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Ricochet48 Aug 27, 2019 6:10 PM

Anyone sign up for the email list to get the floor plans? Curious to see what the $450K 1 Bedroom is like... more of a micro-apartment or a 900+sqft 1.5BA wit a small den / nook?

The list of amenities look very legit. Bike+dog washing, golf sim, great views for the fireworks, etc.

The Pimp Aug 27, 2019 6:17 PM

These two buildings are nothing but filler. I'm very disappointed. Such a prominent location only to have two turds go up.

Donnie77 Aug 27, 2019 6:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Pimp (Post 8670377)
These two buildings are nothing but filler. I'm very disappointed. Such a prominent location only to have two turds go up.

Yes because who doesn't love living next to a noisy highway? Apparently now days all of Chicago is is a prominent location....:uhh:

kolchak Aug 27, 2019 6:46 PM

:banana: Nice development. Will be interesting to see how they navigate lakefront access.

chicubs111 Aug 27, 2019 7:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Donnie77 (Post 8670391)
Yes because who doesn't love living next to a noisy highway? Apparently now days all of Chicago is is a prominent location....:uhh:

umm...you serious?...these building have unobstructed lake views forever...there are only so many of these types of open land plots available on the north side..let alone the heart of the city.....and yes lakeshore drive apartments next to a "noisy highway" are never a big seller :koko: … I understand they negotiated for smaller buildings here so the corner lot could get taller but I mean anything less than 60 floors at this locations does seem like a waste

Steely Dan Aug 27, 2019 7:18 PM

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Originally Posted by chicubs111 (Post 8670456)
I understand they negotiated for smaller buildings here so the corner lot could get taller but I mean anything less than 60 floors at this locations does seem like a waste

from a skyline perspective, that's a pretty great trade.

i'd MUCH rather have a 950 footer with two shorter sidekicks than three ~700' buildings at this location.

Donnie77 Aug 27, 2019 7:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 8670464)
from a skyline perspective, that's a pretty great trade.

i'd MUCH rather have a 950 footer with two shorter sidekicks than three ~700' buildings at this location.

Good point

chicubs111 Aug 27, 2019 8:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 8670464)
from a skyline perspective, that's a pretty great trade.

i'd MUCH rather have a 950 footer with two shorter sidekicks than three ~700' buildings at this location.

dont know...how about just two 900 ft buildings and no third building?...anyways i would prefer all 3 buildings to be allowed to build to maximum or atleast 900ft considering there all bordering the highway and have permanent lake views... i guess the zoning of lakeshoreast at the time didn't have that in mind.

cozy Aug 27, 2019 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kolchak (Post 8670413)
:banana: Nice development. Will be interesting to see how they navigate lakefront access.

Pretty well, IMO

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cozy Aug 27, 2019 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Pimp (Post 8670377)
These two buildings are nothing but filler. I'm very disappointed. Such a prominent location only to have two turds go up.

I don't mind the turds (they really are such boring buildings, but huge buildings nonetheless). Help fuel the city's economy and drive construction for the next cycle - we can't always win with these profit-focused developers and we can't forget how much more room we have along the north and south branch of the river for the coming decades. Hopefully we will see our skyline expand (the 78, Lincoln Yards) as well as improve (Parcel I, Spire site).

:cheers:

LouisVanDerWright Aug 27, 2019 11:54 PM

^^^^

A. Are those gold stripes? That's pretty bold.

B. Between this pair and Vista LSE is going to really be transformed when it comes to connectvity. It will be possible to meanader in off the lakefront and right up onto Upper Wacker or over to Maggie Daley Park, no more endless flights of stairs and underground streets. A whole new pathway to the Lakefront and loop connecting the River, Lake, and Grant/Daley/Millenium Park.

cozy Aug 28, 2019 1:16 AM

Yes! Thank you louis. The main reason I'm excited for this project + the completion of Vista

HomrQT Aug 28, 2019 1:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Donnie77 (Post 8670391)
Yes because who doesn't love living next to a noisy highway? Apparently now days all of Chicago is is a prominent location....:uhh:

To be fair this is Lake Shore East, and at this point most of downtown is a "prominent location" in relation to the rest of the city as we march ever along into the "Manhattanization" (read all lot parcels being gobbled up) of downtown Chicago.

rlw777 Aug 28, 2019 2:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 8670464)
from a skyline perspective, that's a pretty great trade.

i'd MUCH rather have a 950 footer with two shorter sidekicks than three ~700' buildings at this location.

also having mostly somewhat shorter buildings at the lake shore allows for more depth in the skyline and is actually a better strategy for maximizing the value of the land both at the lake shore and further inland.

SamInTheLoop Aug 28, 2019 2:14 AM

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Originally Posted by The Pimp (Post 8670377)
These two buildings are nothing but filler. I'm very disappointed. Such a prominent location only to have two turds go up.


Turds is way harsh for these two. They're solid contributions. Not thrilling I'll grant, but they're a step up from the Lowenberg and DeStefano towers at LSE.

The Pimp Aug 28, 2019 3:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cozy (Post 8670752)
I don't mind the turds (they really are such boring buildings, but huge buildings nonetheless). Help fuel the city's economy and drive construction for the next cycle - we can't always win with these profit-focused developers and we can't forget how much more room we have along the north and south branch of the river for the coming decades. Hopefully we will see our skyline expand (the 78, Lincoln Yards) as well as improve (Parcel I, Spire site).

:cheers:

I completely agree.

The Pimp Aug 28, 2019 3:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SamInTheLoop (Post 8670936)
Turds is way harsh for these two. They're solid contributions. Not thrilling I'll grant, but they're a step up from the Lowenberg and DeStefano towers at LSE.

They are solid contributions. No doubt. But, not for this location. It doesn't matter what we say any way.

Skyguy_7 Aug 28, 2019 5:54 PM

They are solid additions. The park/green space is a nice solution to connect to the existing street level to the West, but a handicap person's nightmare. Look at all those switchbacks!

Tom In Chicago Aug 28, 2019 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 8671646)
They are solid additions. The park/green space is a nice solution to connect to the existing street level to the West, but a handicap person's nightmare. Look at all those switchbacks!

Handicap people can simply take the elevator across the street. . .

. . .

Skyguy_7 Aug 29, 2019 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom In Chicago (Post 8671965)
Handicap people can simply take the elevator across the street. . .

. . .

Of course; I am sure there are multiple options. Looking on the bright side, to some handicapped, the trip down would be a dream! They'd feel like they were racing at Monaco.


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