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BifRayRock Oct 10, 2012 12:15 AM

Milliron's - '40s Broadway and Fifth. (501 S. Broadway. Building was remodeled by Ohrbachs in '53. Chain ultimately absorbed by The Broadway)
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics49/00059136.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics17/00008055.jpg

FDR motorcade passes nearby in '38
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00099/00099937.jpgAll from lapl

Started out in '48 as Milliron's. Opened in '49 Sepulveda in Westchester.
http://westchesterparents.org/wp-con.../image0012.jpghttp://westchesterparents.org/wp-con...0/image002.jpghttp://westchesterparents.org

http://www.you-are-here.com/modern/millirons.jpghttp://www.you-are-here.com/modern/milliron.html


1950's ad mentions that flooring is used by Milliron's!
http://www.hillcrestbooks.com/pictures/a01925.jpgebay

BifRayRock Oct 10, 2012 12:24 AM

"The Famous Department Store" northwest corner of Broadway and Fourth Street.

1937
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...0E183725A?v=hrUSC digital

"Put Famous Savings Back in Your Pocket!" http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...=0&search_doc=

Pasadena Branch at 268 E. Colorado -ca. 1933
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0
hdl.huntington.org

ethereal_reality Oct 10, 2012 12:31 AM

:previous: Nice post on Milliron's BRR. I wasn't aware of 'The Famous Department Store'.
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below: Interesting 6 wheel truck.

http://imageshack.us/a/img9/5228/pclatruckk2.jpg
ebay
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BifRayRock Oct 10, 2012 1:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5861008)
I wasn't aware of 'The Famous Department Store'.

Evidently it wasn't as Famous as advertised :rolleyes: The Pasadena store was Jordan's before it became "Famous."

1928 268 E Colorado Blvd - interior of Jordan's Department Store!
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0

http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0

Many stores and their names have been lost to the retail winds of change.
http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...doc=jordan%27s

Relatively "less-known" and partial 1927 "Department Store" Listings:

Bell Bros.
Bon Marche
Buffum's
Coulters
Famous Army Navy
Fischs
Francis
Franklin
Hackel & Guterman
Jordan's
J.C. Penny
Rosenblatt Bros.
Scott's
WL Smith
BF Snider
HT Tomio
Ville De Paris
Walker's Dept Store
Warner
Weisman
Western Dept Store
Westlake Dept Store

and then in 1928 there is Meyers and Mathers and . . . SearS Roebuck and Montgomery Ward . . . Robinaire's, Suffin's, Henshey's, Newberry's, W & J Sloane's (BH) . . . The list is long.


1928 Mather's Dept Store - East Colorado Blvd from Marengo (above the Bank)
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0

Boston Store 35 N Raymond, Pasadena 1932
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0

W & J Sloane, Beverly Hills, 1940

http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0


BifRayRock Oct 10, 2012 1:54 AM



More competition for Longest Largest Brightest Lunch Counter? http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9386

JJ Newberrys in San Bernardino 1937
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0

http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0

Godzilla Oct 10, 2012 3:30 AM

Any idea whether the "Simons" known mostly for automobile accommodations is the same as "Simons Cafe?" The script is slightly different, and the 1936 directory listings suggest there were several "Simon's Lunch Rooms." Apostrophe? http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...=0&search_doc= Additional locations 1942: http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...=0&search_doc=

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics18/00008803.jpg lapl

http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0

http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org


1933 Simon[']s interior - unknown location

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...XC3DNRESFG.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...UID7KYCXIS.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...UG6IK1CSJD.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...FCDSIXIXR6.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...11I3CNMF2B.jpgC/St.Lib

Godzilla Oct 10, 2012 3:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5860960)

1940s?
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...H94D4EBK3N.jpgc.st.lib.

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'40s
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics07/00013346.jpg

undated
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics07/00013344.jpg


1930
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics39/00069485.jpg
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics07/00013345.jpglapl

1922 Melrose at bottom
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics08/00013521.jpg Previous 5 from lapl

rcarlton Oct 10, 2012 4:09 PM

I don't think it has been mentioned before but I stumbled onto a forum thread at POTN (Photography on the net) dedicated to LA.

transitfan Oct 10, 2012 5:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5860884)
below: Here's a wider view of the 'spur'. I've circled GaylordWilshire's storage warehouse in red.

http://imageshack.us/a/img222/2733/a...vdspurline.jpg
google earth

In the past did this rather lengthy 'spur' continue west on Exposition Boulevard?

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The empty swaths of land left by this old 'spur' is amazing. You could land a small airplane there!

http://imageshack.us/a/img641/1018/a...onblvdspur.jpg
google earth

So who owns this land now? The city of Los Angeles?

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I think MTA owns the land, they bought the whole Air Line ROW. Awhile ago, there was talk of using the part east of Figueroa to connect to the Blue Line, but in the end, they just built the Expo Line as it exists today. I haven't heard about them selling the unused part of the ROW, though.

rcarlton Oct 10, 2012 5:08 PM

Color images of LA from the 1940's from the Library of Congress.
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/fs...0/1a34704v.jpg
Activity in the Santa Fe R.R. yard, Los Angeles, Calif. Due to blackout regulations, flood lights, switch lights, locomotive headlights and lights on the bridge in background have been shaded to cast light downward. Broad streaks of light are caused by paths of locomotive headlights, thin wavy lines by lamps of switchmen working in the yard. Santa Fe R.R. trip

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/fs...0/1a35319v.jpg

P-51 ("Mustang") fighter plane in construction, North American Aviation, Inc., Los Angeles, Calif.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/fs...0/1a35356v.jpg
Women workers install fixtures and assemblies to a tail fuselage section of a B-17F bomber at the Douglas Aircraft Company, Long Beach, Calif. Better known as the "Flying Fortress," the B-17F is a later model of the B-17 which distinguished itself in action in the South Pacific, over Germany and elsewhere. It is a long range, high altitude heavy bomber, with a crew of seven to nine men, and with armament sufficient to defend itself on daylight missions.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/fs...0/1a35343v.jpg
Girl worker at lunch also absorbing California sunshine, Douglas Aircraft Company, Long Beach, Calif.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/fs...0/1a35303v.jpg
On North American's outdoor assembly line, a painter cleans the tail section of a P-51 fighter prior to spraying the olive-drab camouflage of the U.S. Army, N[orth] A[merican] Aviation, Inc., Inglewood, Calif.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/fs...0/1a35366v.jpgAll from theLibrary of Congress

Students at Washington High School at class, training for specific contributions to the war effort, Los Angeles, Calif.

rcarlton Oct 10, 2012 5:43 PM

I hate scrolling to the right but these have so much detail it is worth it. If these have been used before, my apologies.
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/pa...0/6a17994r.jpgAll from Library of Congress
Panorama of Los Angeles, from Hotel Trenton, Owens River Day c1907

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/pa...0/6a02042r.jpg
Los Angeles, California from Hamburger Building c1912

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/pa...0/6a02062r.jpgLibrary of Congress
Sky Line of Los Angeles, California c1921


http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/pa...0/6a19896r.jpg
City of Hollywood, Los Angeles, Calif. c1912

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/pa...0/6a02105v.jpg
Hollywood, Jan. 1923

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/pa...0/6a18075r.jpgAll from Library of Congress
Hollywood - Los Angeles, N. from Carleton Way and Van Ness Sts. c1929

rcarlton Oct 10, 2012 5:49 PM

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/pa...0/6a18032r.jpg
Los Angeles, Cal., Feb. 23rd, 1909, looking northwest from Second and Spring Sts.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/pa...0/6a18042r.jpg
Los Angeles, Cal., Feb. 23rd, 1909, looking northwest from 4th and Broadway Sts.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/pa...0/6a18022r.jpg
Los Angeles, Cal., from Third and Olive Sts., Dec. 3rd, 1909

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/pa...0/6a25453r.jpg
"Harvard School", Los Angeles, Cal., May 26th, 1911. More on the Harvard School can be found here.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/pa...0/6a02397r.jpgAll from the Library of Congress
Panorama along Broadway St., Los Angeles, showing City Hall 1946
We saw this earlier here.

ProphetM Oct 10, 2012 5:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 5860951)
If the term "spur" comes from the advertisement, it may have been merely a term of art used just for the ad and brevity. They might have used "branch" too. It could have started out as a short "spur" line and grew with the city, or a big spur to accommodate freight rather than passengers.

Hard to say who has ownership of strip. Tax rolls might provide insight. Since portions are in use and others not, it is possible for many owners/lessors/licensees.

On the Los Angeles GIS NET the parcels all have a recording date of 3/2/1991, none have a listed value, they are zoned as LAMR1 or LAM1, and on the overhead map they are still marked as Union Pacific Railroad.

ethereal_reality Oct 10, 2012 6:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 5861260)

1933 Simon[']s interior - unknown location

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...UID7KYCXIS.jpg

I'm surprised by the amount of wood used. Where I expected a plethora of formica I see knotty pine instead.
(notice that the back of the chairs are wood as well)

I would love to see a color photograph of this interior.
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rcarlton Oct 10, 2012 6:44 PM

What could be more noirish than newsies:
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/nclc/03900/03970r.jpg

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/nclc/03900/03960r.jpg

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/nclc/03900/03962r.jpg

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/nclc/03900/03959r.jpgThe Library of Congress

Photos taken in 1915.

Arch2000 Oct 10, 2012 6:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by transitfan (Post 5861825)
I think MTA owns the land, they bought the whole Air Line ROW. Awhile ago, there was talk of using the part east of Figueroa to connect to the Blue Line, but in the end, they just built the Expo Line as it exists today. I haven't heard about them selling the unused part of the ROW, though.

Yes, that's correct. The MTA owns it and has considered building track on it to connect the Expo and Blue lines, but it would be a service or 'non-revenue' track only, not carrying passengers. It would allow them to switch trains between the lines quicker, and to get the Expo trains to their overnight storage areas without having to cross the whole line.

Besides the budget issues of building all that track without any revenue to support it, the locals weren't crazy about a track running through with no stops, landscaping, art etc that you see with passenger operations, so it's unlikely to ever be built.

rcarlton Oct 10, 2012 6:53 PM

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/fs...0/8b27072r.jpg

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/fs...0/8b27070r.jpg

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/fs...0/8b27076r.jpgThe Library of Congress

Mexican quarter of Los Angeles. One quarter mile from City Hall. Area has been condemned and will be torn down shortly to make space for the new Union Railroad station. Average rent is eight dollars. Some houses have plumbing.

These photos were taken by Dorthea Lange in 1936.

rcarlton Oct 10, 2012 7:17 PM

This picture seems so sad on many levels.
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/service/pnp/fs...0/8d28163v.jpg The Library of Congress

Hollywood, California. Girl on the street April 1942.

ethereal_reality Oct 10, 2012 7:26 PM

I've had this postcard for quite some time. In the past, I have tried to locate that large house on the hilltop to no avail.

http://imageshack.us/a/img832/7789/a...frompasade.jpg
found on ebay 2011

When I came across this pc again today, it dawned on me this could be showing the location of Devil's Gate Dam.
Do you think this is correct?
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unihikid Oct 10, 2012 7:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arch2000 (Post 5861944)
Yes, that's correct. The MTA owns it and has considered building track on it to connect the Expo and Blue lines, but it would be a service or 'non-revenue' track only, not carrying passengers. It would allow them to switch trains between the lines quicker, and to get the Expo trains to their overnight storage areas without having to cross the whole line.

Besides the budget issues of building all that track without any revenue to support it, the locals weren't crazy about a track running through with no stops, landscaping, art etc that you see with passenger operations, so it's unlikely to ever be built.

oh how i wish they would just build the track so it could be used as a REA(railroad express agency),im sure it would do well,PE had sooooooo much track and to just have it sit and do nothing saddens me.


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