Originally Posted by Phil McAvity (Post 9354093)

And the most common sense, just as many of those with plenty of education possess little common sense which is precisely why you disagree with everything i've ever said. In fact you're so consistent, if you ever agreed with me on anything I would immediately know your account has been hacked

Originally Posted by Phil McAvity (Post 9353549)

I agree, if I get hospitalized because of my refusal to get vaccinated, triage should place me at the end of the line, although many of you believe I should be denied treatment altogether (although I think that's a silly wish because I highly doubt hospitals can turn people away) however the odds of my being hospitalized due to covid are incredibly low which has been my point all along-so low in fact that they're not even worthy of consideration. This is a simple matter of probability and to say the odds are in my favor is the ultimate understatement because where I live right now there is 1 covid patient in hospital out of 870,000 people but many of you here either don't understand math or don't care about it, instead adamantly insisting that it's possible that I could get killed by covid and while that's true, it's also possible I could get killed by a vending machine machine landing on me and i'm as worried about one as I am the other. All of life is a series of calculations of risk versus reward yet for some reason that line of reasoning has been cast aside during the pandemic in our zeal to save everyone from getting sick

Having said all that I was listening to Dr. Drew Pinsky on a podcast today and he said he's a strong advocate for vaccination which really surprised me as he's not only a renowned physician but he also got covid and became a long hauler so he not only has extensive knowledge about the virus but also an insider's perspective on having it. Granted most that get covid will not end up being long haulers but if you are one of those unlucky individuals, it sounds rough

Originally Posted by Phil McAvity (Post 9354104)

Yes, i'm really going to explain myself when you've already made up your mind i'm an idiot not to mention the fact i've already explained the reasons why numerous times. Here's a tip-if you're actually interested in asking someone a question, refrain from insulting them

Originally Posted by Phil McAvity (Post 9354089)

You, like most people here, have no idea how difficult that would be as there are 52 cases of covid right now out of a population of 870,000 people which means that 0.006% of the population have covid. That means that I would have to kiss tens of thousands of people to realistically even have a chance of getting covid and the odds of getting something much worse than covid from kissing that many people would be a far greater concern

Originally Posted by Phil McAvity (Post 9354131)

I live in Canada, on Vancouver Island which has always had an unusually low rate of infection, probably because we're kind of isolated


So i'm a complete buffoon for refusing to get vaccinated against a virus that basically doesn't exist (0.006% of people have it where I live) and even if by some miracle I do contract it, i'll probably only experience mild to moderate symptoms. No, on the contrary, I think you and the rest of society have bought the propaganda and fear-mongering in spite of science, logic and probability. It's clear that covid is not dangerous but few at this site understand that but if all I knew was that it had killed over 600,000 Americans (without knowing anything else about the victims or virus), i'd probably rush out and get vaccinated too not to mention the fact that "news" agencies like CNN and MSNBC are constantly ginning up the fear

Originally Posted by Phil McAvity (Post 9354104)

Yes, it's abundantly clear that most here disagree with me but you seem to equate that with being wrong but it doesn't prove that. What about the tiny % of Germans like Oskar Schindler that covertly defied the Nazi's? Were they wrong too? Most of you here are living proof that common sense is on it's deathbed

Originally Posted by MolsonExport (Post 9354225)

so you are describing yourself as some kind of hero in the same company as Oskar Schindler?

Originally Posted by austlar1 (Post 9354103)

An osteopathic (DO) doctor friend of mine up in DFW is really pumping Ivermectin both as a covid preventative and as a recommended treatment for early infections. She said that she's treated over 100 people with covid using this drug, and none have been hospitalized. I am 75 years old. My Moderna two shot vaccination was administered at the end of February. I noticed that Israel is now recommending a third shot for those over 60 vaccinated with Pfizer vaccine more that five months ago. I'm seriously considering starting a prophylactic regimen with Ivermectin. My dogs tolerate it very well for a monthly heartworm preventative, so there is that. Any thoughts on this ??

Originally Posted by Phil McAvity (Post 9354198)

My "misguided" reason for not getting vaccinated is because everyone i've ever spoken to that has been vaccinated reported unpleasant side effects. I'll pass on those thanks particularly since I have pretty much no chance of getting covid

Originally Posted by JManc (Post 9354265)

Isn't that only used (Ivermectin) if you're actively fighting off Covid? One of my friends had a bad bout with it (and almost died) and was given a regimen of Ivermectin for a about a week or so. From what I understand, it's pretty controversial to administer and many doctors won't prescribe it.

Originally Posted by MolsonExport (Post 9354225)

so you are describing yourself as some kind of hero in the same company as Oskar Schindler?

Originally Posted by Phil McAvity (Post 9354198)

Yeah because you've bought the hysteria and fear-mongering but I figured out about a year ago, that that's all it was and that this virus isn't dangerous which i've proved in the countless posts i've made in this thread. What I have yet to see in this discussion is proof that covid is dangerous, not one person here has articulated that

Originally Posted by austlar1 (Post 9354346)

Ivermectin is very controversial mostly due to lack of clinical studies for prophylactic use. It is apparently used in many hospital settings to treat newly admitted patients with good results, and there have now been several clinical studies that seem to back up that assertion. How did your friend do on Ivermectin? My doctor friend just provided me with a prescription, and I am thinking about taking it as a prophylactic, or I may just keep it handy in the event I actually get sick. I haven't decided yet. I'll happily take a third vaccination if and when they become available. We just hit Stage 5 (highest level of precaution) here in Travis County/Austin today. Supposedly only about a dozen available ICU beds, which seems strange to me since the number hospitalized is still well below the raw numbers from this past winter.

Originally Posted by SlidellWx (Post 9354406)

Mask mandate back in effect in New Orleans despite 55% fully vaccinated in the city. Mainly due to exploding cases in surrounding parishes and states since we get a lot of visitors. No other restrictions, so everything is open as usual. Several music clubs and restaurants are now only allowing fully vaxxed inside which I fully support.