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Zerton Apr 18, 2018 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by patriotizzy (Post 8159388)
I don't get the impression that too much is going on. What exactly is too much here?


Imo there are just too many materials/textures/elements. Imo the one I dislike most is the staggered multi-color stone facade element. That would look better if it matched the simpler metal facade.

The staggered ceiling recesses also clash with the staggered facade. They just aren't in harmony.

I like the chrome column and glass walls. I actually like a lot of these elements individually - but all together they just don't flow. This is just my subjective opinion, of course.


Ronan was actually a professor at my undergrad. Never took his studio though. Didn't know this was his. I usually love his stuff. He has a very clean, refined aesthetic. See the Poetry Foundation in Chicago. So this is kind of surprising.

dropdeaded209 Apr 21, 2018 6:25 AM

the shiny metal column, the atrocious stone "pattern" cladding at the base... yeah this one is a major misfire i wonder what happened. i think we were all expecting something at least refined from Ronan but... ugh no such luck.

left of center Apr 21, 2018 3:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 21C CHI>LA (Post 8162902)
we appreciate this type of attitude "breaking the rules" attitude in rock and rap, why not architecture?
bigger budgets and "dream" clients don't happen everyday.
i would have to think, yes, this building is WAY BETTER THAN THE WALGREEN'S (a recurrent theme here). so get over it.
and better than the bashing it's being given on this thread. so architect ronan, take it on the chin, dust yourself off and live to fight another day.

Breaking the rules is great and all (I don't see this building doing that?), but a rock or rap song that's a jumbled mess and doesn't go anywhere logically or stylistically doesn't make for a good, or even listenable, song. Same goes with architecture.

Yes, this building is better than the old two story Walgreens that was here. But almost anything else would have been quantitatively better than that previous use, that doesn't mean we have to settle for a dumpster fire of an office tower simply because it crossed the threshold of a bar that's been set very low.

I don't know about you, but I'm not simply happy to settle for whatever blasé design happens to ride into town. This is Chicago, not Topeka. We can and should be critical of architecture that does not contribute to or meet the standards of the city's rich architectural heritage.

rlw777 Apr 21, 2018 4:41 PM

Ok the patterned stone was a bad choice that clashes with the rest of the otherwise large seamless single color surfaces. The round column makes a lot more sense with rounded corners on the building which I'm guessing were VE'd. Otherwise it's a fantastic design. I think the cutout at the entrance that mirrors the park and overhang of the building to the west is really smart. Ronan is a fantastic architect but this design is not his best work.

ardecila Apr 21, 2018 8:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dropdeaded209 (Post 8162851)
the shiny metal column, the atrocious stone "pattern" cladding at the base... yeah this one is a major misfire i wonder what happened. i think we were all expecting something at least refined from Ronan but... ugh no such luck.

Refined? Not really the first word I'd use to describe Ronan's work.

Most people know the Poetry Foundation because it's downtown, and that one is pretty refined for obvious reasons, but most of his buildings are on the South Side and look like this... all brightly colored and funky, with syncopated rhythms and textures. The entry at CNA Center is exactly the kind of thing Ronan does, it just uses an office-building language of granite, brushed aluminum and glass.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2qlv8ep.jpg
http://i64.tinypic.com/2hmlama.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/k0pjz5.jpg

HowardL Apr 21, 2018 10:23 PM

Ever since the rounded corners got VE'd, I had been been rather meh about this tower. Every time I would walk past, it disappeared. It only reflected the sky and buildings around it.

Walked past about two weeks ago and the lobby changed my mind. It's interesting at street level. No gem but no dog either.

SolarWind Apr 23, 2018 2:31 AM

April 19, 2018


harryc Apr 28, 2018 12:56 PM

April 27



Not a morning building - I will have to get back in the afternoon.





the urban politician Apr 28, 2018 1:10 PM

The ground level is turning out decent, at least

KWillChicago Apr 29, 2018 1:57 PM

I hate to say it but this base turned out like garbage.


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