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SJ has a weak downtown because's it's essentially a giant postwar Sunbelt suburb, and the SV corporate behemoths are located elsewhere. If Facebook, Apple and Google were downtown, yeah, things would be more vibrant. |
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San Jose is also really freakin far from SF. It was never a bedroom suburb for people working in SF. Of course suburban sprawl eventually engulfed the whole distance between the cities. |
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Wrightville (later Hull, later still, Gatineau) was founded years before Bytown (later, Ottawa). Regardless, Ottawa is clearly the centre of this region, hence why it prefaces Gatineau in the CMA sweepstakes. Things change for sure.
I believe New Westminster was also founded before Vancouver. Maybe Boston wouldn't exist if it weren't for decisions made in London (England). :) |
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Regarding the Baltimore/Washington analogy... It makes more sense if you consider Baltimore to be the analogy of San Francisco, and Washington the analogy of San Jose.
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Stanford definitely isn't there because of SF.
SJ, while sprawly and not traditionally citylike, was historically unrelated to SF. It's 50 miles away, and was its own city, when the stretch between the two cities was farmland. Obviously now they're part of the same region. |
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We are just talking about San Jose here because it has an unusual large city proper, as it’s not even the centre of Silicon Valley, itself a multinodal area. |
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Anyway that's all mostly irrelevant to why Stanford became so important to Silicon Valley. I suspect if Stanford were in the middle of nowhere rather than close to San Francisco, it may not have become as important an academic center. Also, I don't know to what extent many of us are wrongly attributing Silicon's Valley growth to just Stanford. It's a nice story that helps my CV but there are other drivers too (e.g. NASA Ames). |
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It’s OBVIOUS Stanford is where it is because there were a big and wealth city northwards, otherwise it could be on California-Oregon border instead in the middle of nowhere.
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When Stanford was founded, there was no big/wealthy city anywhere in the Western U.S. And it isn't like you need a nearby big city to have an elite university. Cornell's Ithaca campus is in the middle of nowhere. The nearest cities of note are NYC and Toronto, both about 4 hours away. Duke, Dartmouth, Amherst and many other elite universities were established in relatively isolated settings. Leland Stanford lived in Sacramento and San Francisco, so yeah, Stanford was established where it was based on him; it wouldn't be on the Oregon border. But I don't think it's accurate to say that Stanford was established based on a relationship with SF. |
Seems like a spire height vs roof height discussion...Anyway, Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA definitely seems like an offshoot of Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CA. If they can throw Newark into the NYC metro, I don't see why they should not through Riverside in LA's metro.
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but beyond that, the comparison to newark and NYC is more than a little off. as the crow flies: downtown newark to lower manhattan: 8.5 miles downtown riverside to downtown LA: 50 miles that's kind of a big difference from a functional & psychological standpoint. |
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A "Riverside" of NY would be somewhere like New Haven or Trenton. A "Newark" of LA would be somewhere like Pasadena or Inglewood. |
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