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ethereal_reality Apr 14, 2013 1:51 AM

As we now know 726 Garland Avenue.

http://imageshack.us/a/img15/2261/aa...andavebyjo.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13937


I think our best chance of locating the Garland Hall Apartments would be from aerials. I've included two examples that include the west side
of the Harbor Freeway. (it took me awhile to dig these up)

http://imageshack.us/a/img89/1205/aa...chbankofax.jpg
http://www.library.ucla.edu/ucla-university-archives



1960s
http://imageshack.us/a/img16/4582/aa...rchcolor19.jpg
found on an old cd of mine

-To be honest, I think the Garland Hall Apartments would be slightly south of these two examples...but I could be wrong .
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ethereal_reality Apr 14, 2013 2:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6044212)
1745 E. Seventh Street - Walnut Growers' Bldg.


Circa '24
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics23/00031479.jpgLapl

Circa '38
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics30/00064872.jpg Lapl

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Los Angeles 1929. -weighting Diamond walnuts. (I bet she's a flapper at night)

http://imageshack.us/a/img19/859/aab...ghtingwaln.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=427
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Flyingwedge Apr 14, 2013 3:00 AM

Sanchez Adobe photos from 1920s, 1930s, 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6089992)
Baldwin Hills is in the western part of Rancho La Cienega o Paso de la Tijera (My sister used to work at the corner of "Swamp and Scissors", as she termed it.). This was just one of the properties lost by FPF Temple when Lucky Baldwin foreclosed on the loan for the Temple & Workman Bank back in 1876. The Baldwin Hills are named for Lucky Baldwin. What a scoundrel.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13948

The oldest house in LA (pictured below) is still there:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o...155%2520PM.jpg
http://www.archives.gov/espanol/herencia.html

Yes, and I am happy to report that the people who own the Sanchez Adobe, now @ 3725 Don Felipe Drive, have begun working with an expert at historic preservation at USC to restore it! The structure was designated Los Angeles Historic-Cultural Monument #487 in 1990. The adobe buildings were added onto and used as a golf course clubhouse in the 1930s, and later by a womens' club and a church.

B/W photos are LAPL; color photos are mine unless marked otherwise . . . .

1924 aerial view (duh!) looking west:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psefeef453.jpg
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics25/00032053.jpg
Light green = future path of La Cienega Blvd.
Dark blue = future site of Baldwin Hills Dam
Yellow = future path of La Brea Ave.
Light Blue = future path of Stocker St.
Red circle = Sanchez Adobe
Purple = intersection of Angeles Vista (long curvy street) and 48th

1924 looking SW at ranch buildings:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psb077b238.jpg
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00078/00078974.jpg

Similar view, 1920s, with people:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps81aff026.jpg
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics25/00032278.jpg

1924 looking NE:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...pscd0638a0.jpg
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00078/00078973.jpg

1924 two-story portion:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...pseb2ae939.jpg
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics33/00066129.jpg

1924 looking NE across interior courtyard:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psec72034f.jpg
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00078/00078975.jpg

Interior courtyard, 1930s:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps56821d6b.jpg
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00100/00100837.jpg

Interior courtyard, 2013:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps659e19d2.jpg

East side rooms (under chimneys in photo above):
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psb88dffed.jpg

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6bf27588.jpg

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps96f07590.jpg

As golf course clubhouse, 1930s:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psd2213e5a.jpg

Golf bags by clubhouse, 1930s:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps430f5b13.jpg
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00100/00100832.jpg
This is under the 2-story portion. The horizontal wood base is still there on the wall, but the pegs have been sawed off (see five photos down).

1934 commemorative plaque:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps11109eb3.jpg
What's with "O'Paso"? I don't think there are apostrophes in Spanish, and it's certainly not an Irish name . . . .

Today:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6937ab28.jpg

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psa49a4d57.jpg

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps63e64f9f.jpg
I'm told that when this area between the two buildings was open, golf carts passed through here. Also, there's apparently original tile under the modern flooring inside.

Two-story adobe:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8657fafd.jpg

Adobe room under 2nd story:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps40afce46.jpg

Doorway to 2nd story room (at top of stairs behind wooden railing, two photos up):
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9d75a439.jpg

2nd story room interior:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2bbb08bf.jpg

Google Earth view of complex:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3a6f1093.jpg
Google Earth

tovangar2 Apr 14, 2013 3:08 AM

Joannes Bros/Ben-Hur/Palace Hotel/The American/Al's Bar
 
As long as we're on coffee buildings in the Arts District, here's 800 Traction Avenue, the Joannes Brothers Company building (John Parkinson, 1916), home of Ben-Hur Coffee and Spices. It's on that out-of-kilter block:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-C...72002%2BPM.jpg
http://www.you-are-here.com/downtown/ben_hur.html

It's been lofted and is beautifully maintained:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7...73524%2BPM.jpg
gsv

The new entrance is on the S Hewitt St side:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4...73949%2BPM.jpg
gsv

In the 30s Coffee Products of America had their HQ there. They processed beans from Hawaii, Mexico, Central America, Columbia, Brazil, Java, Arabia and Africa.
Later the building housed the Angeles Desk Company. Their painted signs are still on two sides of the building:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-X...72804%2BPM.jpg
google maps

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F...72944%2BPM.jpg
gsv

Across S Hewitt, at #303, is the former Palace Hotel (now The American) of white-painted brick:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-t...74523%2BPM.jpg
pollyann/kasahara - flickr

It could not be more different than the Joannes Brothers building and is obviously older (1906 or earlier). Never seen heart-shaped retrofitting bolts before:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-U...75044%2BPM.jpg
gsv

For decades Al's Bar (305 S Hewitt) in the basement was a famous music venue, latterly for punk rock. Alas, it's gone:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Q...75623%2BPM.jpg
gsv


Joel Bloom's at 716 Traction Ave
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-m...65442%2BPM.jpg
http://www.you-are-here.com/location/blooms.html

P.S.

Thx Flyingwedge. Great post!

Scott had a nice blog post on the Sanchez too:
http://losangelespast.blogspot.com/2...1_archive.html

JScott Apr 14, 2013 3:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 6090416)
Yes, and I am happy to report that the people who own the Sanchez Adobe, now @ 3725 Don Felipe Drive, have begun working with an expert at historic preservation at USC to restore it! The structure was designated Los Angeles Historic-Cultural Monument #487 in 1990. The adobe buildings were added onto and used as a golf course clubhouse in the 1930s, and later by a womens' club and a church.


Can you give us a link to where you found this information?

ethereal_reality Apr 14, 2013 3:54 AM

OOPS!

http://imageshack.us/a/img580/7093/a...detailhuge.jpg

I just discovered my Bixel/Jaguar photo was posted long ago by GW. -my bad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5618106)


WS1911 Apr 14, 2013 4:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6090421)

Across S Hewitt, at #305, is the former Palace Hotel (now the Hotel American) of white-painted brick:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-i...100%2520PM.jpg
pollyann/kasahara - flickr

It could not be more different than the Joannes Brothers building and is obviously much older. Never seen heart-shaped retrofitting bolts before:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-g...729%2520PM.jpg
gsv
For decades Al's Bar (entrance at the red awning) was a famous music venue, latterly for punk rock. Alas, it's gone:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-C...539%2520PM.jpg
gsv

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The Hotel American looks like it's going to fall apart at any moment. I noticed the word "Pray" under one window.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4530/pray2s.jpg
GSV

ethereal_reality Apr 14, 2013 4:19 AM

I am intrigued by the 'Norconian Club' (center right). What kind of club is important enough to be listed on a map!?


I didn't realize the map was so L A R G E.
http://imageshack.us/a/img266/5969/a...apmetrodot.jpg
http://www.lapl.org/collections-reso...map-collection

I would google-search it myself but I'm off to visit my Mom in Illinois for a couple days.
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tovangar2 Apr 14, 2013 4:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WS1911 (Post 6090463)
________
The Hotel American looks like it's going to fall apart at any moment.

I know. I can't discern any pointing between the bricks. I think gravity and paint are keeping it in place. The plethora of retrofitting bolts make the poor thing look like San Sebastian. I guess they'd hold the framing together at least. In person it looks like a puff of air would crumble it. Kinda makes one hold one's breath. I'm glad it's there though. I have a distinct soft spot for the ramshackle.

tovangar2 Apr 14, 2013 4:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6090473)
I am intrigued by the 'Norconian Club' (center right). What kind of club is important enough to be listed on a map!?

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This kind of club:

http://www.lakenorconianclub.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=183XStcPJa4 Great video tour (Part 1 of 4)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY6zwkLFdSk History

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op0DbsSUUTo Opening Day

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-p...504%2520PM.jpg
http://allforceshonorguard.com/id25.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6090460)
OOPS!

I just discovered my Bixel/Jaguar photo was posted long ago by GW. -my bad.

Pfft. This thread's so humongous, who can remember 350 pages back? I try to remember to search before posting, but sometimes the search function fails one

Flyingwedge Apr 14, 2013 4:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 6090416)
Yes, and I am happy to report that the people who own the Sanchez Adobe, now @ 3725 Don Felipe Drive, have begun working with an expert at historic preservation at USC to restore it! The structure was designated Los Angeles Historic-Cultural Monument #487 in 1990. The adobe buildings were added onto and used as a golf course clubhouse in the 1930s, and later by a womens' club and a church.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JScott (Post 6090438)
Can you give us a link to where you found this information?

Sorry, I should have explained.

Last month I stopped by to take some photos of the place, and by chance a very nice lady with the group that owns it happened to be there. This lady is the one who told me about the pending restoration, the complex's past history as a womens' club and church, where the golf carts went between the two buildings, and the old tile underneath.

That day she graciously let me into the adobe rooms on the east side to take some pictures and mentioned the next day the group would have its meeting there . . . so I just showed up again, camera in hand. She let me take some pictures of the rooms open that day and mentioned that some USC students were coming to take pictures that afternoon. So . . . being the bad penny that I am, I turned up again and was able to take pictures of inside the actual adobe house (upstairs and downstairs).

I don't want to mention this nice lady's name or the group that owns the building, because I'm not sure they are looking to handle inquiries about the property at this time, her patience and forbearance with me notwithstanding. However, I will be happy to supply you, in a private message, with the name of the restoration dude at USC.

BTW, where was "the scissor" (La Tijera), anyway?
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psefeef453.jpg
Is it looking north from where the La Brea/Stocker intersection (where light blue and yellow canyons fork at left center of photo) is today? I guess it must have been obvious from the ground, unless the Montgolfier Brothers made a visit to Los Angeles that's been lost to history. ;)

P.S. On second thought, if La Tijera resembled a pair of scissors (Paso de la Tijera/Pass of the Scissor), I guess it must refer to the canyon containing Stocker Street. The resemblance must have been noticeable while down in the canyon.

tovangar2 Apr 14, 2013 7:27 AM

Re that post a couple of pages back on the Temple Block and the old Clocktower Courthouse (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13948)
I noticed a photo on the Water & Power Museum site that I don't think has been posted here before:

The photo is of the old two-story Temple adobe (facing the camera) with commercial, brick buildings behind it. This was demolished in 1870 to erect the new Temple Block. The clocktower of the old courthouse is to the south. John Temple (1796-1866) built all of these buildings. FPF Temple (1822-1880) inherited them from his half-brother in 1866:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-A...54506%2BPM.jpg
http://waterandpower.org/museum/Earl...s)_Page_1.html

The Temples were from Massachusetts. FPF Temple, younger than John by 26 years, didn't meet his half-brother until he emigrated to California in 1841 as John had left home by the time FPF (Francis Pliny Fisk) Temple was born. In Los Angeles FPF was called "Templeito" as he was just 5 feet in height.

Incredible to think that the site of the Clocktower Courthouse is now entirely contained within the base of City Hall.

(I hope I'm not putting everyone to sleep with Victorian LA.)

westcork Apr 14, 2013 1:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6090374)
As we now know 726 Garland Avenue.

http://imageshack.us/a/img15/2261/aa...andavebyjo.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13937


I think our best chance of locating the Garland Hall Apartments would be from aerials. I've included two examples that include the west side
of the Harbor Freeway. (it took me awhile to dig these up)

http://imageshack.us/a/img89/1205/aa...chbankofax.jpg
http://www.library.ucla.edu/ucla-university-archives



1960s
http://imageshack.us/a/img16/4582/aa...rchcolor19.jpg
found on an old cd of mine

-To be honest, I think the Garland Hall Apartments would be slightly south of these two examples...but I could be wrong .
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Here is a view from a different angle
View from the 62nd floor of the United California Bank building, looking west towards the Hollywood Hills and Santa Monica Mountains in the far background. Wilshire Boulevard bisects the photograph and points straight to the imposing buildings of the Wilshire district and Miracle Mile. In the extreem left hand corner rise the hills of Westwood.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics27/00033410.jpg
LAPL

westcork Apr 14, 2013 2:15 PM

Another view looking for Garland
Aerial view of the Hilton Hotel and the surrounding area. On the right,traffic may be seen traveling north and south on the Harbor Freeway. Large building in the background is the Los Angeles Convention Center.
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics23/00046398.jpg
LAPL

westcork Apr 14, 2013 2:23 PM

...seeking Garland

Aerial view of the surroundings areas of Los Angeles. A large banner which reads, "Merry Christmas" is displayed at the top of the Signal building on left.
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics49/00059392.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/D...wdate=&hidate=

westcork Apr 14, 2013 2:44 PM

....last one. I promise

Aerial view of Downtown Los Angeles; view is looking east from over the Harbor Freeway (110). The Statler Hilton Hotel, located between 7th and Wilshire and built by Holabird, Root & Burgee of Chicago, is visible on lower middle. City Hall, built by John Parkinson and Albert C. Martin, Sr., can be seen in the distance on the left, and farther still, the Los Angeles River runs horizontally across the top. Photographed for Union Oil Company on October 25, 1955.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00089/00089609.jpg
LAPL

belmont bob Apr 14, 2013 4:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westcork (Post 6090713)
....last one. I promise

Aerial view of Downtown Los Angeles; view is looking east from over the Harbor Freeway (110). The Statler Hilton Hotel, located between 7th and Wilshire and built by Holabird, Root & Burgee of Chicago, is visible on lower middle. City Hall, built by John Parkinson and Albert C. Martin, Sr., can be seen in the distance on the left, and farther still, the Los Angeles River runs horizontally across the top. Photographed for Union Oil Company on October 25, 1955.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00089/00089609.jpg
LAPL



Check out Histroicaerials.com, and the 1972 aerial view of Garland south of 7th. I think we can see this old Garland Apartment pretty clearly. And at the right perspective the apartment bldg. on 7th. The earlier 1952 and 1948 views are really fuzzy, but once you see the ’72 then you know what you are looking at and can pick out the bldg. That wall appears to be the back side of a parking lot that spans between 7th. and 8th. and is clearly visible. By the time the 1980 aerial is taken, both apartments have been wiped clean off the map. I think it may still be there in above view as Garland is clearly visible at the end of the 8th. Street curve, but it’s just too small.

I should point out this is not much, but sometimes a little is better than nothing..right?

westcork Apr 14, 2013 7:10 PM

The paving of Olvera St.
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/el_pue...00-OG-0151.jpg

And everyone's favorite preservationist, Chris Sterling.

Opening of the Simpson building with Elena Verdugo, Leo Carillo, Christine Sterling and Walter Brunsweiger
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/el_pue...16-SO-0002.jpg


Crowds of people marching in a parade, standing around as if posed for pictures. Christine Sterling is in the photograph, smiling while sitting on a horse.
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/el_pue...301-B-0257.jpg

Mrs. Christine Sterling "Mother of Olvera Street" with her favorite horse "Mexico."
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/el_pue...13-ST-0028.jpg

All images courtesy of LAPL El Pueblo de Los Angeles Historical Monument Photo Archive

westcork Apr 14, 2013 7:28 PM

Simpson Building

Description: Diamond Shirt Co., Olvera Street Trading Post
Photo Date: late 1940's
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/el_pue...27-SB-0002.jpg


Description: Soochow Restaurant, main facade, at the corner of Main Street and Sunset Boulevard
Photo Date: early 1950's
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/el_pue...27-SB-0003.jpg

Description: Soochow Restaurant and Diamond Shirt Co. on Sunset Boulevard
Photo Date: August 21, 1958
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/el_pue...27-SB-0009.jpg

Description: Simpson building, south wall, at Sunset Boulevard
Photographer: Rothschild Photo
Photo Date: December 20, 1958
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/el_pue...27-SB-0016.jpg

Renovations
All Wrong Captions at LAPL
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/el_pue...27-SB-0015.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/el_pue...27-SB-0020.jpg
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/el_pue...27-SB-0021.jpg

Description: Simpson building, post renovation
Photographer: Rothschild Photo
Photo Date: May 1959
http://dbase1.lapl.org/images/el_pue...27-SB-0022.jpg

All images courtesy of LAPL El Pueblo de Los Angeles Historical Monument Photo Archive

Lwize Apr 14, 2013 7:39 PM

http://larry.wizegallery.com/VWV/Orchid.jpg
GSV

Any history on The Orchid Karaoke Club building: 607 S. Oxford Avenue, Los Angeles, CA 90005?

http://goo.gl/maps/OjkDe


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