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nomarandlee May 13, 2008 10:00 AM

Zell no to state bid for Wrigley
 
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http://www.suntimes.com/news/politic...gley13.article

Zell no to state bid for Wrigley
PLAN 'KIND OF CRAZY' |
Trib chief not sold on maverick financing deal

May 13, 2008

BY FRAN SPIELMAN AND DAVID ROEDER Staff Reporters

Tribune Co. Chairman Sam Zell has rejected former Gov. James Thompson's secret plan to acquire and renovate Wrigley Field for at least $400 million without raising taxes and now plans to package the Cubs and their landmark stadium in a private transaction, sources said Monday.

Together, the Cubs and their real estate could command $1 billion, based on recent sales of professional teams. Zell opened talks with Thompson, chairman of the Illinois Sports Facilities Authority, in hopes that selling Wrigley to the state would make the team more valuable.
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GregBear24 May 17, 2008 4:04 PM

These newspapers should be ashamed of themselves. Mars has no rights to change wrigley field's name. Wrigley Field is named for William Wrigley, not the Wrigley gum co. At the time the stadium was built, most ballparks were named for their owners. Secondly, the partial naming rights thing is about doing what the yankess are doing with their new ballpark, naming sections and gate entrances to the park. It will always be wrigley field, but we may have to sacrifice some historic integrity to keep it that way. As a diehard myself, I am willing to do that in order to renovate the park and ensure that it remains for another 94 years for my grandchildren and great grandchildren to see. The only negative will be that F'n stupid parking garage and promenade. That thing is atrocious, but I guess in this day and age we have no choice. All the fans from the suburbs should take the metra down and the red line to the ballpark, but that would make going to a game an all-day event. Oh no!

nomarandlee Jun 11, 2008 5:35 AM

Well since the deal with the state has died and it doesn't the condition of Wrigley doesn't seem dire I am guessing any plans to revamp Wrigley will not be seen for a number of years at least......

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...,6822610.story

Cubs documents: Wrigley condition not dire
By Phil Rosenthal | Tribune media columnist
10:14 PM CDT, June 10, 2008

Despite earlier indications that Wrigley Field needed urgent costly repairs, documents received Tuesday by some of the prospective buyers of the Chicago Cubs offer a less dire portrait of the aging park's condition, sources with knowledge of the so-called books said Tuesday.

Two separate books are in circulation. One, at around 125 pages, is said to cover financial information and other data for the team, Wrigley Field, and Comcast SportsNet Chicago, a regional cable network in which the ballclub owns a stake. The second, at 75 pages or so, went only to potential bidders for Wrigley and covers only that property.

Sources indicated the books make no specific representation as to the condition of Wrigley Field and the work that needs to be done, even though the urgency of major capital expenditures on repairs and improvements was front and center as owner Tribune Co. sought to transfer ownership of the ballpark to the Illinois Sports Facilities Authority. Those negotiations broke down Monday...............
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nomarandlee Jul 17, 2008 8:14 PM

Inland makes bid for Wrigley Field
 
Quote:

http://www.suntimes.com/business/106...071708.article

Inland makes bid for Wrigley Field

July 17, 2008Recommend (10)

BY DAVID ROEDER AND FRAN SPIELMAN Staff Reporters

A leading Chicago-area real estate firm has submitted an offer to buy Wrigley Field, betting that lease payments from the Chicago Cubs and eventual improvements to the ballpark will make it a decent investment.

Sources said Thursday that Inland Real Estate Group of Companies Inc., based in Oak Brook, has turned in the offer to Cubs owner Tribune Co. The amount of the offer couldn’t be learned, but it is believed to be close to $300 million, the sum Tribune Chairman Sam Zell wants out of Wrigley if he sells the team and the property separately.

......One source close to the Cubs sale process said the team has received 20 offers for the park and 10 for the team or the combination of the team and the stadium. Financial experts have said that the Cubs-Wrigley combination could command more than $1 billion.

........Cosenza added that bidders should not figure on money from selling the name. “Whoever ends up with that ballpark wouldn’t want to be in Chicago if they change the name,” he said............
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nomarandlee Aug 7, 2008 10:42 AM

Quote:

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseb...wrig07.article

Cubs may be bleacher bums on Wrigley parking garage

August 7, 2008Recommend

BY FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter fspielman@suntimes.com

It looks like the Cubs may never build the 400-space parking garage adjacent to Wrigley Field promised to area residents in exchange for a 1,791-seat bleacher expansion.

Cubs Chairman Crane Kenney said the building planned for a triangular parcel adjacent to the stadium has been "completely re-designed" by Tribune Co. CEO Sam Zell's real estate team to include more retail and office space at the expense of parking.

The new garage would shrink to 250 spaces to accommodate players, team officials, sponsors and media whose late departure from Cubs games would not exacerbate post-game congestion. To make up for the loss of parking, a smaller garage could be built on less valuable land away from Wrigley, sources said.

And instead of topping off the triangle building with a quaint rooftop garden, the top floor would include a revenue-generating stadium club. "It'll be a first-class opportunity for business fans and those who entertain at the ballpark to do so" in style, Kenney said.

The revamped design includes an upscale restaurant, retail stores specializing in Cubs merchandise and team offices. Below ground, there would be batting cages, pitching mounds and workout facilities for Cubs players. More concessions and washrooms are also planned.
Sun-Times render in article.....

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...0708wrig-1.jpg

the urban politician Aug 7, 2008 2:14 PM

^ A big improvement from the crapola planned before.

the urban politician Aug 7, 2008 2:48 PM

Of course, the surest way to tell if a project has improved is whether NIMBY's oppose it, which they clearly will. Crains has posted an article about it right now; let the NIMBY bitching begin.

As of 2008 people still actually believe that providing more parking leads to reduced traffic congestion. And Barack Obama is a muslim

Tom Servo Aug 7, 2008 9:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nomarandlee (Post 3719698)

:uhh: hmmm... i'm extremely skeptical of this being a good thing for wrigley...

Alliance Aug 7, 2008 9:47 PM

Least there is less parking. *shrugs*

aaron38 Aug 7, 2008 9:49 PM

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To make up for the loss of parking, a smaller garage could be built on less valuable land away from Wrigley, sources said.
Like at Cumberland and Howard? Who drives to Wrigley? And more importantly, why are you still sober enough to drive home?

The design is standard boring stadium architecture, but at least it's built to the lot line and forms a streetwall. Maybe we can get rid of the McDonalds drive thru next?

SkokieSwift Aug 9, 2008 9:20 PM

Is that a bridge connecting this thing to Wrigley???

LaSalle.St.Station Aug 11, 2008 4:14 AM

the love of wrigley is timeless.....it is almost a collegiate atmosphere.. dammit it is.....

Chicagoguy Aug 11, 2008 4:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SkokieSwift (Post 3724958)
Is that a bridge connecting this thing to Wrigley???

Yea it looks as though it is connecting the two...

I love this...alot needs to be done about the area surrounding Wrigley and this is a huge step in the right direction...I hope this gets completed before the start of next season!

ChicagoChicago Aug 14, 2008 5:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 3719957)
Of course, the surest way to tell if a project has improved is whether NIMBY's oppose it, which they clearly will. Crains has posted an article about it right now; let the NIMBY bitching begin.

As of 2008 people still actually believe that providing more parking leads to reduced traffic congestion. And Barack Obama is a muslim

Quoted for Truth.

I live near Wrigley, and I can tell you that a large reason the area is in such great shape today is because of the stadium. The NIMBY's were all for the businesses coming back to Clark and Addison. Adding parking just means more people will drive instead of take mass transit. Don't give them an option, and you won't have this problem.

Chicagoguy Aug 19, 2008 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoChicago (Post 3735505)
Quoted for Truth.

I live near Wrigley, and I can tell you that a large reason the area is in such great shape today is because of the stadium. The NIMBY's were all for the businesses coming back to Clark and Addison. Adding parking just means more people will drive instead of take mass transit. Don't give them an option, and you won't have this problem.

I agree with you there...I can see the required parking for the athletes, coaches, team owners, and even media...but there is no need to give people a reason to drive by making public parking around there. That is one of the main reasons why this city cannot depend more on transit, because we build so many damn parking garages in pretty much every building. Look at NY...they barely add parking to new condo buildings anymore and if they do its only about 50 places as opposed to our 300 or 400 spots. We have alot to work on!

george Mar 23, 2009 12:04 AM

I know this is a bit off thread but what is happening on the old Sports Corner site.

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6893/sc2hlq.jpg


http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/7518/sc1u.jpg

spyguy Mar 23, 2009 2:38 AM

^I think someone here said that they were going to build a new and larger Sports Corner.

george Mar 24, 2009 4:20 PM

^ thanks for the update, spyguy. In my search, I haven't found any updated plans for the new & improved Sports Corner.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7...rtscorner2.jpg

Dr. Taco Mar 24, 2009 9:55 PM

^ RIP, completely-unimpressive-building-who's-only-redeeming-value-was-housing-a-shitty-bar-that-was-only-worth-going-to-on-thursdays

honte Mar 24, 2009 9:57 PM

^ How very-informed of you.

Dr. Taco Mar 24, 2009 11:03 PM

^ haha, i knew you'd say something. I'd love to hear what's good about the building, or if you could refer me to a post where it was already discussed :)

honte Mar 25, 2009 2:52 AM

^ Pretty predictable, huh? I'm surprised I even subscribe to this thread, being such a sports fan, and all.

There was a long discussion about it in the General Developments thread. Actually, I was surprised by how many people did see the qualities of the building (and some sports nostalgia too). I'd suggest looking over there.

george Mar 25, 2009 2:54 AM

^ I rarely went there, maybe twice. Something about it didn't feel right. Sluggers has more space & a better vibe. I'm curious to see how they replace the old SC. Traditional details or block box. But I digress.

VivaLFuego Mar 25, 2009 4:23 AM

I'd be shocked if the replacement isn't noticeably crappier and less appropriate for the location than the building they razed.

george Mar 25, 2009 6:24 PM

^That's what I'm afraid of.^

Nowhereman1280 Mar 25, 2009 10:01 PM

^^^ But wouldn't it be great if it turned out to be some faceted glass cube? A dream I know, but I hope its a dream that will eventually start coming true in the future. Times of hardship (wars, depression, relocation) seem to trigger more radical experimentation in art and architecture, hopefully this mini-depression will do the same...

george Apr 9, 2009 10:03 PM

The Captain dropped some coin on this.

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/8559/wrigley1.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/247/wrigley5.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5281/wrigley4.jpg

New sod, Play ball!
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5310/wrigley3.jpg

honte Apr 9, 2009 11:31 PM

^ Is that an alteration? If so, I'm shocked they allowed it.

nomarandlee Apr 9, 2009 11:33 PM

Yep, that sure looks hideous.

Philadelcago Apr 10, 2009 3:41 AM

:previous: i can't believe that. what a disgrace. like there aren't enough bars and restaurants within puking distance of the field as there are now? now they go and continue the bastardization and corporate branding of what should, IMHO, remain a low-key stadium. I guess it would be ok to have that club, but why can't it just be named something like 'wrigley club' or 'caray club' -- something team or field specific? i get it that captain morgan is sponsoring this, but i just don't see the connection between a pirate and the cubs.

first there's the bud light bleachers, now this. can't wait to see what's in store next. what a shame.

bnk Apr 10, 2009 4:57 AM

The first thing that popped in my head was that thing is terrible.

Just one more place to catch and sell to the drunken fans before and after the game.

Right behind the Harry Carry statue and all. Harry my have had a few in his day but I do not think he was a rum man.

Just a very sad addition.


http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5281/wrigley4.jpg


photo by george

nomarandlee Apr 10, 2009 5:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philadelcago (Post 4187715)
:previous: i can't believe that. what a disgrace. like there aren't enough bars and restaurants within puking distance of the field as there are now? now they go and continue the bastardization and corporate branding of what should, IMHO, remain a low-key stadium. I guess it would be ok to have that club, but why can't it just be named something like 'wrigley club' or 'caray club' -- something team or field specific? i get it that captain morgan is sponsoring this, but i just don't see the connection between a pirate and the cubs.

first there's the bud light bleachers, now this. can't wait to see what's in store next. what a shame.

My problem isn't so much with the name of it even though it is indeed tacky. Most here much more eloquent then myself can pick it apart but it should offend even the most casual observers eye even if it is not suppose to be a permanent structure. If this is sensitivity the ballpark then I am damn glad the Tribune is out in the door before any eventual rehabbing of the actual ballpark, what does disturb is that I am guessing the new prospective owner was consulted and actually signed of on this.

lawfin Apr 10, 2009 6:41 AM

This is the type of boo-ya, uuggah-uuggah, yahoo crap that makes me hate myself for being a cub fan, I wish I couldn't be but I can't can't be

honte Apr 10, 2009 6:10 PM

Is it temporary? If so, that would be the reason it slid past Landmarks.

Or did that Landmarking not ever happen? I have to admit, I've been too distracted to follow it.

______
(Edit: It's weird, but the second paragraph of my original post did not appear in the actual post until I went back to edit it.)

Steely Dan Apr 10, 2009 7:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnk (Post 4187841)
Right behind the Harry Carry statue and all. Harry my have had a few in his day but I do not think he was a rum man.

in fact, if the television advertising of the 1980s can believed, harry caray was not only a "cubs fan", he was also a "bud man". ;)

HowardL Apr 12, 2009 2:26 AM

I was over by Wrigley today. This Captain Rum thing ... you don't really notice it. That creepy Carey Ascending from the Flames sculpture is way more disturbing, really.

OhioGuy Apr 12, 2009 2:58 AM

I'd been watching that thing take shape over the past few weeks as the Addison station is my local el stop, but I had no clue what it was that they were building. I guess I could have asked here, but for some reason I never thought about it other than when I was standing on the el platform looking at the evolving structure taking shape. So it's a bar? I never go out drinking in Wrigleyville anyway, so it doesn't mean much to me. I was surprised how quickly they built it though.

Tom Servo Apr 19, 2009 7:08 AM

i just spent the last three days in wrigley (best waste of money, ever.), and the captain morgan thing is actually pretty nice. it's unnoticeable, and fits in well with everything else. why does everything not like it?

what freaks me out is this:
http://chicagoist.com/attachments/ch...gram122308.jpg
that'll absolutely destroy wrigleyville. and what's with the damn trees? even NARROWER side walks? trees have no place on that stretch of clark. and neither does a MASSIVE 9 story mega-plex. what's the news on this? is the city going to allow this?


and what's the news on the new building planned for the parking lot next door ...with the new facilities and team parking and such?

LucasS6 Apr 19, 2009 9:06 AM

Yeah, somehow I don't think one block can destroy Wrigleyville. Anyway, I'm not sure what the problem with this bar is. When you think Cubs you think bars anyway, what's one more right in the stadium?

Tom Servo Apr 20, 2009 8:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LucasS6 (Post 4203695)
Yeah, somehow I don't think one block can destroy Wrigleyville. Anyway, I'm not sure what the problem with this bar is. When you think Cubs you think bars anyway, what's one more right in the stadium?

wrigleyville is almost entirely that block. clark, from addison to newport.

jpIllInoIs Apr 20, 2009 1:03 PM

Gotta agree with AXS on this one. From the rendering it looks like the develpment is intentionally pushing pedestrian to the other sidewalks. the trees look like barriers. I imagine that once folks are actually living in the units, they will be complaing about all the traffic and people on THEIR sidewalks. And of course "what about the children?"

Busy Bee Apr 20, 2009 1:34 PM

That;s bull. This rendering looks like a step up from SketchUp. WE don;t even know if those trees are actually planned. It's like seeing a rendering that has 'store' signs or 'bank' and getting all pissed off that their planning on having a bank in he development. You are just speculating. To suggest that their intention is to push people of "their" sidewalk is premature and frankly a bit batty.

LucasS6 Apr 20, 2009 6:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AdrianXSands (Post 4205164)
wrigleyville is almost entirely that block. clark, from addison to newport.

So the area around Bernie's and to the west is...

I know the borders for Wrigleyville are very vague, but I can't help but to think it also goes north, west, and east of the park, too. Not just south...for one block.

sammyg Apr 20, 2009 9:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AdrianXSands (Post 4205164)
wrigleyville is almost entirely that block. clark, from addison to newport.

That development barely goes to Eddy, 3 streets north of Newport. And Wrigleyville definitely goes all the way down to Roscoe and up to Grace. Casey Moran's, The Full Shilling, Murphy's Bleachers, The Blarney Stone, and many others, including "Rockit Wrigleyville" are north of that block.

Besides, there isn't much on that block except a parking lot, a 7-11, a Starbucks, and the Salt and Pepper. Bar Louie and the sketchy memorabilia joint are being saved. I live 2 blocks away, and the area could use a hotel, and something definitely needs to be done about those almost always empty parking lots.

Tom Servo Apr 21, 2009 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by sammyg (Post 4206118)
That development barely goes to Eddy, 3 streets north of Newport. And Wrigleyville definitely goes all the way down to Roscoe and up to Grace. Casey Moran's, The Full Shilling, Murphy's Bleachers, The Blarney Stone, and many others, including "Rockit Wrigleyville" are north of that block.

Besides, there isn't much on that block except a parking lot, a 7-11, a Starbucks, and the Salt and Pepper. Bar Louie and the sketchy memorabilia joint are being saved. I live 2 blocks away, and the area could use a hotel, and something definitely needs to be done about those almost always empty parking lots.

yeah... let's all split hairs as to where wrigleyville starts and ends. :koko:

this development has NO place on clark street.
can anyone really tell me they'd like to see from here, to here ERASED with some brand new bs?
and since when does wrigleyville need a hotel and MORE condos? i'm all for replacing the 7-11 and the empty lots with 1-3 story building, but a 9-story MEGA PLEX? this is just awful, and has no place in the community.

also, the starbucks isn't just some crappy building.
it's an original piece of chicago

...this isn't a part of chicago that is in need of new development. and besides, if the developer wants his huge project, why isn't the lot of 7-11 down to the starbucks big enough?


and btw, i too live in the neighborhood.

lawfin Apr 21, 2009 1:33 AM

I think the damn development should be even larger, taller and more intense as long as they don't have those 520 paking spots

LucasS6 Apr 21, 2009 5:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdrianXSands (Post 4206446)
yeah... let's all split hairs as to where wrigleyville starts and ends. :koko:

When you say a neighborhood consists of one block in an effort to dramatize your opinion, expect it to be shot down. FYI for the future, I guess.

Neuman Apr 21, 2009 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philadelcago (Post 4187715)
:previous: i can't believe that. what a disgrace. like there aren't enough bars and restaurants within puking distance of the field as there are now? now they go and continue the bastardization and corporate branding of what should, IMHO, remain a low-key stadium. I guess it would be ok to have that club, but why can't it just be named something like 'wrigley club' or 'caray club' -- something team or field specific? i get it that captain morgan is sponsoring this, but i just don't see the connection between a pirate and the cubs.

first there's the bud light bleachers, now this. can't wait to see what's in store next. what a shame.

If people don't want the park renamed, this is the way ownership is going to increase revenue. Yankee Stadium is still called Yankee Stadium, but every seat; cup holder and fixture within the park has a corporate logo slapped on it.

Get used to it.

Neuman Apr 21, 2009 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdrianXSands (Post 4206446)
yeah... let's all split hairs as to where wrigleyville starts and ends. :koko:

this development has NO place on clark street.
can anyone really tell me they'd like to see from here, to here ERASED with some brand new bs?
and since when does wrigleyville need a hotel and MORE condos? i'm all for replacing the 7-11 and the empty lots with 1-3 story building, but a 9-story MEGA PLEX? this is just awful, and has no place in the community.

also, the starbucks isn't just some crappy building.
it's an original piece of chicago

...this isn't a part of chicago that is in need of new development. and besides, if the developer wants his huge project, why isn't the lot of 7-11 down to the starbucks big enough?


and btw, i too live in the neighborhood.

If they tear down Mullens I'll be extremely pissed...

And if they can tear down The sports corner, or the Budwieser Building in left field (which will take place after this season for a 4 story condo/rooftop), both of which are/were original Lakeview buildings the Starbucks will likely go the way of the Dodo...

I'd like to see some low rise commercial on the South side of Addison, a couple of restaurants and Cafe's would be nice. Sprinkle in a bar or two and it would be perfect.

k1052 Apr 21, 2009 3:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdrianXSands (Post 4206446)
yeah... let's all split hairs as to where wrigleyville starts and ends. :koko:

this development has NO place on clark street.
can anyone really tell me they'd like to see from here, to here ERASED with some brand new bs?
and since when does wrigleyville need a hotel and MORE condos? i'm all for replacing the 7-11 and the empty lots with 1-3 story building, but a 9-story MEGA PLEX? this is just awful, and has no place in the community.

also, the starbucks isn't just some crappy building.
it's an original piece of chicago

...this isn't a part of chicago that is in need of new development. and besides, if the developer wants his huge project, why isn't the lot of 7-11 down to the starbucks big enough?


and btw, i too live in the neighborhood.

Not much besides the Starbucks building that's up for demolition is really worth a second thought and the displaced bars are being offered leases in the new building. That wedge of land is badly under utilized. I also believe the residental has been switched to rental from condo.

Getting this kind of dense multi-use project within spitting distance of the Red Line is exactly the kind of stuff the city should be supporting.


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