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CityBoyDoug Oct 25, 2018 9:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido (Post 8357656)
Not exactly noirish but very fresh and poetical fact. Thanks a lot CityBoy !

More trivia on the Silver tip tree.

Silver tips are a true high elevation fir mostly growing at 6000 -8000 ft . Unlike other species that planted in straight rows, the Red Fir are mostly harvested from natural stands.This generally provides the advantage over lower elevation trees of keeping ability. Since the trees are dormant when they are cut, they tend to hold up longer and better than others, and can be harvested earlier in the Season.

The Silver Tip Christmas tree is native to the high elevations in California. It has long been a favorite for those that like an open growth pattern. The “Silver Tip” refers to the color and placement of the needles. The blue-green color on the tips of the branches is a different color then the interior green of the tree giving the appearance of the silver tipped branch. It has excellent keep ability, and very stiff branched to hold the heaviest of ornaments.

If you can find such a tree during the holiday time, count on about $11.00 per foot. They grow in North Fork, CA and are now shipped by truck to LA.

BillinGlendaleCA Oct 26, 2018 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHERIFFPAUL (Post 8357679)
Mr. Hill said this was in Silver Lake but doesn't remember the exact location.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/sjWTUS.jpg

I think I found the house, it's at 3751 Franklin Ave., it's has some work done(well it's close to Hollywood).

This is pretty much the same angle that Mr. Hill took the pic:
https://i.postimg.cc/50VtSdYH/ER-Mys...0181025-03.jpgGoogle Street View
They've converted the balcony above the garage to a finished room and supersized it! But I was not convinced that this was indeed the house, so let's head down Rhonda Vista a few more feet...

https://i.postimg.cc/HsRdtDFp/ER-Mys...0181025-02.jpgGoogle Street View
Since the trees were blocking the right hand portion of Mr. Hill's original view, I took the GoogleMobile down the street past the trees. You can see the double garage at an angle to the street, the flat roofed white building and the mountains in the background(you can also see some high rises in Glendale in Mr. Hill's shot). Still not convinced? You drive a hard bargain friend.

Here's the aerial view of the house from 1979.
https://i.postimg.cc/NjqZMgWr/ER-Mys...0181025-01.jpgvia Frame Finder

ETA: One thing that did bother me with this ID was the street light's shadow in Mr. Hill's photo, I don't think the current street light is far enough from the wall of the angled garage to produce that shadow. My theory is that when they built the green-grey monstrosity(it's picture is in the dictionary for the definition of fugly) they moved the street light for the new driveway.

ethereal_reality Oct 26, 2018 3:10 AM

It took me awhile to confirm...but you are CORRECT BillinGlendaleCA. :worship:


The garage across the street has been extended by the same amount as the garage in Mr. Hill's 1979 photo. (as shown below)

1979
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/lgONdC.jpg
detail




and today (I had to use the opposite side of the garage / the other side is now hidden by a bush)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/tA4HeL.jpg
GSV

See
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ethereal_reality Oct 26, 2018 3:33 AM

Now let's back up the google-mobile and take a look at the 'monstrosity' that Bill mentioned.
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA

My theory is that when they built the green-grey monstrosity (it's picture is in the dictionary for the definition of fugly)
they moved the street light for the new driveway.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Jps7Rd.jpg

Bill wasn't joking.

It's sheer height ruins the sense of scale along the street.







And look at all the ungainly utility wires tethered to it! (after looking more closely / half of the wires are for the neighbors)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/eDO96P.jpg

I don't understand how they were allowed to built it so tall? It blocks the view of the house -on the corner- across the street. The one in Mr. Hill's photograph.

I would be so pissed. :hell:

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HenryHuntington Oct 26, 2018 4:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8355981)
Mystical attachment to L.A. area sites being within the purview of Noirish L.A., I pose the question to other Noirishers: What place or places (if any) in L.A. engender in you a profound personal resonance of the nature of what I'm talking about?

For me, it's the original section of LAPL and the Rose Garden in Exposition Park.

ethereal_reality Oct 26, 2018 4:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tikiman (Post 8357175)
I color corrected the Fruit Basket slide but I can't figure out how to post the photo here from my desk top.
I also can't figure out how to delete my messages. What a learning curve!

Sorry - never mind. I will study the FAQ

No need to apologize Tikiman. it is confusing....at first.
Let us know if you need any help.
Hoss is a pro at explaining the ins & outs of posting images. ME, not so much. :(

I'm anxious to see how you colored corrected the mystery Fruit Basket slide.

this one
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/xovrTY.jpg
ORIGINAL POST located somewhere along Venice Blvd. [built 1930s]

Still no location?
:whip:
Where are all my minions? ..um..I mean..sleuths.


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Scott Charles Oct 26, 2018 5:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8357227)
I seem to remember that good pictures of the building were hard to find. In post #26820, I noted that "the 1927 CD also lists the Bank of Italy (International Branch) at 220 N Main Street." Here's some images from early 2016 (the first two show the building with a later façade):



NB. The full-size version of the first image isn't currently showing in my original post. It's likely to be another Photobucket issue which I'll try to fix later today!

Thanks, Hoss! Great photos, and ones I've never seen before, too!

:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8357309)
Here's a frame from near the start.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...acyStClip1.jpg

We're starting at Alameda and heading down Macy Street. The image above shows the "BER" of "LUMBER" on the Kerckhoff building.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...acyStClip2.jpg
USC Digital Library

It's right on the edge of two Baist plates, which I've merged below. This section of (what was) Macy Street now goes under the tracks coming out of Union Station.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...acyStClip3.jpg
www.historicmapworks.com/www.historicmapworks.com



I arrowed the "elevated booth" in the USC detail. It may have the same purpose as the one posted by MichaelRyerson, which was identified by Wig-Wag as a "switchtender's box for controlling the turning of streetcars".

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8357889)
Believe it or not, I think this clip starts in the same place as clip #4, but facing in the opposite direction. That would be about where the "M" of "Macy" is marked. The camera car then heads west and turns south onto Main.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AMacyMain1.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

The view above is from November 29, 1933, and I initially discounted this as the correct location because there are buildings dead ahead as the car turns onto Main. Then I checked earlier images which showed the area before Macy was extended to Spring. I've marked the extension on the January 1, 1929 view below. It's a shame the picture doesn't extend slightly north.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AMacyMain2.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

Here's a re-positioned detail of the USC image I posted earlier. I think the tower on the Baker Block (lower-right, below) is visible near the end of the video clip.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AMacyMain3.jpg
USC Digital Library

For anyone who's interested, I posted later pictures of the building on the northeast corner of Macy and Main in post #22221.

Amazing sleuthing, Hoss! You truly are a genius at this stuff. If I ever go back in time, I want you to be my tour guide!

Thanks for taking the time to figure this out!

Tikiman Oct 26, 2018 8:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8358383)
No need to apologize Tikiman. it is confusing....at first.
Let us know if you need any help.
Hoss is a pro at explaining the ins & outs of posting images. ME, not so much. :(

I'm anxious to see how you colored corrected the mystery Fruit Basket slide.

this one
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/xovrTY.jpg
ORIGINAL POST located somewhere along Venice Blvd. [built 1930s]

Still no location?
:whip:
Where are all my minions? ..um..I mean..sleuths.


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Here you go!!!
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1934/3...606c756d_b.jpg

Noir_Noir Oct 26, 2018 10:56 AM

:previous:


Not GPS like precise locationing ... more narrowing it down somewhat. :)


"The Fruit Basket - a stand that stood for 45 years on Venice Boulevard near La Brea Avenue."

Weird California

HossC Oct 26, 2018 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8358349)

Now let's back up the google-mobile and take a look at the 'monstrosity' that Bill mentioned.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Jps7Rd.jpg

Bill wasn't joking.

It's sheer height ruins the sense of scale along the street.

From Michael Locke on flickr:
Cotten-Elliott House, Michael Tolleson, Architect 1991

Emeryville-based architect Michael Tolleson designed the De Stijl-inspired house for Roy D. Cotten and Claudia Elliott in 1991. The abstract design attains an aesthetic balance using projecting and receding boxes enveloped in monochromatic grey. The house, perched on a hillside above Griffith Park Boulevard in the Franklin Hills of Los Angeles, California, can be seen from a great distance. Located at 2216 Ronda Vista Drive.

HossC Oct 26, 2018 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tikiman (Post 8358448)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8358464)

"The Fruit Basket - a stand that stood for 45 years on Venice Boulevard near La Brea Avenue."

Weird California

Could this be the Fruit Basket hidden behind the pole and bush?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...uitBasket1.jpg

It's just background detail in this 1931 Dick Whittington shot of Venice Boulevard and La Brea Avenue. There are three images in the set, but the second only shows a small slice of the building at the edge and the third is looking the other way.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...uitBasket2.jpg

Look above the car in the center and you can just see the Hollywoodland sign (top-right, below).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...uitBasket3.jpg

All from USC Digital Library

Tourmaline Oct 26, 2018 2:35 PM

:previous: Venice and La Brea, c 1931

"Sunfreeze, A Food Vital As Sunshine"

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...DMX=0&DMY=0&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...X=512&DMY=0&DM
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...X=0&DMY=512&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...512&DMY=512&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...ll170/id/24162





http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...512&DMY=512&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...024&DMY=512&DM
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...12&DMY=1024&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...24&DMY=1024&DM


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...48&DMY=2048&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...60&DMY=2048&DM
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...48&DMY=2560&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...60&DMY=2560&DM



https://farm9.static.flickr.com/8385...25fe840708.jpghttps://farm9.static.flickr.com/8385...25fe840708.jpg


https://i.pinimg.com/474x/2b/bf/16/2...-ice-cream.jpghttps://i.pinimg.com/474x/2b/bf/16/2...-ice-cream.jpg


1933, Chevrolet Sunfreeze delivery
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...DMX=0&DMY=0&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...X=512&DMY=0&DM
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...X=0&DMY=512&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...512&DMY=512&DM http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...ll170/id/49983



Tribal Sunfreeze

Enjoyed by saints and sinners?


1933 Tarzan Club, unk location
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...DMX=0&DMY=0&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...X=512&DMY=0&DM
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...X=0&DMY=512&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...512&DMY=512&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...ll170/id/50862



http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...60&DMY=3072&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...72&DMY=3072&DM
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...60&DMY=3584&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...72&DMY=3584&DM



http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...=0&DMY=2048&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...12&DMY=2048&DM
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...=0&DMY=2560&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...12&DMY=2560&DM

Hollywood Graham Oct 26, 2018 3:35 PM

Hollywood
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8357914)
And yet your screen name is "Hollywood" Graham...:shrug:


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Yesterday when I was looking up contemporary Hollywood Blvd., I saw a very good video (HD from 35mm) posted this year that I hadn't seen before. It's footage of Hollywood Blvd. from N. Orange Dr., just west of the Chinese Theatre, traveling east to just before the Warner (Pacific) Theatre at Stromberg Jewelers.

Movies on several marquees date the footage to 1966 and two clocks, one digital (First Federal Bldg.) and the other (Stromberg's sidewalk clock), place the time at 10:11 a.m. and it's either 75° or 79°.

Video Link

The name Hollywood Graham comes from one of my cars it is a 1941 Graham Hollywood.

The video was taken while I was working behind the medical center on McCadden and Hollywood. The med center had Diamond Jim's restaraunt on the corner. At 7:44 on the video counter is an open space and if I remember it was a Victorian type house set back from the street. I always was amazed that it had not been torn down and a building put there. Thanks for finding the video , nice to see Collectors Book Shop and Pickwick Books again.

Martin Pal Oct 26, 2018 4:35 PM

:previous:

Not sure if I've ever heard of that make of car before! What color is yours?

https://www.rodauthority.com/image/2...ollywood31.jpgRod Authority

Since PERRY MASON has been featured recently, I noticed this photo. Link info says:
1940-41 Graham Hollywood in Perry Mason, TV Series, 1957-1966, Ep. 1.16

https://www.imcdb.org/i205131.jpgIMCDB
IMCBD -- Did you know there was an Internet Movie Cars Database?

Handsome Stranger Oct 26, 2018 7:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8358478)
From Michael Locke on flickr:
Cotten-Elliott House, Michael Tolleson, Architect 1991

The abstract design attains an aesthetic balance...

Nope.

Handsome Stranger Oct 26, 2018 8:20 PM

'Tis the season!

https://i.postimg.cc/4yWQKw6X/pumpkin.jpg

Painting crew (at the left) creating the Union Oil pumpkin, Wilmington, 1952. I think this was the pumpkin's debut year.

[source: USC Digital Library]

Hollywood Graham Oct 26, 2018 10:58 PM

Hollywood Graham's Graham Hollywood
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8358790)
:previous:

Not sure if I've ever heard of that make of car before! What color is yours?

https://www.rodauthority.com/image/2...ollywood31.jpgRod Authority

Since PERRY MASON has been featured recently, I noticed this photo. Link info says:
1940-41 Graham Hollywood in Perry Mason, TV Series, 1957-1966, Ep. 1.16

https://www.imcdb.org/i205131.jpgIMCDB
IMCBD -- Did you know there was an Internet Movie Cars Database?

Mine is a street rod painted light lavender, someday I will paint it another color. The one you have pictured is an engineering marvel, the owner lives in Lake Havasu and owns a tool co..

ethereal_reality Oct 27, 2018 4:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tikiman (Post 8358448)

Good job Tikiman! :)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir Noir

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8358500)
Could this be the Fruit Basket hidden behind the pole and bush?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...uitBasket1.jpg

UNF***ING BELIEVABLE HOSS! :worship: YOU DA MAN!

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________







While looking at Tourmaline's post...I noticed the 'handle' of the 'basket' was lined with..what look like..COLORED LIGHTS!


Extreme Close-Up
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/2Hqfi4.jpg

There is also a larger light, similar to desk lamp, aimed upward toward the handle. :previous: (no doubt there's another light, like this larger one, on the opposite side)



Now let's back up just a bit so you can get your bearings.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/iUShxq.jpg
DETAIL

Thanks for your HELP everyone!



__after I cracked that whip...my minions delivered.

ethereal_reality Oct 27, 2018 5:16 AM

'mystery' crash site. [1938]


Here's an accident photograph from ebay. (have we seen this before?) if so, sorry.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/sj06U1.jpg
no longer listed / thus no link






Here's a closer look at the area in the upper left corner.

Note the large building, atop the hill, in the far distance. (a school maybe? mansion?)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/oI5Tf2.jpg
DETAIL

Does this area look familiar with anyone?




There are a couple clues on the back.

A man's name (perhaps the photographer)

Al Michael(?)m
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/SW4cGL.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...921/3k3pVB.jpg





and this stamp.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/1nBCX5.jpg

for search purposes: Please Credit ART STREIB 955 South Hope St. Los Angeles - MIchigan 2338.

? 6372 - 4


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ethereal_reality Oct 27, 2018 5:59 AM

Some things never change. :no:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/Fnhm6i.jpg
DETAIL originally posted by Tourmaline

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