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GaylordWilshire Oct 13, 2012 4:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 5865111)

This photo, posted by ER, shows the above Herald Examiner sign in its glory. Curious about the "Sycamore Library" hiding directly under the Halsco Land Yacht sign - also the subject of an ER post.
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5...tosimonson.jpghttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=4396


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-a...2520AM.bmp.jpgLAPL

The Sycamore Rental Library was a private circulating library at 685 S Sycamore operated by Irene V. Ewins. Opened some time in the mid-'30s, it was still listed as late as 1960 as the "Sycamore Library and Card Shop." From Oct 1961 to as late as July 1973 the space was occupied by Sycamore Card & Gift...by 1987 it was Sycamore Shoe Repair. Over the years Mrs. Ewins moved from 1758 W 43rd St to 151 N Plymouth to 159 S Sycamore to 438½ S Detroit. Its seems that her husband John departed the scene sometime around the onset of the Depression--don't know if by death or divorce. After the couple and their daughter Shirley Anne had moved on up to Plymouth Boulevard, Irene moved to smaller places, perhaps opening the library as a widow's (or grass-widow's) way of making a living.

ethereal_reality Oct 13, 2012 8:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 5865469)


The J.J. Newberry building still stands on Hollywood Boulevard.

http://imageshack.us/a/img69/8977/aabnewberrytoday.jpg
google street view

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Wrightguy0 Oct 13, 2012 10:51 PM

^^^ one of Hollywood's finest buildings i might add

ethereal_reality Oct 13, 2012 11:24 PM

http://imageshack.us/a/img12/963/aabslide1960ebay.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img10/3427/aa...60viewebay.jpg
ebay
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ethereal_reality Oct 13, 2012 11:53 PM

Today and yesterday. North Hill Street.

http://imageshack.us/a/img835/8579/a...lestialhil.jpg
google street view


http://imageshack.us/a/img22/9307/aa...55celestia.jpg
ebay
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rick m Oct 13, 2012 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Los Angeles Past (Post 5862794)
"noirish Los Angeles - The Sequel" ?

French site Homodesiribus maxed out last month - then smoothly segued into Homodesiribus 2012 -- Not fuss , No muss ... Anywho ---

rcarlton Oct 14, 2012 12:30 AM

Here are some real characters I found on LAPL:

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics36/00052988.jpgLAPL
"Black Jack" Jerome Ward, one of the colorful riders of the celluloid range, is shown at his trial looking at a photo of Johnny Tyke, the man he is accused of slaying in Hollywood's "Gower Gulch," and holding his gun. Ward testified on July 18, 1940, that Tyke had pestered him continually. Movie cowboys testified that Tyke was "pizen mean" and that somebody "had to shoot him"

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics36/00052991.jpgLAPL
"Black Jack" Jerome Ward is shown being comforted on July 17, 1940, during a trial recess by his wife and Harry Sherman, producer of the "Hopalong Cassidy" western films. Sherman led a drive among screen cowboys to raise a fund to defend Ward.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics36/00052989.jpgLAPL
"Black Jack" Jerome Ward in court, shaking hands with Tex Cooper. Buddy Cox is sitting on his father, Victor Cox's, lap on March 4, 1940.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics37/00053016.jpgLAPL
"Black Jack" Jerome Ward, who was freed of charges of slaying Johnny Tyke in Hollywood's "Gower Gulch," is shown hatless at lower left being congratulated by fellow riders of the celluloid ranges. Behind Ward is his wife. Next to her stands Noah Beery, who stood by Ward in the trial.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics37/00053011.jpgLAPL
Long weeks in a cell having turned his outdoor tan into a prison pallor,"Black Jack" Jerome Ward is shown lighting a cigarette during a recess at his trial on July 18, 1940, on charges he killed Johnny Tyke in "Gower Gulch," where film cowboys wait studio calls. Both Ward and Tyke were riders of celluloid range, but Ward's pals say Tyke was so "pizen mean" he had to be shot by somebody.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics36/00052998.jpgLAPL
Three riding friends of "Black Jack" Jerome Ward in western films are shown discussing his case at court on July 15, 1940. Left to right, Phil Brady, Tex Cooper and Joe Schwartz. The screen cowboys took up a collection to provide Ward with a defense fund.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics36/00052993.jpgLAPL
"Black Jack" Jerome Ward and Buck Jones on July 18, 1940.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics37/00053014.jpgLAPL
Yukon Jake Jackson, wrestler and eyewitness to the shooting, is shown testifying on February 27, 1940. "I heard glass fly and gravel kick up and I knew it was a bullet that just went by my kisser." Asked if he knew the deceased, he looked blank and said: "Deceased? No, I don't know nobody by that name."

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics36/00052990.jpg
Tex Sherman, Victor Cox, Jim Shannon, and Leonard Hampton attend the funeral of Johnny Tyke on February 29, 1940.

Did some more digging and found this website with the story. Very interesting story, well worth reading.

Here's Yukon Jake wrestling.

More on Yukon Jake:
On February 15, 1937 near the intersection of Sunset Boulevard and La Baig Avenue in
Los Angeles, wrestler Yukon Jake (E.L. Jackson) was attacked by a robber wielding a
pipe. Jake was smashed over his head, receiving a two-inch cut, but Jake was used to
that kind of behavior. He proceeded to pummel the robber, placing him in the steamroller
twist, and slammed him to the concrete, according to the Los Angeles Times (2/16/37).
As it was usually the case when attacking a pro wrestler, the attacker picked the wrong
man on that particular night and paid the price.

Godzilla Oct 14, 2012 3:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5865777)
The J.J. Newberry building still stands on Hollywood Boulevard.
http://imageshack.us/a/img69/8977/aabnewberrytoday.jpg
google street view __

Had intended to state location "hidden." 6600 address is hidden in plain sight ;)

I looked through the entire thread and had assumed this icon had been posted. Sorry if this was a rerun!

It has been decades since visiting the building. I have wondered about some of the wrought iron decorating the second story windows. Shame it is gone. Same with the peninsula store front glass. Made the building that much more interesting. It appears that there were also vents/registers/grating inches above the sidewalk in the early photos that are not present in the current version of the building.

Another ca. '32 view, complete with dog and ghosts! Topper? :fruit:
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...ASN14A573H.jpg

http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1364/5...c914e002_b.jpgFlickr

Just a few miles east, similar footprint in noir Vanilla?
Alhambra's Main Street 1938
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0

http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org

Godzilla Oct 14, 2012 4:41 AM

1948 Main and First "Aldrick a RealLeader"
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...Q2A988ENRG.jpg

1951 Main and First
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...7I575YYP8Q.jpg

1964 "Ruby guilty."
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...1YNIUYMVHB.jpg

1968 boycott the Examiner?
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...GY2X5RQ68B.jpg All C.St.Lib

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...PCYMV2SR67.jpg

rcarlton Oct 14, 2012 2:03 PM

This is very strange:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics21/00030213.jpgLAPL
Gloria Graves, 19-year old girl whose idea of fun is to be "buried alive" for days in a steel coffin with only a narrow food and air shaft connecting her with the world, appeared in court and had her trial delayed. Miss Graves shows the court how she sleeps serenely in her coffin away from earth's turmoil.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics21/00030215.jpgLAPL
Diagram shows the facilities for how Gloria Graves lived in her underground casket.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics21/00030214.jpgLAPL
Gloria Graves, attractive "buried alive" girl, brought her crypt to court today and showed it to jurors and gaping spectators. She did it to prove she was harming no one, including herself, when she was buried alive for seven days, apparently in violation of a city ordinance against endurance contests. Photo shows Miss Graves in her specially constructed coffin in the courtroom. 1935.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics21/00030169.jpgLAPL
Photo of "Mr. Q", Robert M. Goodwin, a 57-year-old stage hypnotist. Arrow points him out standing beside Gloria Graves, the young woman whom he planned a "buried alive" act. Miss Graves lived in a lighted and ventilated casket underground for 14 days in November 1935, before police dug her up. 1939.

Now the story becomes noirish:

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics21/00030212.jpgLAPL
Photo of Robert Goodwin's widow, Mrs. Florence Goodwin, who was estranged from him at the time of his death. Mrs. Goodwin acted as a nurse for Gloria Graves in this strange episode. Photo shows her giving Miss Graves milk before the casket was lowered into the ground.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics21/00030196.jpgLAPL
Photo of "Mr. Q", Robert M. Goodwin, 57-year-old stage hypnotist who was shot and killed by Dr. Harold T. Edwards in a row partly over his asserted insult to a young woman with whom he planned a "buried alive" act.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics21/00030195.jpgLAPL
Photo of "Mr. Q's" widow, Mrs. Florence Goodwin, said to have assisted him in some of his stage exploits. Goodwin had been married eight times, and to four of those wives his "hypnotic" spell had been so strong that they married him even though they already had legal husbands.

rcarlton Oct 14, 2012 2:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 4815167)
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics03/00021278.jpg

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics03/00021225.jpg

Famous Arizona trunk murderess Winnie Ruth Judd--always
one of my favorite cases. I'd forgotten that L.A. figured into
the story. After dispatching two friends with whom she was
fighting (supposedly over a man), she packed up their remains
and left Phoenix for Los Angeles. Sharp-eyed (and -nosed)
baggage handlers in L.A. called the police, but La Judd took
off and was at large for a week before being arrested at (not
sure why) the Alvarez & Moore Funeral Chapel on Court
Street. She was extradited to Phoenix, where she stood
trial and was found guilty. The rest of her story is very
interesting--check it out.

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics03/00021213.jpg
Alvarez & Moore Funeral Chapel, Court St.


http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics03/00021199.jpg
L.A. County Jail booking slip


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics40/00054705.jpg
The trunks--there are pictures on the internet of the contents, but I'll
let you find them yourselves (think Betty Short).

All photos LAPL

Interesting case. Here are a few more pieces:

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics03/00021266.jpgLAPL
A bullet on a piece of gauze rests upon someone's hand. This is the bullet removed from Judd's hand. She claimed that Hedvig Samuelson shot her during a quarrel.

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics03/00021280.jpgLAPL
Jury verdict in the Winnie Ruth Judd murder case. The jury finds her "guilty of the crime of murder in the first degree, a felony, as alleged in the information, and fix the punishment at death." Signed by Stewart Thompson, jury foreman. Filed with the Superior Court of Maricopa County, Arizona on the 8th of February, 1932.

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics03/00021274.jpgLAPL
Winnie Ruth Judd as she hears the verdict finding her guilty of murder in the first degree. She yawned as words were read condemning her to death.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8335/8...5dda87ab_b.jpgLAPL
A poem and drawing of two lizards (?) under a cloud of death. Evidence from the Winnie Ruth Judd case, possibly drawn by her.

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics03/00021292.jpgLAPL
Winnie Ruth Judd in prison, awaiting news on whether she would hang, or be committed to a state mental hospital.

Subsequent unofficial investigations, most notably by investigative journalist Jana Bommersbach, revealed many people close to the investigation believed Judd was guilty only of killing in self-defense—what Judd had maintained all along—not of first-degree murder.

Winnie R. Judd, 93, Infamous As 1930's 'Trunk Murderess'
By RICHARD GOLDSTEIN
Published: October 27, 1998

Winnie Ruth Judd, who spent three decades in an Arizona state mental hospital as the notorious ''trunk murderess'' in one of the most sensational criminal cases of the 1930's, died in Phoenix on Friday. She was 93.

With the Great Depression at full strength in the fall of 1931 and newspapers vying for stories to take their readers' minds off their miseries, the lurid details of the Judd case proved irresistible. But the case also provoked a debate over capital punishment.

Mrs. Judd, then a 26-year-old secretary at a Phoenix medical clinic and the wife of a doctor, arrived at Union Station in Los Angeles on Oct. 18, 1931, on a train from Phoenix, accompanied by two trunks and several valises. When a baggage man noticed what appeared to be blood dripping from one trunk, he asked her to open it. Mrs. Judd said she did not have the key and left in an automobile driven by her brother, Burton McKinnell. The police were called and traced the car from the license plate.

Inside the larger trunk, detectives found the body of Agnes Anne LeRoi, 32. What they found in the smaller trunk catapulted the case into headline news around the country. It contained remains of Hedvig Samuelson, 24, her body neatly cut into three pieces to make it easier to pack. A few days later, a valise left behind by Mrs. Judd was found to contain a fourth body section.

The two women had been fatally shot the previous Friday night at a Phoenix residence they had previously shared with Mrs. Judd when her husband was out of town.

Four days after the bodies were discovered, Mrs. Judd was arrested in Los Angeles. She quickly became an object of curiosity. When she was returned to Phoenix for trial, thousands lined the streets for a glimpse, and the owner of the home where the murders occurred sold 10-cent tickets for tours.

Mrs. Judd maintained that she shot the women in self-defense when they attacked her during an argument, but prosecutors said that she entered the residence while the two slept, then shot them in the head out of jealousy over attentions paid to them by her married boyfriend.

Two years later, by then dubbed the ''trunk murderess'' and the ''tiger woman'' in headlines, Mrs. Judd was convicted of murdering Miss LeRoi and was sentenced to hang. Mrs. Judd was not tried for the murder of Miss Samuelson, so the question of who dismembered her body was never formally raised. There was later speculation that a local physician other than husband had performed the expert cutting.

Pressure was brought to spare Mrs. Judd's life in view of her claims of self-defense and her lawyer's assertions that she was mentally ill. Thirty state legislators and a group of 34 ministers and priests signed petitions, and Arizona authorities received several thousand letters on her behalf. Eleanor Roosevelt was among those expressing concern.

Several days before the hanging was to take place, a jury impaneled for a sanity hearing found that Mrs. Judd was then insane, and she was institutionalized. She escaped six times from the Arizona State Hospital for the Insane in Phoenix over the next two decades, maintaining later that a nurse had given her a key to the entrance that she hid in a coin holder and used in some escapes. She was taken back into custody within a short time on each occasion and otherwise proved a model patient, cooking for other patients and helping bathe them.

On Oct. 8, 1962, Mrs. Judd escaped yet again, this time disappearing for almost seven years. She was finally found in the San Francisco area, where, calling herself Marian Lane, she had worked as a housekeeper in a mansion owned by an elderly woman. The noted defense lawyer Melvin Belli took her case and fought unsuccessfully against extradition to Arizona.

Mrs. Judd was judged to be sane by medical examiners in Arizona, was transferred to the state penitentiary in Florence and was freed shortly before Christmas 1971. She returned to California to work for the family that had previously employed her, later lived in Stockton and then went back to Phoenix a few years before her death.

Sixty-seven years after the murders, the crime lives on. An Internet ''sightseeing tour'' of Phoenix has a photo of the site where the murders occurred (it is now a vacant lot between two homes) and advises that an apartment building where Mrs. Judd once lived is the site of a medical center.

A longtime friend, Kenneth Cain of Sun City, Ariz., said yesterday that Mrs. Judd had no immediate survivors.

In a letter she wrote in 1952, Mrs. Judd, an Indiana native and the daughter of a minister, called the dismemberment ''a ghastly deed'' but again maintained that she shot the two women in self-defense. She said that she transported the bodies because she was suffering from shock, but wrote, 'I've asked God many times to forgive me.'' The New York Times

rcarlton Oct 14, 2012 2:37 PM

Still looking for speakeasies:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics39/00039147.jpgLAPL
A police raid at a bar at 8480 Santa Monica Blvd., West Hollywood, on December 29, 1932.

Today:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8052/8...e7c1627c_b.jpgGE

BifRayRock Oct 14, 2012 4:15 PM

Sunset Plaza Apartments designed by Paul Williams in 1936

"In 1980, the City of Los Angeles added the Sunset Plaza Apartments to the list of Historic-Cultural Monuments. The building was demolished in July 1987."

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-v87A8e1Bcn...10eaf88a_b.jpghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-v87A8e1Bcn...10eaf88a_b.jpg

1949 Sunset Plaza Apts. Jewel burglary
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00081/00081916.jpglapl

Lwize Oct 14, 2012 9:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5866282)

Good thing her name wasn't Gloria Woodchipper.

ethereal_reality Oct 14, 2012 9:48 PM

:previous: Lol :)
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Marlin and Bob up in the mountains.

http://imageshack.us/a/img17/4659/aaebaysnap1943.jpg
ebay

Where might this precipice be? It looks a bit different than the usual 'Hollywood from the hills' photo.
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rick m Oct 15, 2012 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5866284)
Interesting case. Here are a few more pieces:

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics03/00021266.jpgLAPL
A bullet on a piece of gauze rests upon someone's hand. This is the bullet removed from Judd's hand. She claimed that Hedvig Samuelson shot her during a quarrel.

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics03/00021280.jpgLAPL
Jury verdict in the Winnie Ruth Judd murder case. The jury finds her "guilty of the crime of murder in the first degree, a felony, as alleged in the information, and fix the punishment at death." Signed by Stewart Thompson, jury foreman. Filed with the Superior Court of Maricopa County, Arizona on the 8th of February, 1932.

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics03/00021274.jpgLAPL
Winnie Ruth Judd as she hears the verdict finding her guilty of murder in the first degree. She yawned as words were read condemning her to death.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8335/8...5dda87ab_b.jpgLAPL
A poem and drawing of two lizards (?) under a cloud of death. Evidence from the Winnie Ruth Judd case, possibly drawn by her.

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics03/00021292.jpgLAPL
Winnie Ruth Judd in prison, awaiting news on whether she would hang, or be committed to a state mental hospital.

Subsequent unofficial investigations, most notably by investigative journalist Jana Bommersbach, revealed many people close to the investigation believed Judd was guilty only of killing in self-defense—what Judd had maintained all along—not of first-degree murder.

Winnie R. Judd, 93, Infamous As 1930's 'Trunk Murderess'
By RICHARD GOLDSTEIN
Published: October 27, 1998

Winnie Ruth Judd, who spent three decades in an Arizona state mental hospital as the notorious ''trunk murderess'' in one of the most sensational criminal cases of the 1930's, died in Phoenix on Friday. She was 93.

With the Great Depression at full strength in the fall of 1931 and newspapers vying for stories to take their readers' minds off their miseries, the lurid details of the Judd case proved irresistible. But the case also provoked a debate over capital punishment.

Mrs. Judd, then a 26-year-old secretary at a Phoenix medical clinic and the wife of a doctor, arrived at Union Station in Los Angeles on Oct. 18, 1931, on a train from Phoenix, accompanied by two trunks and several valises. When a baggage man noticed what appeared to be blood dripping from one trunk, he asked her to open it. Mrs. Judd said she did not have the key and left in an automobile driven by her brother, Burton McKinnell. The police were called and traced the car from the license plate.

Inside the larger trunk, detectives found the body of Agnes Anne LeRoi, 32. What they found in the smaller trunk catapulted the case into headline news around the country. It contained remains of Hedvig Samuelson, 24, her body neatly cut into three pieces to make it easier to pack. A few days later, a valise left behind by Mrs. Judd was found to contain a fourth body section.

The two women had been fatally shot the previous Friday night at a Phoenix residence they had previously shared with Mrs. Judd when her husband was out of town.

Four days after the bodies were discovered, Mrs. Judd was arrested in Los Angeles. She quickly became an object of curiosity. When she was returned to Phoenix for trial, thousands lined the streets for a glimpse, and the owner of the home where the murders occurred sold 10-cent tickets for tours.

Mrs. Judd maintained that she shot the women in self-defense when they attacked her during an argument, but prosecutors said that she entered the residence while the two slept, then shot them in the head out of jealousy over attentions paid to them by her married boyfriend.

Two years later, by then dubbed the ''trunk murderess'' and the ''tiger woman'' in headlines, Mrs. Judd was convicted of murdering Miss LeRoi and was sentenced to hang. Mrs. Judd was not tried for the murder of Miss Samuelson, so the question of who dismembered her body was never formally raised. There was later speculation that a local physician other than husband had performed the expert cutting.

Pressure was brought to spare Mrs. Judd's life in view of her claims of self-defense and her lawyer's assertions that she was mentally ill. Thirty state legislators and a group of 34 ministers and priests signed petitions, and Arizona authorities received several thousand letters on her behalf. Eleanor Roosevelt was among those expressing concern.

Several days before the hanging was to take place, a jury impaneled for a sanity hearing found that Mrs. Judd was then insane, and she was institutionalized. She escaped six times from the Arizona State Hospital for the Insane in Phoenix over the next two decades, maintaining later that a nurse had given her a key to the entrance that she hid in a coin holder and used in some escapes. She was taken back into custody within a short time on each occasion and otherwise proved a model patient, cooking for other patients and helping bathe them.

On Oct. 8, 1962, Mrs. Judd escaped yet again, this time disappearing for almost seven years. She was finally found in the San Francisco area, where, calling herself Marian Lane, she had worked as a housekeeper in a mansion owned by an elderly woman. The noted defense lawyer Melvin Belli took her case and fought unsuccessfully against extradition to Arizona.

Mrs. Judd was judged to be sane by medical examiners in Arizona, was transferred to the state penitentiary in Florence and was freed shortly before Christmas 1971. She returned to California to work for the family that had previously employed her, later lived in Stockton and then went back to Phoenix a few years before her death.

Sixty-seven years after the murders, the crime lives on. An Internet ''sightseeing tour'' of Phoenix has a photo of the site where the murders occurred (it is now a vacant lot between two homes) and advises that an apartment building where Mrs. Judd once lived is the site of a medical center.

A longtime friend, Kenneth Cain of Sun City, Ariz., said yesterday that Mrs. Judd had no immediate survivors.

In a letter she wrote in 1952, Mrs. Judd, an Indiana native and the daughter of a minister, called the dismemberment ''a ghastly deed'' but again maintained that she shot the two women in self-defense. She said that she transported the bodies because she was suffering from shock, but wrote, 'I've asked God many times to forgive me.'' The New York Times

Found in the heavy photo file in LAPL Central :Winnie's husband spots her on leaving a moviehouse near Pershing Square and immediately convinced her to an impromptu press announcement of her innocence at the quietest locale he could imagine- the mortuary up on Court St. Perhaps a staffer up there or one of the news reporters contacted LAPD- who arrested her before she could speak-- Only moment of newsiness up at Alvarez and Moore....

ethereal_reality Oct 15, 2012 1:52 AM

A postcard showing a zanja on West Adams Street.

http://imageshack.us/a/img43/4245/pc...reetshowin.jpg
ebay


Click on the link below to see GaylordWilshire's very interesting post on zanjas.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1843

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rcarlton Oct 15, 2012 3:21 PM

My final word on the Winnie Ruth Judd case. This link is to a video showing her describe what happened in her own words. Now let's dig up some noirish buildings (and solve the Thelma Todd, Jean Elizabeth Spangler and Diane Sparks murders).

Here are a few more videos.
Marionettes.
School project
Where is Winnie Ruth Judd buried?
Winnie Ruth Judd Murder Cottage
Murderess "Talkie" Trailer
BAGGAGE CLAIM (Winnie Ruth Judd)

http://jsethanderson.com/wp-content/...p-794x1024.jpgBoy Meets Blog

GaylordWilshire Oct 15, 2012 5:52 PM

As for Winnie Ruth Judd's Los Angeles connections...


http://imageshack.us/a/img163/1640/burtonmckinnell.jpgChalise Crowder

Her brother, Burton Joy McKinnell, apparently unaware of his sister's deeds or of the dripping trunks left at the curb, picked her up at the station in L.A. At the time Burton was attending or had recently been graduated from U.S.C., and had lived at several West 36th Street addresses in recent years (none of which appear to survive). (In 1930 he was enumerated both in L.A.—with a fellow named Wayne Snow described as his "parder"—and in Darlington, Indiana, under his mother.)


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-W...2520PM.bmp.jpghttp://yearbooks.com

Not hard to pick Burton out of a crowd... as with the pic at top, the resemblance to his sister, who was a year older, is clear.

Now for a little bit of added noir... in the shot of the 1928 U.S.C. freshman debate squad above I noticed a familiar name... that of a man who would become the go-to guy for Hollywood figures who found themselves in scrapes. While I just assumed, given his fame and studly accomplishments—he was apparently once engaged to such Hollywood offscreen-noir favorites as Lana Turner and Barbara Payton and had sack time with everyone else from Joan to Ava to Ginger—that we must have seen him here before, I could find nothing on him with the search feature.

http://imageshack.us/a/img132/7334/0b0vxzquqxgh0h0q.jpghttp://imdb.com
Greg Bautzer and Lucille.


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-p...2520PM.bmp.jpghttp://findagrave.com
Burton McKinnell is buried at Inglewood Park Cemetery

Silverlaker Oct 15, 2012 6:28 PM

The Mysterious/Glamorous Broom Room
 
Wich Stand's Broom Room.
http://www.synthetrix.com/cool/WichStand_BroomRoom.jpghttp://www.synthetrix.com/cool/wsmm/match3.jpghttp://www.synthetrix.com[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Well, after years of lurking and enjoying this site, a reference to some personal noir prompted me to sign up and post a note

As a kid in the 70's we would often walk to the Wich Stand at Slauson and Overhill with Grandma. The Broom Room cocktail lounge was an endless source of fascination for my young mind...full of the glamorous promise of adulthood. On the pretext of having to use the restroom I would go back near the entrance to the Wich Stand where on a lava rock wall a series of glass encased miniature brooms (chimney sweep, witches broom, whisk etc.) let one to large side door that opened on a mysterious and magical secret world....The Broom Room Cocktail Lounge!

I would dare to open that door and peek my head in and OH! the glamour, the sophistication, the sex appeal! My own little secret garden! A dimly lit room with lots of twinkling sparkling lights like stars. Red leather booths and a cocktail bar with shiny bottles behind. Adult music playing and glamorous adults smoking at the bar talking to the sexy bar maid. It represented all that was secret and magical to my young mind - a world known only to adults and I just loved to get a glimpse of it, if only fleeting. I'd imagine myself one day walking in there and chatting with these urbane sophisticates!

In hindsight now as an adult I know now it was probably just a dingy dive bar attached to a coffee shop and the patrons drinking therein on a Sunday morning were probably just old drunks chatting up a tired old female bartender....but part of me is still that young boy poking his head in and getting a peak at a glamorous and aspirational world of magic and sophistication. I wish it were still there - or maybe not. Maybe some things are best left to the magic of memory!


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