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exit2lef Apr 1, 2015 8:35 PM

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Originally Posted by combusean (Post 6973817)
Vanishing Phoenix reports that the Wilcox House at 314 E Roosevelt is being moved across the street today.

I went up there during my lunch break and verified that this is for real. Here's a photo of the house being raised off the ground and prepared for its short trip across the street.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/SD...w276-h207-p-no

In my view, this is a win-win. The house, which was right in the middle of a mostly-vacant block appropriate for higher density development, will be preserved. At the same time, a small vacant lot across the street, too small for most projects, will be filled in.

My dream scenario now would be for the entire middle of the block on the north side to be filled in with multi-story residential. The structures immediately to the east and west, however, would be preserved. To the west is the Canvas building, which, after several false starts, is now home to a thriving restaurant, Paz Cantina. To the east is the 420 E Roosevelt building, which is part of a row of vintage structures along 5th Street. It could be repurposed for a more productive use than acting as the mailing address for a lawyer who works primarily off site.

PHX31 Apr 1, 2015 8:38 PM

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Originally Posted by exit2lef (Post 6974059)
In my view, this is a win-win. The house, which was right in the middle of a mostly-vacant block appropriate for higher density development, will be preserved. At the same time, a small vacant lot across the street, too small for most projects, will be filled in.

I agree. I've always admired this house, even though it's been kind of hidden in plain sight up next to the canvas buildings and the various awnings along the side and back. It will be great to fill in a chunk on the south side of Roosevelt. But again, do you know the exact lot it's going to? East of, west of, south/southwest of Modified Arts?

exit2lef Apr 1, 2015 8:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PHX31 (Post 6974067)
I agree. I've always admired this house, even though it's been kind of hidden in plain sight up next to the canvas buildings and the various awnings along the side and back. It will be great to fill in a chunk on the south side of Roosevelt. But again, do you know the exact lot it's going to? East of, west of, south/southwest of Modified Arts?

Northeast corner of 4th St & Roosevelt -- immediately west of Modified

biggus diggus Apr 2, 2015 3:14 AM

Explains what the foundation I saw being poured at that location is for. I won't be convinced any apartments are being built until I see something going vertical.

Jjs5056 Apr 2, 2015 4:23 AM

^ There are no current plans to build apartments on the former site of 314 E Roosevelt. There were talks about a month ago that the property (which includes the empty lot fronting Roosevelt, the empty lot facing 3rd Street, and Canvas/Paz Cantina) was going to be purchased by Wood Partners (the developers behind Alta Fillmore going in at 7th Ave/Fillmore, and Alta Phoenix Lofts aka Skyline Lofts at 3rd St/Fillmore), but they never closed on the sale (likely due to the amount of controversy their original preliminary renderings, which showed Canvas, 314 and 420 E Roosevelt being demolished for single-use 4-story apartments) stirred.

I agree this is a win-win for the time being, but it certainly depends on whether 314 finds a new tenant once it settles in, and whether any future proposal on the northern property maintains the existing buildings on the site. I would love to see some kind of restaurant/bar/cafe in the 314 house (something engaging rather than a more private use like a studio), along with 5-6 story residential with live/work units fronting Roosevelt.

As for Capital Place, they are located on 11th and 12th Streets and Washington, just east of downtown. As far as I know, there is no retail included on the ground level (a post on the last page alluded to retail and banks/financial institutions). No clue on the name - I remember at one point the developer talked about the neighborhood taking on the name "Capital Place" and people here being annoyed because it already has a name, Eastlake.

Related Project
There was a site review planned for 4/1 for: The Presidential: A development located on the northeast corner of 11th Street & Jefferson Street. It's from the same original property owner as Capital Place(s) and the name suggests that 'Capital Place' was chosen as one in a series of a theme that plays off Phoenix being the capital of the state, the Presidential streets of downtown, etc. The project includes 90 condo units in 4 stories being built between Washington and Jefferson. The Jefferson frontage contains 6 live-work units while the Washington frontage includes shell space for commercial/retail uses.

http://lrarealestate.com/wp-content/...ential-PUD.pdf

HooverDam Apr 2, 2015 3:08 PM

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Originally Posted by exit2lef (Post 6974059)
I went up there during my lunch break and verified that this is for real. Here's a photo of the house being raised off the ground and prepared for its short trip across the street.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/SD...w276-h207-p-no

In my view, this is a win-win. The house, which was right in the middle of a mostly-vacant block appropriate for higher density development, will be preserved. At the same time, a small vacant lot across the street, too small for most projects, will be filled in.

My dream scenario now would be for the entire middle of the block on the north side to be filled in with multi-story residential. The structures immediately to the east and west, however, would be preserved. To the west is the Canvas building, which, after several false starts, is now home to a thriving restaurant, Paz Cantina. To the east is the 420 E Roosevelt building, which is part of a row of vintage structures along 5th Street. It could be repurposed for a more productive use than acting as the mailing address for a lawyer who works primarily off site.


Agreed all around.

PHXFlyer11 Apr 2, 2015 3:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jjs5056 (Post 6974599)
Related Project
There was a site review planned for 4/1 for: The Presidential: A development located on the northeast corner of 11th Street & Jefferson Street. It's from the same original property owner as Capital Place(s) and the name suggests that 'Capital Place' was chosen as one in a series of a theme that plays off Phoenix being the capital of the state, the Presidential streets of downtown, etc. The project includes 90 condo units in 4 stories being built between Washington and Jefferson. The Jefferson frontage contains 6 live-work units while the Washington frontage includes shell space for commercial/retail uses.

http://lrarealestate.com/wp-content/...ential-PUD.pdf

Cool project, I wonder if this will happen. It would be great to see a bunch of 4-6 story building develop East of 7th st.

PHX31 Apr 2, 2015 6:23 PM

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Originally Posted by exit2lef (Post 6974059)
I went up there during my lunch break and verified that this is for real. Here's a photo of the house being raised off the ground and prepared for its short trip across the street.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/SD...w276-h207-p-no

I just took a couple pictures today after a meeting...

The foundation has been poured across the street. It will be located on the western side of the lot, located closer to the Roosevelt/4th Ave intersection than it will be to Modified Arts. Which is fine, it will allow seating or something to go on between Modified and the house.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...101534%201.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...101604%201.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...402_101644.jpg

Also of note: Looks like the construction of The Union is even more imminent... there was a temporary sprinkler system that had watered down the lot, presumably for dust control.

PHXFlyer11 Apr 2, 2015 7:41 PM

Portland on the Park to break ground April 7! http://downtownphoenixjournal.com/20...-break-ground/

combusean Apr 2, 2015 9:35 PM

Htf does something get that tagged up that quick?

Jjs5056 Apr 2, 2015 10:19 PM

2nd Street and Moreland condos have a name: En[hance]

Looks to be a 5-story complex of apartments and live/work condos. I really think that's a great fit for the area, and it would be a huge win to gain some density adjacent to Hance Park.

https://www.facebook.com/enhancepark

Obadno Apr 2, 2015 10:39 PM

HOLY SHIT!


This is what IM talking about so many residential projects going up its like 07-08 all over.:cheers:

I would prefer these smaller 3-6 story buildings filling in the empty lots around Roosevelt etc. Once there is more density bigger buildings will come. This is the kid of development Phoenix needs to encourage!

exit2lef Apr 2, 2015 10:55 PM

I didn't even know that project was coming. It's great news because the Hance Park plans won't work out unless there's density around the area. In addition, a lot of the skid row element comes from the lack of legitimate activity nearby. Put residences around, and it becomes a less attractive venue for some of the shady stuff that now occurs there.

PHXFlyer11 Apr 2, 2015 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Obadno (Post 6975660)
HOLY SHIT!


This is what IM talking about so many residential projects going up its like 07-08 all over.:cheers:

I would prefer these smaller 3-6 story buildings filling in the empty lots around Roosevelt etc. Once there is more density bigger buildings will come. This is the kid of development Phoenix needs to encourage!

This is fun now guys. The best part is I think all of our skepticism is starting to fade more and more as we see these projects continue to break ground! I feel a domino effect coming here because 1) the economy is improved, but still growing slowly 2) these smaller, more realistic and sustainable project and lower risk and diversified

Jjs5056 Apr 2, 2015 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by exit2lef (Post 6975684)
I didn't even know that project was coming. It's great news because the Hance Park plans won't work out unless there's density around the area. In addition, a lot of the skid row element comes from the lack of legitimate activity nearby. Put residences around, and it becomes a less attractive venue for some of the shady stuff that now occurs there.

Yes, exactly. And, hopefully the condos at 2nd St/Portland get built as well and add even more density to the area. Maybe that'll inspire something to be done with the Knipe House?

biggus diggus Apr 3, 2015 1:24 AM

Until that project breaks ground I won't believe it. Call me cynical, but I've lived downtown for over a decade and despite the feeling that it may have reached critical mass, I still can't forget all the times my hopes were slashed.

Jjs5056 Apr 3, 2015 1:50 AM

I don't blame you given the fact that the majority of planned projects last cycle fell through, and most of the proposals for residential development this time around have been sitting around since 2013 or so. The location is also pretty risky.

But, I have heard about it for quite some time, and I believe they are scheduled to break ground in the spring, so we'll see soon if it's real. I think there is definitely demand for housing, and especially live/work units in that area.

TakeFive Apr 3, 2015 4:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jjs5056 (Post 6966858)
. An additional brewery and 6 local restaurants would have a tremendous impact on the area surrounding the stadium, whether on Jackson of Jefferson. Instead of putting these businesses on the street and encouraging people to walk, explore and experience the immediate area, they'll be inside a walled off stadium. It's a completely suburban approach.

Local businesses didn't open up in Coors Field. They opened in the warehouses surrounding it and eventually created a vibrant district of Denver's downtown. Yankee Stadium, Coors Field, Miller Park, etc. don't have these kind of restaurant options, food trucks, or same level of retail. And, if they did - they could afford to because there's already an established urban scene surrounding them. I mean, how can you argue that shopping on Jefferson wouldn't be better if there was a Nike store? Or, eating on Jackson wouldn't be better if 6 local restaurants opened there?

Call it the curse of Phoenix if you like. I think it was Oriole Park at Camden Yards that started the retro park trend when it opened in 1992. Other cities then copied their success by opening retro parks in downtown neighborhoods.

Due to seasonal differences Phoenix couldn't do the same. They needed a roof. Downtown in summer isn't so hospitable as in other cities.

As far as your vision it can still play out and I trust it will in time.

TakeFive Apr 3, 2015 4:47 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnyb588 (Post 6966181)
Tell me about it. A big problem with initiatives like complete streets is that it's so new that most people in the design field have very little experience to understand what works and what doesn't work in certain application. A complete street is not an exact science at all, and I think that when certain folks within a city's government see it done one way, they assume that THE way it needs to be done for their city without opening the door to other possibilities. That's how you end up with something like 1st St.

Your comment triggered a response so I copied your comment to the transportation thread HERE.

TakeFive Apr 3, 2015 5:14 AM

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Originally Posted by PhxER (Post 6973629)
Shipping Container Apartments
http://www.jetsongreen.com/wp-conten...015/03/ext.png

The complex is called Containers on Grand and is located at 12th Avenue and Grand Avenue, in Phoenix.
A total of 16 decommissioned shipping containers will be used to build eight apartment units. Each of the
apartments will be made of 2 recycled shipping containers, yielding 740 square feet per apartment.

The architects will keep the floor plan open and modern, while at the same time celebrating the fact that
shipping containers were used to build these homes. The apartments will all be one-bedroom units. A kitchen
island will be located in the middle of each apartment, with a large living area on one side of it and the
bedroom and bathroom on the other. To achieve adequate space, one of the longer sides of each container
will be cut away and two containers will then be welded together to form a single apartment.

http://www.jetsongreen.com/wp-conten...15/03/plan.png


Source


Just for grins there's this:

http://2uec1mzw3qc42yelv1w8xtj13zp.w.../2014/10/5.jpg
Courtesy of greenbuildingelements.com
For anyone who's curious there's 21 slides in the DC Business Journal of what was done there.


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