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PHLtoNYC Jun 30, 2022 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by arkitect13 (Post 9663933)
I cant remember if this was in the plans or not, but what the whole project needs is street trees and flower beds. For shade and nice pops of color against the yellows, whites, and greys that dominate the project. Does anyone remember if the proposal included street trees?

The CDR submission link on page 1 isn't working for me, but the renders show street trees.

But that doesn't mean they are a guarantee. I hope they are included. All this development along Spring Garden is great, but vegetation is an important (overlooked) catalyst to improving a neighborhood.

summersm343 Jul 18, 2022 3:37 PM

Update from Naked Philly:

https://www.ocfrealty.com/wp-content...-1536x1025.jpg

https://www.ocfrealty.com/naked-phil...en-parking-lot

helloworld Jul 27, 2022 3:30 AM

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...4c351e21_h.jpg

the northern wing is just barely peeking into the frame here but from street level this is beginning to feel really massive

japmes Jul 27, 2022 11:02 AM

^^^ Is an Amazon grocery still planned for that corner?

TempleGuy1000 Jul 27, 2022 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by japmes (Post 9686898)
^^^ Is an Amazon grocery still planned for that corner?

it's almost done lol. That's what they look like.

William Van Alen Jul 27, 2022 2:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TempleGuy1000 (Post 9686913)
it's almost done lol. That's what they look like.

Wow, and I thought the Giant on Delaware Ave in South Philly was ugly.

TempleGuy1000 Jul 27, 2022 4:31 PM

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Originally Posted by William Van Alen (Post 9687027)
Wow, and I thought the Giant on Delaware Ave in South Philly was ugly.

I would imagine that Amazon did their due-diligence in terms of creating a design people would feel attracted to going too. I guess people like bland and sterile looking super markets.

https://i.imgur.com/b3MEhGvl.jpg

TonyTone Jul 28, 2022 12:13 AM

https://i.imgur.com/kQZyjHgh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/eymDyvSh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/FQWXWQph.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/fzIaWCuh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HWr44RHh.jpg

City Wide Jul 28, 2022 1:01 AM

nice clean, straight forward design.
I think it was a missed opportunity to have such a large single-story build on so much of the site.
Early on Amazon was going to take 40K of the 60K feet of commercial space; is that still the plan, and has CVS etc. taken the rest of the space?

Justin7 Jul 28, 2022 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by City Wide (Post 9687646)
I think it was a missed opportunity to have such a large single-story build on so much of the site.

This still seems completely crazy to me.

PHLtoNYC Jul 28, 2022 1:51 PM

Deleted, wrong thread.

japmes Jul 28, 2022 2:10 PM

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Originally Posted by City Wide (Post 9687646)
nice clean, straight forward design.
I think it was a missed opportunity to have such a large single-story build on so much of the site.
Early on Amazon was going to take 40K of the 60K feet of commercial space; is that still the plan, and has CVS etc. taken the rest of the space?

Any chance for a green roof on the lower level?

badthingshappen Jul 31, 2022 3:27 PM

Never knew how much of Yards' roof was covered in solar panels.

skyhigh07 Jul 31, 2022 3:56 PM

Can’t say I’m a fan of this one. The massing is odd. They could have done something much more interesting given the angle of 5th St.

philly_account12 Aug 2, 2022 3:00 PM

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Originally Posted by City Wide (Post 9687646)
nice clean, straight forward design.
I think it was a missed opportunity to have such a large single-story build on so much of the site.
Early on Amazon was going to take 40K of the 60K feet of commercial space; is that still the plan, and has CVS etc. taken the rest of the space?

The weird green line design above the doorway in the picture helloworld posted is on all of amazon's grocery stores so they're definitely moving in.

philly_account12 Aug 8, 2022 7:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PHLtoNYC (Post 9664049)
The CDR submission link on page 1 isn't working for me, but the renders show street trees.

But that doesn't mean they are a guarantee. I hope they are included. All this development along Spring Garden is great, but vegetation is an important (overlooked) catalyst to improving a neighborhood.

Two minor updates. First, it seems like they're pushing for the grocery store to open asap (the sidewalk in front of that section was being re-installed this morning).

Also, it looks like the street trees are still included. There were actually 6-8 trees on site this morning waiting to be planted (which have to be for around the 1 story section since the main section hasn't topped off yet).

3rd&Brown Aug 8, 2022 7:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin7 (Post 9687851)
This still seems completely crazy to me.

I mean, on the flip side, with the massing concentrated on the east side of the site, it preserves the view corridors for many more people. If that building were that mass all of the way across the site it would have cloaked much of the development behind it in constant shadow.

To me it feels like a nice response to the surrounding area.

Add to that, I don't know what early iterations of this site looked like, but if the NoLibs Zoning Committee was involved they could have asked for the massing for the aforementioned reason. It could also have something to do with specifications from Amazon.

Who knows.

Redddog Aug 8, 2022 7:27 PM

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Originally Posted by philly_account12 (Post 9696945)
Two minor updates. First, it seems like they're pushing for the grocery store to open asap (the sidewalk in front of that section was being re-installed this morning).

Also, it looks like the street trees are still included. There were actually 6-8 trees on site this morning waiting to be planted (which have to be for around the 1 story section since the main section hasn't topped off yet).

The live cam shows the trees along 6th planted as of today.

jaysb Aug 8, 2022 7:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Redddog (Post 9696967)
The live cam shows the trees along 6th planted as of today.

Glad to hear trees are going in but a 95 degree day is hardly the time to shock a new street tree :shrug:

PHLtoNYC Aug 8, 2022 8:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jaysb (Post 9696973)
Glad to hear trees are going in but a 95 degree day is hardly the time to shock a new street tree :shrug:

Hopefully they will be watered.


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