson, "After landing, American Eagle flight 4125, operated by Envoy Air, slid off the runway due to icy conditions at Chicago O'Hare. No injuries were reported. All 38 passengers and three crew members were removed from the aircraft and are now safely back in the terminal."




https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_t...pg&name=medium

Baronvonellis Nov 12, 2019 8:09 PM

Wow, I can't believe it's taken years to extend the people mover a third of a mile. This is madness, what have they been doing all this time? When are they ever going to finish it?

N830MH Nov 13, 2019 6:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Baronvonellis (Post 8746467)
Wow, I can't believe it's taken years to extend the people mover a third of a mile. This is madness, what have they been doing all this time? When are they ever going to finish it?

Patience! They still have to be done soon. Right now, they haven't find a specific date yet. So please be patients. Give it a time! Give it chance!

kbud Nov 13, 2019 6:02 PM

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Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 8746970)
Patience! They still have to be done soon. Right now, they haven't find a specific date yet. So please be patients. Give it a time! Give it chance!

Do you work for the contractor doing the work? This project is an embarrassment to the city and airport. For the time and what they actually are doing it's insane. I rode on the bus system a week ago connecting from T5 to T3; what an awful experience, especially for any foreigners, elderly and children. This is probably the reason the new T2 won't initially have the underground train connecting the two new satellites to the main terminal. The project manager already said completing it by 2028 isn't possible.

On a serious note, can you imagine connecting from a flight at the end of the 2nd new satellite terminal and having to connect to B17? Not having a train will be a mistake.

takascar Nov 13, 2019 7:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kbud (Post 8747396)
Do you work for the contractor doing the work? This project is an embarrassment to the city and airport. For the time and what they actually are doing it's insane. I rode on the bus system a week ago connecting from T5 to T3; what an awful experience, especially for any foreigners, elderly and children. This is probably the reason the new T2 won't initially have the underground train connecting the two new satellites to the main terminal. The project manager already said completing it by 2028 isn't possible.

On a serious note, can you imagine connecting from a flight at the end of the 2nd new satellite terminal and having to connect to B17? Not having a train will be a mistake.

That's just as bad as gate B12 at MSP connecting to a G-gate!

Any news on construction? They "broke ground" on terminal 5 changes in March, I assumed they were waiting till the end of the summer season to take the end gate jet bridge (M21 I think) down.

I did see them digging up the tarmac at that end of the terminal to make more space, but so far, I haven't been able to see any work on the building itself.

N830MH Nov 14, 2019 6:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kbud (Post 8747396)
Do you work for the contractor doing the work? This project is an embarrassment to the city and airport. For the time and what they actually are doing it's insane. I rode on the bus system a week ago connecting from T5 to T3; what an awful experience, especially for any foreigners, elderly and children. This is probably the reason the new T2 won't initially have the underground train connecting the two new satellites to the main terminal. The project manager already said completing it by 2028 isn't possible.

On a serious note, can you imagine connecting from a flight at the end of the 2nd new satellite terminal and having to connect to B17? Not having a train will be a mistake.

No, sir! I don't work for contractor. Sorry! :(

kbud Nov 14, 2019 3:33 PM

B17 - could the footprint work for the A380
 
I know the A380 production is ending soon. But with Lufthansa having them in their fleet was there ever discussion or a plan to modify United T1 gate B17 to be A380 compatible? I know B16 is also a wide body gate, but the terminal 5 1-gate a380 gate space was creatively angled for the A380 to not jeopardize the use of the gates next to it. Maybe there just isn’t the footprint available. I was thinking of this as I read that Lufthansa flies the whale to BOS. I know it probably won’t happen now with the future of the A380.

F1 Tommy Dec 13, 2019 5:51 PM

Found some nice 2019 ORD photos on this Facebook page...


https://www.facebook.com/groups/698296610181764/

N830MH Dec 18, 2019 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by F1 Tommy (Post 8775127)
Found some nice 2019 ORD photos on this Facebook page...


https://www.facebook.com/pg/Scale-De...45511289030520

Please go on Chicago Aviation Fans Facebook group. Not on your Facebook page.

Here's a link:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/698296610181764/

You can join them.

Steely Dan Jan 14, 2020 6:30 PM

in a bit of a surprise move, midway is getting a new carrier with seasonal service to six new destinations.



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Allegiant adds 3 new cities in 44-route expansion

Allegiant Air announced 44 new nonstop routes – and three new cities – Tuesday in what the company is calling the largest single expansion in its history. All of the new routes are seasonal.

The new destinations – Boston, Chicago and Houston – represent the boldest move yet by Allegiant into the nation’s biggest markets that do not have a traditional beach or warm-weather draw

Allegiant will serve Chicago from the city’s Midway Airport (MDW). The airline’s first flights there begin May 14, when Allegiant launches the first of what will be six nonstop routes from the city.


Chicago Midway (MDW)

Allentown, Pennsylvania (ABE): Begins May 14

Asheville, North Carolina (AVL): Begins May 21

Des Moines, Iowa (DSM): Begins May 21

Destin/Fort Walton Beach, Florida (VPS): Begins June 5

Knoxville, Tennessee (TYS): Begins May 21

Savannah, Georgia (SAV): Begins May 21
source: https://thepointsguy.com/news/allegi...icago-houston/

MayorOfChicago Jan 14, 2020 7:34 PM

Any pictures or updates on Terminal 5 expansion?

N830MH Jan 14, 2020 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MayorOfChicago (Post 8799307)
Any pictures or updates on Terminal 5 expansion?

Not yet. They still working on it. Hopefully someone will post it soon.

SIGSEGV Jan 15, 2020 2:30 AM

I flew AKL to ORD on Friday. Terribly long flight, but the alternative would have been worse of course. That said, the ATS can't be done soon enough. Those shuttles are really awful with luggage.

MayorOfChicago Jan 15, 2020 3:43 PM

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Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 8799629)
Not yet. They still working on it. Hopefully someone will post it soon.

I remember they broke ground last March, and then in September there was an update article saying they were expected to begin construction on Terminal 5 soon, and I thought uh-oh, when is it actually going to get underway...

I know they opened the new police building yesterday, so hopefully with that out of the way they can tear down the old one and tear into the site.

emathias Jan 15, 2020 5:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SIGSEGV (Post 8799766)
I flew AKL to ORD on Friday. Terribly long flight, but the alternative would have been worse of course. That said, the ATS can't be done soon enough. Those shuttles are really awful with luggage.

How was that flight? I've wondered about it since it was announced, but you're the first person I've encountered who's taken it.

SIGSEGV Jan 16, 2020 3:15 AM

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Originally Posted by emathias (Post 8800314)
How was that flight? I've wondered about it since it was announced, but you're the first person I've encountered who's taken it.

Other than the length of the flight (which there is not much one can do about... it's not like stopping over somewhere would make it faster), I had a positive experience. Good movie choices and excellent service. They even gave me the fancy headphones because I was close to the bathroom.The food was ok (edible, nothing great), but the candy is delicious! The bathroom decoration was amusing.

The flight seemed pretty full (I didn't see any empty seats, but there may have been some) and everyone in my row was a Chicagoan.

F1 Tommy Jan 23, 2020 2:04 PM

Looks like O'Hare will remain the busiest airport for movements in the world for 2019. As of the end of November they were over 10,000 above 2018 stats. I think they will end the year at around 915,000 movements. The city should release December stats soon. For now ATL has the most passengers, but I think a city in China will pass them in the next few years. Number 1 in cargo traffic for many years to come will be MEM due to FedEx. Chicago is doing well in cargo traffic but UPS moved some of the mail sorting to other regional airports.

SIGSEGV Jan 23, 2020 3:32 PM

I bet when she Max is finally flying again (hopefully safely) O'Hare might pass Atlanta in pax as regional Jets are made larger.

F1 Tommy Jan 23, 2020 4:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SIGSEGV (Post 8809020)
I bet when she Max is finally flying again (hopefully safely) O'Hare might pass Atlanta in pax as regional Jets are made larger.

That won't happen anytime soon, and the Max will have nothing to do with it. Maybe after they build the new terminals it might push ORD closer to ATL. That will take atleast 8-10 years.

spyguy Jan 25, 2020 7:01 PM

https://ord21.com/newsroom/Pages/article.aspx?newsid=18

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O’HARE 21 PROGRAM REACHES CRITICAL MILESTONE WITH DESIGN TEAM FULLY IN PLACE

Date: 01/24/2020 | Source: Chicago Department of Aviation


CHICAGO – With the O’Hare 21 expansion and modernization program already well underway, the City of Chicago today announced a critical milestone, securing the services of its three key designers. The City’s contract with Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, LLP (SOM) to design two new satellite concourses immediately west of the terminal core has been finalized, while HNTB has been selected to serve as the lead civil engineer. SOM and HNTB join Studio ORD – the lead architect tasked with designing the new O’Hare Global Terminal – on the design team that will transform the airport.

“Having our three lead designers in place and working in parallel is a critical moment for the overall success of the O’Hare 21 program, and we’re moving forward in a spirit of cohesion and collaboration,” Chicago Department of Aviation Commissioner Jamie L. Rhee said. “With Studio ORD and SOM providing inspiration above ground and HNTB lending their considerable expertise below ground, we have assembled a team of unparalleled vision and talent, and every traveler who uses O’Hare will benefit. We are committed to continuing to work closely with our federal and airline partners to build a new O’Hare on schedule and on budget, all while maintaining the safe operations at the world’s busiest airfield. All three designers will contribute significantly to this goal through their designs and input to detailed implementation plans in conjunction with the broader O’Hare community.”

O’Hare 21 is the result of a landmark agreement between the City of Chicago and its airline partners, and it marks the largest expansion and first major capital improvements to O’Hare’s passenger terminals in over a quarter-century. The new Terminal Area Plan (TAP) will completely redevelop existing Terminal 2, add two new concourses, replace and expand aircraft gates, and set in motion a wide range of other improvements that will significantly enhance airline performance and the overall passenger experience.

“This is a significant milestone towards the realization of the City’s vision for an inspirational, accessible, and sustainable new O’Hare. Our team has been working closely with CDA to develop design principles that will allow each project on O’Hare’s campus to celebrate the spirit and distinctive character of Chicago. As the SOM team develops a concept that meets the unique needs of the satellite concourses, we look forward to collaborating with their team and the City of Chicago to create a seamless user experience across the satellites and the O’Hare Global Terminal,” said Jeanne Gang, lead designer for the O’Hare Global Terminal and founding partner of Studio Gang. Last year, the joint venture comprised of her firm Studio Gang, Solomon Cordwell Buenz (SCB), Corgan, Milhouse Engineering & Construction, Inc., and STLarchitects was selected to design the 2.2 million square foot terminal, as well as to set the tone and palette for the satellite concourses.

The project will be delivered in phases, with an expanded Terminal 5 representing the first major terminal upgrade at O’Hare. Construction of the satellite concourses and supporting infrastructure will follow, estimated to substantially begin in 2022. Once the satellites are online, construction of the O’Hare Global Terminal can begin, replacing Terminal 2. The program also includes enhancements to integrate Terminals 1 and 3 into the O’Hare Global Terminal to enable seamless passenger connections. O’Hare 21, the $8.5 billion project to modernize O’Hare’s terminals, follows the successful delivery of the O’Hare Modernization Program that transformed O’Hare’s runway system and reduced aircraft delays. O’Hare 21 is projected to directly create more than 60,000 jobs over the course of the program. The overall regional economic impact will be greater, with a growing O’Hare expected to contribute at least $50 billion to the region, and to enable at least 460,000 regional jobs in the next eight years.

“We are honored to join the City’s design team to move forward this exciting and transformative project,” Scott Duncan, SOM Design Partner, said. “O’Hare is not only one of the world’s busiest and most critical transportation hubs, but a critical part of Chicago’s economic and social infrastructure. We are thrilled to work in partnership with the CDA, Studio ORD and the rest of the O’Hare 21 program team to create a vibrant and sustainable airport that will enhance carrier operations and elevate the experience of tens of millions of travelers.”

The timely design and construction of the satellite concourses – valued at approximately $1.4 billon – are crucial to the program’s critical path and must be completed and in use before construction of the O’Hare Global Terminal can begin. When complete, the satellite concourses will provide opportunities for O’Hare’s airline partners and their networks to continue growing while a significant number of existing gates and facilities are closed for construction. The new facilities at O’Hare will result in greater connectivity and competitive pricing for travelers.

“As Chicago’s airline of choice, we congratulate SOM, HNTB, and our partners at the City of Chicago on another milestone in O’Hare’s transformation,” said Michael Minerva, American Airlines Vice President of Government and Airport Affairs. “Much like American, SOM has rich history and roots in Chicago, and we look forward to working with them – and all of the design teams – to create a worldclass customer experience at O’Hare Airport.”

“We congratulate SOM and HNTB on joining the O’Hare 21 team as we continue taking steps towards building a better O’Hare and improving the travel experience for the nearly 38 million United customers who transit our hometown hub every year,” Gavin Molloy, Vice President, Corporate Real Estate for United Airlines said.

Lead civil engineer HNTB will design the heavy infrastructure components of the program required to support the new terminal facilities, including the design of the central tunnel system that will convey utilities, baggage and passengers from the O’Hare Global Terminal to the satellite concourses. Additionally, HNTB will be tasked with the design of the taxiways and civil infrastructure between and around the proposed concourses, ensuring the existing facilities and the world’s busiest airfield operations are not impacted during the anticipated TAP construction.

Both SOM and HNTB – as well Studio ORD – were selected as the result of a competitive process, and have committed to comply with the City’s ambitious participation goals for this project. Design contracts also include a mentor/protégé program commitment.

Work to expand and revolutionize the traveler experience at O’Hare is already well underway, most notably at Terminal 5, where 10 new gates and space for 70% more passenger amenities, airline lounges, and concessions space are being constructed, and a new baggage handling system is being developed. Just last week, Mayor Lightfoot joined CDA and the Chicago Police Department to cut the ribbon on the new CPD O’Hare facility, which replaces the previous facility demolished to make way for the Terminal 5 expansion.

The three architecture and engineering teams will work alongside the project’s three Construction Managers At-Risk (CMARs] in propelling O’Hare 21 forward. The CMARs are responsible for representing the City’s best interests and ensuring these complex projects are completed on time, on budget, and with a commitment to diversity and local participation. Austin Power Partners (APP), Turner Paschen Aviation Partners (TPAP), and AECOM Hunt Clayco JV are the CMARs and they have been tasked with developing hiring plans to meet the project’s ambitious diversity and inclusivity goals. Just last week, CDA and the CMARs jointly hosted an Industry Day at UIC to spread the word about upcoming opportunities at O’Hare.

O’Hare 21’s major terminal projects are set to grow O’Hare’s overall terminal square footage by more than 60%, from 5.5 to 8.9 million square feet, and increase aircraft gate frontage by 25%. More aircraft gate capacity will enable O’Hare and its airline partners to reduce delays by improving access to gates for arriving aircraft, and it will also enable O’Hare to handle a wider range of aircraft more efficiently, including larger aircraft that allows more passengers served. As O’Hare adds gates and improves its terminals, passenger volumes are expected to keep pace with a strong demand for air travel worldwide, which, according to aviation experts, will double to 14 billion air travelers in the next decade.

Chicagoguy Jan 31, 2020 1:32 AM

Emirates Mulls Athens To Chicago Fifth Freedom Route
 
"Middle East giant Emirates could be on the verge of adding more fifth freedom flights to North America. Hot on the heels of its Barcelona-Mexico City route launch, the carrier is reportedly considering adding flights to Chicago from Athens."

https://simpleflying.com/emirates-athens-to-chicago/

F1 Tommy Feb 6, 2020 12:20 AM

SAS A350 flights have started to ORD, first city served by the SAS A350.

Cathey Pacific will start A350-1000 service to ORD this summer replacing 777-300 type aircraft.

F1 Tommy Mar 5, 2020 11:00 PM

Added Turkish Airways flights this summer. 3 7879 flights a week. This should really fill up T5 with the added Norwegian flights and El Al evening flights that depart between 11pm and midnight.

Istanbul – Chicago O’Hare eff 07MAY20 Increase from 7 to 10 weekly, new flight operated by 787-9
TK005 IST1410 – 1735ORD 77W D
TK185 IST1630 – 1955ORD 789 146

TK006 ORD2130 – 1615+1IST 77W D
TK186 ORD2305 – 1750+1IST 789 146

N830MH Mar 8, 2020 6:28 AM

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Originally Posted by F1 Tommy (Post 8852228)
Added Turkish Airways flights this summer. 3 7879 flights a week. This should really fill up T5 with the added Norwegian flights and El Al evening flights that depart between 11pm and midnight.

Istanbul – Chicago O’Hare eff 07MAY20 Increase from 7 to 10 weekly, new flight operated by 787-9
TK005 IST1410 – 1735ORD 77W D
TK185 IST1630 – 1955ORD 789 146

TK006 ORD2130 – 1615+1IST 77W D
TK186 ORD2305 – 1750+1IST 789 146

Wait it minutes! Did El Al change the schedule? I thought they still leaves by early evening? Those passengers who doesn't like to leave from ORD by midnight. They will be very tired.

F1 Tommy Mar 8, 2020 9:50 PM

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Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 8854536)
Wait it minutes! Did El Al change the schedule? I thought they still leaves by early evening? Those passengers who doesn't like to leave from ORD by midnight. They will be very tired.

I heard early evening also but the company handling the flight said around 2300. Not sure if they know something or are wrong. I would prefer 1915!!

N830MH Mar 10, 2020 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by F1 Tommy (Post 8854889)
I heard early evening also but the company handling the flight said around 2300. Not sure if they know something or are wrong. I would prefer 1915!!

Unfortunately, LY inaugural flight has been postponed it. Due to corona virus. A new date is on June 28, 2020.

F1 Tommy Mar 12, 2020 3:01 PM

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Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 8857461)
Unfortunately, LY inaugural flight has been postponed it. Due to corona virus. A new date is on June 28, 2020.

What a mess. Have seen several upgrades and a few reroutes via England to Europe today. I wonder if Lufthansa will have stopovers in England for a month.

N830MH Mar 13, 2020 6:32 AM

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Originally Posted by F1 Tommy (Post 8859291)
What a mess. Have seen several upgrades and a few reroutes via England to Europe today. I wonder if Lufthansa will have stopovers in England for a month.

No, they banned all flights to European for next 30 days. Due to coronavirus. Because of Donald Trump. He banned all flights to European.

F1 Tommy Mar 13, 2020 1:13 PM

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Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 8860494)
No, they banned all flights to European for next 30 days. Due to coronavirus. Because of Donald Trump. He banned all flights to European.


Not all. Read what the government put out again.

F1 Tommy Mar 13, 2020 4:05 PM

From Chicago Aviation fans on Facebook:

The impact of COVID-19 has resulted in the following route delays/suspensions for ORD:

-Qantas to BNE will be postponed until September 2020 but cargo routes continue. Bet you didn't know Qantas had a cargo route to ORD operated by Atlas Air.
-El Al to TLV will be postponed until June 28th
-Hainan to PEK and CTU postponed until October 2020 with a possible government takeover but 747 cargo routes continue.
-American to FCO and VCE postponed until June 2020 (no updates on new routes to BUD, PRG, and KRK)

Routes will not just automatically stop today. They will continue due to Americans traveling and coming home and cargo below deck. I expect the Chicago dedicated cargo routes to also start to pick up a lot from Europe and also China as people return to work in China.

F1 Tommy Mar 17, 2020 9:52 PM

This is starting to get really interesting now. I think the government might start restricting some domestic flights also. We still have international flights coming in and that will continue due to freight and Americans coming back and passengers from unrestricted countries. I have noticed an increase in dedicated freight flights into ORD that may increase even more if they reduce international passenger aircraft flights to almost none in a few weeks. We will see if it goes that far. Stay well and safe.

SIGSEGV Mar 17, 2020 11:17 PM

I heard there was a ground stop at MDW?

F1 Tommy Mar 18, 2020 1:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SIGSEGV (Post 8865292)
I heard there was a ground stop at MDW?

I think several controllers tested positive.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/03...dGuy2gRvUIP2F8

F1 Tommy Mar 20, 2020 3:33 PM

Looks like China Eastern has a 777W flight to ORD today in the air and on the way. Things are starting to get better in China but I am not sure if it has any passengers. Could be just cargo in the belly.

F1 Tommy Apr 3, 2020 11:10 AM

Qatar has started A350 service to ORD replacing 777-300 aircraft. Cargo traffic is very high at ORD with Chicago being a large part of the global cargo routing's. Silkway and Air Bridge are doing some of the longer routes with 747 8F aircraft and 747 400F along with Polar Air Cargo and many Asian cargo operators.

F1 Tommy Apr 14, 2020 11:31 PM

QATAR has been operating A350-1000 aircraft into ORD for a few weeks for just cargo flights.

Emirates will have the only special US flight to Dubai from Chicago(article below).

El Al operating several cargo only 787 9 flights from ORD to Tel Aviv.


Right now the north and south cargo areas at ORD are the busiest I have ever seen them with large amounts of widebody freighters coming in. Even Delta is operating several 777 flights a day to Frankfurt Germany with cargo only(Pharma shipments).



https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/covi...ation-flights/

F1 Tommy Apr 28, 2020 9:18 PM

So far British, Etihad, Qatar, Emirates, Turkish, KLM, Lufthansa, United, Delta, Aer Lingus, Japan Air, Korean Air, China East, Royal Jordanian, Cathay Pacific, Eva Air, ANA, TAP, El Al and Aero Mexico continue to fly passenger aircraft into ORD several times a week with almost only cargo onboard. That and the many dedicated cargo freighters make O'Hare a mainly widebody airport now.

Rockford is also a very busy place with UPS and Prime flights much higher than normal. Kind of funny the government gave grants to the cargo operators even though they have record amounts of private business even before the government charter flights.

F1 Tommy Apr 28, 2020 9:33 PM

Forgot also LOT and SAS several times a week just for cargo. UA and Delta have been doing special cargo only 772, 77W and 787 10 flights to Frankfurt Germany several times a day.

N830MH Apr 29, 2020 2:42 AM

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Originally Posted by F1 Tommy (Post 8906787)
Forgot also LOT and SAS several times a week just for cargo. UA and Delta have been doing special cargo only 772, 77W and 787 10 flights to Frankfurt Germany several times a day.

Yes, DL is doing it. Only cargo flight, not a schedule flight. They send more medical suppliers.

Tom In Chicago Apr 29, 2020 4:16 PM

Saw what I assume was a Lufthansa 747-800 parked at T5 monday morning. . . is that unusual? Also I was unable to find non-stop flights between ORD and FRA. . . must have to do with scheduling due to the current situation. . .

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RockfordSoxFan Apr 29, 2020 6:31 PM

Speaking of cargo, this article is almost 2 weeks old, but relevant. I thought I would share.

“This week, RFD hosted two Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) planes packed with more than 440 pallets and 300,000 pounds of medical supplies that were headed to a warehouse near Chicago for regional distribution to essential workers and patients.”

https://www.aviationpros.com/airport...-cargo-numbers

The planes that landed were Antonov An-124 Ruslan


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