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kznyc2k Oct 10, 2012 8:45 PM

Have these images been seen here yet? They come from a blog where the writer says his father took all of these over the course of the 1940s. They are some of the most clear color images from that period that I've ever seen:

http://macrochef.files.wordpress.com...3108.jpg?w=900

http://macrochef.files.wordpress.com...4884.jpg?w=900

http://macrochef.files.wordpress.com...3984.jpg?w=900

http://macrochef.files.wordpress.com...4118.jpg?w=900

http://macrochef.files.wordpress.com...3414.jpg?w=900

Full-sizes of the above and many more images--along with excellent captions--can be found here: http://macrochef.wordpress.com/2011/...-in-the-1940s/

ethereal_reality Oct 10, 2012 9:25 PM

These are extremely beautiful photographs kznyc2k. I've posted the first one before, but if I remember correctly I mistakenly thought it was a Cushman*
http://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/cushman/index.jsp

The others are new to me. Two of them show the Famous Department Store which we just discussed earlier this week.

Here's the one showing the downtown 'Famous' found on the son's blog.

http://imageshack.us/a/img31/5702/aa...mousmicroc.jpg
http://macrochef.wordpress.com/2011/...-in-the-1940s/

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BifRayRock Oct 10, 2012 9:26 PM

Perfect timing kznyc2k! :previous:

ER beat me to the enter with his "Famous" post. I understand the mixed feelings about large photos and slow downloads, but the details are often worth it! One of the photos ER posted is reposted in larger format below. Notice the box that says "No Garbage." What purpose would the bin have served? What street would that have been? The Sears and Leed's shoes should be good clues. http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...h_doc=sears%26 http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...h_doc=leed%27s

more FAMOUS
http://macrochef.files.wordpress.com...nd-r1-e055.jpghttp://macrochef.files.wordpress.com...nd-r1-e055.jpg

ethereal_reality Oct 10, 2012 10:18 PM

http://imageshack.us/a/img19/5825/aa...afterdiver.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img834/473/aa...fterdiver1.jpg
http://www.cvhistory.org/thennow/thennow.htm

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ethereal_reality Oct 11, 2012 12:38 AM

The Cafe Armstrong-Schroder. Notice the stylized A & S located in the gable.

http://imageshack.us/a/img812/8636/a...ngschroede.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Phot...-/180984358758





http://imageshack.us/a/img802/9919/a...gfederalhe.jpg
http://www.federalheath.com/



http://imageshack.us/a/img248/8141/a...ngschroder.jpg
menu cover/ebay

above: I see that the stylized A and S within the gable is their logo as well.





below: I believe this is the location today. I need to dig up some old aerials of this famous intersection to be sure.

http://imageshack.us/a/img16/5233/aacafearm1today.jpg
google street view

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Matthew Oct 11, 2012 2:32 AM

I love this building (pictured below)! I think I save more building photographs from this thread than any other. The Simons Building is also great! I see two different typefaces on the building pictured below. I think the first image is from 1937. The other is likely from the 1940s, but that is only a guess. I find it interesting how communication waves were shown in art and architecture during this time. 570 Lexington Avenue in New York is a great example, with similar waves. I wish this building (below) still had the RKO tower on the globe. Would love to see it at night as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 5861702)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5860960)

As this thread reaches its last ten pages, before being sent to the Archive, how will everyone close it out? Anything really exciting planned for these last pages? To any moderators or administrators, is it possible to not move this thread after it reaches page 500? I do think an exception should be made for this thread. This is an amazing collection of photographs and information on this city.

Thank you to everyone posting here.

Lwize Oct 11, 2012 2:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5862450)
The Armstrong-Schroder Cafe. Notice the stylized A & S located in the gable.

http://imageshack.us/a/img812/8636/a...ngschroede.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Phot...-/180984358758





http://imageshack.us/a/img802/9919/a...gfederalhe.jpg
http://www.federalheath.com/



http://imageshack.us/a/img248/8141/a...ngschroder.jpg
menu cover/ebay

above: I see that the stylized A and S within the gable is their logo as well.





below: I believe this is the location today. I need to dig up some old aerials of this famous intersection to be sure.

http://imageshack.us/a/img16/5233/aacafearm1today.jpg
google street view

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IIRC, that Starbucks was formerly Wilson's House of Suede for decades.

Boquillas Oct 11, 2012 4:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5861997)
I've had this postcard for quite some time. In the past, I have tried to locate that large house on the hilltop to no avail.

http://imageshack.us/a/img832/7789/a...frompasade.jpg
found on ebay 2011

When I came across this pc again today, it dawned on me this could be showing the location of Devil's Gate Dam.
Do you think this is correct?
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That's right! The dam would be in the area behind the house on the hill there. The house no longer exists-- there's an apartment complex there now on Arroyo Terrace. The bridge crossing the arroyo below and to the left of the house is W. Holly St.

ethereal_reality Oct 11, 2012 4:11 AM

:previous: Thank you for the information Boquillas. I really appreciate it. I've been trying to figure out that postcard for quite some time.
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ProphetM Oct 11, 2012 5:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5862179)
Notice the box that says "No Garbage." What purpose would the bin have served?

Probably a recycling bin for something like scrap metal or cans, as this was during World War II. The banners over the street are great for dating - the 7th War Loan was from April 9 to July 7, 1945.

Try as I might, I have been unable to locate the street. None of my hits for Sears, Leed's shoe store of the Famous Dept Store seem to match up. I wish I knew what that sign said that has "XIME" in it.

Los Angeles Past Oct 11, 2012 5:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew (Post 5862596)
As this thread reaches its last ten pages, before being sent to the Archive, how will everyone close it out? Anything really exciting planned for these last pages? To any moderators or administrators, is it possible to not move this thread after it reaches page 500? I do think an exception should be made for this thread. This is an amazing collection of photographs and information on this city.

Thank you to everyone posting here.

"noirish Los Angeles - The Sequel" ?

Moxie Oct 11, 2012 11:36 AM

More noirish Los Angeles?

(I like wording with double meanings.;))

rcarlton Oct 11, 2012 1:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5862179)
Perfect timing kznyc2k! :previous:

ER beat me to the enter with his "Famous" post. I understand the mixed feelings about large photos and slow downloads, but the details are often worth it! One of the photos ER posted is reposted in larger format below. Notice the box that says "No Garbage." What purpose would the bin have served? What street would that have been? The Sears and Leed's shoes should be good clues. http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...h_doc=sears%26 http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...h_doc=leed%27s

more FAMOUS
http://macrochef.files.wordpress.com...nd-r1-e055.jpghttp://macrochef.files.wordpress.com...nd-r1-e055.jpg

Clues:
1. Family lived in Pasadena.
2. Was there a Famous Department Store in Pasadena in 1945? If so where?
3. Distinct profile of the Sears building.

What are the groups of 4 raised traffic bumps in the street for? I see 2 maybe 3 sets of these. I was using them as clues to judge how far a block was.

Looks like 268 East Colorado in Pasadena was the address for Famous Department Store in 1933. Sears was 530 East Colorado.
http://cdm16237.contentdm.oclc.org/u...XT=&DMROTATE=0The Pasadena Digital History collection
Famous Department Store, 268 East Colorado, Pasadena. 1933.

The palm tree, and details of the two buildings look very similar.

Similar angle today, maybe a block closer to the distant Sears building and church steeple. Using the known addresses doesn't provide the proper perspective. If I look east from Famous Department Store I cannot see the Sears building and church steeple. Probably due to the wide angle lens of the Google Earth camera.


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8054/8...b6b3a61f_b.jpgGE

In 1928 the Sears Building was the Pasadena Furniture Company.

http://cdm16237.contentdm.oclc.org/u...XT=&DMROTATE=0The Pasadena Digital History collection

Today:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8056/8...2e4ebdd4_b.jpgGE

Los Angeles Past Oct 11, 2012 1:36 PM

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rcarlton Oct 11, 2012 2:05 PM

Hmm, the thread about 1 Trade Center is on page 1368 so I assume exceptions can be made.

ethereal_reality Oct 11, 2012 3:44 PM

If this thread is archived I plan to start 'noirish Los Angeles II' the same way I started this thread back in the summer of 2009.
I would use the introductory post that opened 'noirish Los Angeles'. That way, we can all carry on.
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BifRayRock Oct 11, 2012 3:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5862914)
Looks like 268 East Colorado in Pasadena was the address for Famous Department Store in 1933. Sears was 530 East Colorado.
http://cdm16237.contentdm.oclc.org/u...XT=&DMROTATE=0The Pasadena Digital History collection
Famous Department Store, 268 East Colorado, Pasadena. 1933.

The palm tree, and details of the two buildings look very similar.

Similar angle today, maybe a block closer to the distant Sears building and church steeple. Using the known addresses doesn't provide the proper perspective. If I look east from Famous Department Store I cannot see the Sears building and church steeple. Probably due to the wide angle lens of the Google Earth camera.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8054/8...b6b3a61f_b.jpgGE

Nice work and thanks to you and ProphetM.

My initial reaction was Colorado Blvd. due to the street width, but was unable to obtain confirmation through usual sources. Per ProphetM, there did not appear to be any Pasadena directory listings for The Famous, Sears, Leed's or even "[United Ar]tist[s theater]" (to the immediate left). (Were they deemed strategically significant for the War effort? :frog::rolleyes:)

Perhaps someone can positively ID the the black and gold marquee business. First impression was a theater (that patriotically encouraged glass or metal recycling). The closest "listed" theater seems to have been the Strand at 340 E. Colorado - which would have been located on the same side of the street as the Famous.

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1940s(?) Sears -
http://cafepasadena.files.wordpress..../p1570396a.jpg http://www.google.com

Closer to the building Sears occupied is another fascinating structure at 606 East Colorado. Former movie theater now school supplies vendor.

http://hometown-pasadena.com/wp-cont.../Picture-6.jpghttp://hometown-pasadena.comhttp://farm5.staticflickr.com/4108/5...527019c7_z.jpghttp://photos.cinematreasures.org/pr...jpg?1311107141http://cinematreasures.org

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...VV813X3B6Q.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...H77S1U2SPK.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...TTESXB1J1H.jpgC.St.Lib

BifRayRock Oct 11, 2012 5:23 PM

The apparent omission of many Colorado Blvd. businesses from the '42 directory is curious. The directory lists addresses from Long Beach - to Santa Monica - to Downtown - to Whittier and occasionally includes Pasadena. The Whittier area seems to have quite a few Noir vestiges.

5136 Whittier Blvd. - the former Alameda Theater. Notice the resemblance to its sister - the United Artists Theater at 606 E Colorado.
http://photos.cinematreasures.org/pr...JPG?1317673279http://photos.cinematreasures.org/pr...jpg?1312821629http://photos.cinematreasures.org/pr...jpg?1312821586http://photos.cinematreasures.org/pr...jpg?1312821537http://cinematreasures.org

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Sister theater - the former United Artists Four Star at 5112 Wilshire Blvd
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...PE6MPCHVD9.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...F2HHR6Y42K.jpgC.St. Lib

http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/u...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/u...XT=&DMROTATE=0 CStLib

http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/u...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/u...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/u...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/u...XT=&DMROTATE=0
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Fourth sister theater - United Artist Long Beach '30s
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...CK56PA8TDI.jpgC.St.Lib


BifRayRock Oct 11, 2012 5:37 PM

Brayton Theatre used to be at 2157 Atlantic Boulevard, Long Beach.

1925
http://www.csulb.edu/colleges/cla/de...alFront-sm.jpg
1933 Earthquake provided strong impetus to remodel.
http://www.csulb.edu/colleges/cla/de...s/INYA2016.jpg http://www.csulb.edu/colleges


1933 Remodel was exceptionally stylized.
http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater1/00014841.jpglapl

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...3MTKNSSVB3.jpgC.St.Lib

Godzilla Oct 11, 2012 6:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5832184)
Santa Monica - The Beautiful Arcadia Hotel and what gave way to the McClure Tunnel. http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-6182?v=hrUSCDigital


Precursor to the McClure Tunnel 1895
http://digital.smpl.org/cgi-bin/geti...B=1&DMROTATE=0http://digital.smpl.orghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/pics22/00030671.jpg LAPL

1900
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics23/00031422.jpglapl


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