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Rizzo Jun 4, 2013 5:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Guiltyspark (Post 6151426)
Recent studies have shown these new plans to be horribly inefficient due to the number of visual and auditory distractions. It may be good for creative work, but for insurance and the like, not so much.

Yes, the open office plan doesn't work for all companies, especially places that deal with privacy. But it's striking a balance between well daylit environments, good airflow, and sound control. Being in a tall enclosure with low ceilings and static air isn't good for productivity either.

Not all studies cover the age of employees. I'm willing to bet the younger generations are more adapted to open offices. It's a generation that is wired to their phones listening to music. It's not hard to put up that psychological wall around you and stay focused.

A well designed office will supplement plenty of small enclosed conference rooms for employees to handle private conversations.

I'm willing to accept a diminishing trend when furniture manufactures dominate their product line with high wall office systems, but they aren't.

Guiltyspark Jul 4, 2013 2:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hayward (Post 6152592)
Yes, the open office plan doesn't work for all companies, especially places that deal with privacy. But it's striking a balance between well daylit environments, good airflow, and sound control. Being in a tall enclosure with low ceilings and static air isn't good for productivity either.

Not all studies cover the age of employees. I'm willing to bet the younger generations are more adapted to open offices. It's a generation that is wired to their phones listening to music. It's not hard to put up that psychological wall around you and stay focused.

A well designed office will supplement plenty of small enclosed conference rooms for employees to handle private conversations.

I'm willing to accept a diminishing trend when furniture manufactures dominate their product line with high wall office systems, but they aren't.

Well I am 26 and still at University, so I have some perspective on that. When I was studying architecture in an open studio with 15 other students that I could bounce ideas around with, it was great. When I am at the library studying pharmacology and everyone else around me is talking, playing music and movies, it's not so great.

chris08876 Aug 29, 2014 4:53 PM

Any word on this project? Emporis states it as a stale proposal. I want to add it to YIMBY as we created a Chicago section, but I'm debating if I should add it or not?

rgolch Aug 29, 2014 5:34 PM

I think someone posted in the Highrise thread that they were doing soil testing. Anyone wanna confirm?

Skyguy_7 Aug 29, 2014 5:55 PM

^^ There has been ongoing soil testing at the site for two weeks, but it's really anyone's guess..
http://www.chicagoarchitecture.org/2...ew-skyscraper/

harryc Aug 29, 2014 6:39 PM

Yesterday
 

colemonkee Aug 30, 2014 12:42 AM

Harry, your are reliably consistent. That woman in the black top and polka-dotten skirt is HOT. ;)

munchymunch Aug 30, 2014 1:11 AM

Wait is that... Donald

wierdaaron Nov 10, 2014 8:10 PM

Has anyone heard anything about 130 N Franklin lately? I've been hearing it's moving forward but nothing about start/end dates.

http://picture.phorio.com/photo/5336...t,-Chicago.jpg

edit: Didn't know it had a thread already: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=199537

sentinel Nov 11, 2014 6:59 PM

According to our beloved Aaron, 130 N. Franklin MIGHT start construction this coming Spring??

Aaron, do you know if the original K+S renderings are still legit?

wierdaaron Nov 11, 2014 7:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sentinel (Post 6803618)
Aaron, do you know if the original K+S renderings are still legit?

I think there's a few Aarons here, but I'm guessing I'm the only one who wrote a story about that building today so you might mean me.

http://chicago.curbed.com/archives/2...ng-forward.php

We had a knowledgeable source say that it was moving forward, Reilly's office wouldn't confirm, so it's technically a rumor still. I haven't seen any updated renders. I'm afraid that will get VE'd into a turquoise rectangle, but all of the firms involved (tishman speyer, kreuk & sexton, gensler, thornton tomasetti) are big fish with lots of signature building experience between them, so I'm hopeful it'll be built as-designed.

LouisVanDerWright Nov 11, 2014 7:10 PM

This is the baddest ass of all the images of the building:

http://chicago.curbed.com/uploads/Sc...52.12%20AM.png

From our friends at chicago.curbed.com

SamInTheLoop Nov 11, 2014 7:31 PM

^ Nice. Just as RiverPoint and 150 kicked off this office construction cycle at nearly the same time, I really think we're going to have 151 and 130 Franklin both join the party in similar fashion in the near future............the Randolph/Franklin cluster, a rapid-fire second act to the Confluence office cluster....

LouisVanDerWright Nov 11, 2014 8:22 PM

^^^ Yeah, with 150 N Riverside 60% leased, the other developers with projects in the pipeline are licking their chops and trying to get to the front of line for the next wave of leasing to hit the market. O'Donnell is probably kicking himself for not setting up the foundations to take even more floors than he has been rumored to add. He would be able to possibly lock out another tower from the market for another year or two if he had more space available. The leasing numbers for 150 N Riverside are extremely impressive so far, looks like adventurous design is winning out over middle of the road design in this cycle. Oh well, better to completely sell out a project early than aim too high and crash and burn.

Via Chicago Nov 11, 2014 8:31 PM

wish this tapered off at the top. as it stands looks too bulky/squat. i guess the "shard" thing has been done to death but it would still look a little more sleek.

nothing on this site will ever make up for losing the stock exchange, but not much that can be done about that in 2014. boring generic blue glass office tower it is!

LouisVanDerWright Nov 11, 2014 11:38 PM

At least this design has the potential to be at least a somewhat worth successor to the CSX. Obviously no landmark can ever totally make up for something unique that was lost, but Chicago at least has a habit of replacing priceless landmarks with new priceless landmarks. This building could turn out quite fantastic if they use a high quality facade system.

rlw777 Nov 12, 2014 3:15 AM

I hope they keep this design this may turn out to be quite the diverse cycle for office towers.

wierdaaron Nov 12, 2014 3:36 AM

I don't think I've been this in love with a new tower design in a while. The two river offices being built aren't bad-looking and I'm very excited about the confluence getting filled out finally, but they don't really speak to me as expressions of art the way this does.

The real tragedy is that this will get lost in the skyline from any vantage. It deserves a better stage, like the river or fronting the park, where people would get to experience it in context and not only looking straight up at it from the sidewalk below it.

I know Spertus made a lot of people start to think differently about aesthetics of material and nonconventional forms, and I hope this moves that school forward. I think it's a great response to the recent "sliced glass" trend a la One11, Optima, and Loews hotel, without being too purposely contrarian like post-modernism was to modernism.

I'm going to start wishlisting buildings for immediate demolition to give this thing more visibility.

ardecila Nov 12, 2014 3:45 AM

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Originally Posted by wierdaaron (Post 6804157)
The real tragedy is that this will get lost in the skyline from any vantage. It deserves a better stage, like the river or fronting the park, where people would get to experience it in context and not only looking straight up at it from the sidewalk below it.

155 N Wacker's parklet and 130's low-rise bustle should provide enough vantage from the north.

225 West Randolph also has a generous setback on the Franklin and Randolph sides, so there will be pretty good views of this thing.

munchymunch Nov 12, 2014 4:09 AM

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Originally Posted by wierdaaron (Post 6804157)
I don't think I've been this in love with a new tower design in a while. The two river offices being built aren't bad-looking and I'm very excited about the confluence getting filled out finally, but they don't really speak to me as expressions of art the way this does.


Yes it is quite sexy.

Did the person you talk to confirm the height? I'm just wondering about any design change, which would be disappointing in my mind.


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