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GaylordWilshire Oct 1, 2012 10:44 PM

:previous:

One of the most famous buildings in the city-- it is actually the remodeling of three or so separate structures by Robert Derrah, who also did Crossroads of the World.


http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics29/00034229.jpghttp://lapl.org
A Dick Whittington shot, 1939--looks heavily airbrushed to me.


http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics38/00068745.jpgLAPL
A 1974 interior shot I've never seen before.

rcarlton Oct 2, 2012 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5851562)
:previous:

One of the most famous buildings in the city-- it is actually the remodeling of three or so separate structures by Robert Derrah, who also did Crossroads of the World.


http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics29/00034229.jpghttp://lapl.org
A Dick Whittington shot, 1939--looks heavily airbrushed to me.


http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics38/00068745.jpgLAPL
A 1974 interior shot I've never seen before.

Ah... a noire connection. The widow of notorious gangster Charles "Goodtime Charlie" Crossman hired Robert Derrah to design the Crossroads of the World.

Godzilla Oct 2, 2012 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5851143)
Can you show us a picture of the 1922 building?

In effect, you are looking at it, circa 1995. The assessor lists the Cotswold-style property as having been built in 1922. Thank you G.Wilshire for the additional information. For being a recent photo, this odd structure looks every bit its 90 years of age and reeks of noir'ishness. I had noticed a photo of an enclosed courtyard with interesting buildings labeled "the Ann Hathaway Village" (Ann without the"e") at the same or an adjoining address - 4350 Beverly Blvd. I had a screen capture, but managed to inadvertently relabel or delete it. Hopefully this is temporary. Per GWilshire's comments, I vaguely remember being in the courtyard and being struck that it seemed much like an outdoor movie set. I am convinced the look was unusual enough that pictures exist. Sorry for any confusion.

http://cbk1.google.com/cbk?output=th...=1&w=300&h=118

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I am not in that area, nor have I visited it in many years, but I remember other interesting courtyard-style apartments or bungalows - close to the property on 1330 N. Formosa that has been attributed to Chaplin aka the French Village. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6887

The first address that comes to mind is 7207 Hampton Avenue in West Hollywood. It is where Poinsettia meets Hampton
https://www.google.com/maps/vt/data=...UgWHP37YmCRyW_ If you look at google maps, that complex has been designated as having historic significance. Unfortunately, the historic designation sign is practically worthless since it does not explain why the building is important. Perhaps one of you Noir-vets can post a link by which one can follow-up when confronted with an historic designation sign. Again, the tan sign is clearly visible. Unfortunately, the foliage completely obscures the complex as I remember it.

Although I did not live there, I was acquainted with several residents, most of whom were long retired from "the business." They confirmed that this complex was also used by day players for the nearby UA Studios and had scrapbooks with pictures. I remember the neighbor who was brought to tears looking at the photos and the owner quickly took them away. One resident who worked at the studio when it wore the Goldwyn banner had pictures of someone delivering ice by sliding it into the side of the building. In some of the buildings, the small "ice door" was still present back in the '80s. Although I may be mistaken, I am reasonably convinced that the set of residences was every bit as bizarre and oddly constructed as the Formosa address. I am certain I heard the same Chaplin-Purveyance stories attributed to this location too.

Another interesting courtyard complex with oddly placed bungalows is hidden somewhere on the 7200 Block (South side) of Fountain. The overgrown foliage makes locating the exact spot difficult. I remember it because of the shell lady who decorated the inside and outside of her unit with - shells. And then there is the original building at the northeastern end of the Greenacre cul de sac.


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To make up for my inability to post an early picture of the Cotswold building (above) I am returning to the subject of "Poinsettia" Drive and Place. Some might find it interesting to note that not far away, Poinsettias were grown commercially. While I do not have a specific address for the Farm, it was close to another interesting streamline moderne style apartment complex. The once-called Doheny View Terrace was located at 9231 North Doheny Road at the corner of Sunset Hills Road in what is now West Hollywood. It was not my intention to name drop, but according to the source notes, Markowitz & Sons Inc. designed the 1936 building and celebrities such as Eva Gardener and Mickey Rooney once resided there. The building still exists today wearing a different trim color. "Somewhere" close by, as indicated by one of the photos, there was a Poinsettia farm.

1937:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00098/00098565.jpg
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00098/00098562.jpg
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00098/00098561.jpglapl

Godzilla Oct 2, 2012 1:03 AM

On the subject of quaint but stereotypical courtyard apts:

Please be considerate of your neighbors, no music until noon on Sundays.:cool:

A Pasadena Courtyard - 1920 "The Alexander Court."
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...MF6XC4EPAR.jpgCalStLib

kznyc2k Oct 2, 2012 8:14 AM

Excuse me if this is a repost but I don't recall seeing this here--it's labelled as "Street view of NBC's $500,000 Hollywood studios". Where was/is this streamline gem?

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-41665?v=hr
USC Digital Library

More delicious deco, this time with a dramatic location:

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics47/00073099.jpg
Don Lee Broadcasting System antenna at LAPL

GaylordWilshire Oct 2, 2012 1:23 PM

:previous:

5515 Melrose Ave. This was NBC's studio before Radio City at Sunset & Vine--still there. That's RKO to the left; Paramount is down the street to the right.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4...2520AM.bmp.jpg

GaylordWilshire Oct 2, 2012 1:29 PM

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-T...2520AM.bmp.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img221/5632/1...plantconfi.jpg

Looks like he's been chewing a few leaves. I guess the wheel-and-arrow insignia on his sleeve means he's assigned to a car rather than to foot patrol...?

MichaelRyerson Oct 2, 2012 3:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5852177)
Looks like he's been chewing a few leaves. I guess the wheel-and-arrow insignia on his sleeve means he's assigned to a car rather than to foot patrol...?

Actually it means he's a motorcycle officer.

Handsome Stranger Oct 2, 2012 5:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5852169)
:previous:

5515 Melrose Ave. This was NBC's studio before Radio City at Sunset & Vine--still there. That's RKO to the left; Paramount is down the street to the right.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4...2520AM.bmp.jpg

The same building was also home to television station KHJ Channel 9 from 1955 until the late 1980s. That station was under the control of RKO General, the vestigial remains of RKO Pictures.

http://www.johninmontana.com/california/khj.jpg
[source: johninmontana.com]

KHJ-TV was acquired by Disney in 1988. The station's call letters were changed to KCAL and they vacated the Melrose Ave location, simultaneously dismissing all of the employees of KHJ-TV.

Hollywood used to be quite dense with radio and television broadcasters. To the best of my knowledge, only one remains: television station KTLA, occupying the old Warner Brothers studios on Sunset.

Steve Hoffman Oct 2, 2012 5:49 PM

Don't forget the West Coast recording studio of DECCA RECORDS was right there as well. Close enough that Bing Crosby could walk right out of Paramount and into the studio to record some songs and he could walk right back onto the lot again..

rmos Oct 2, 2012 6:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 5852542)
The same building was also home to television station KHJ Channel 9 from 1955 until the late 1980s. That station was under the control of RKO General, the vestigial remains of RKO Pictures.

http://www.johninmontana.com/california/khj.jpg
[source: johninmontana.com]

KHJ-TV was acquired by Disney in 1988. The station's call letters were changed to KCAL and they vacated the Melrose Ave location, simultaneously dismissing all of the employees of KHJ-TV.

Hollywood used to be quite dense with radio and television broadcasters. To the best of my knowledge, only one remains: television station KTLA, occupying the old Warner Brothers studios on Sunset.

Capitol Records bought this building from KHJ Radio in 1949 and used it for recording before they built the Tower in 1956.

Arch2000 Oct 2, 2012 7:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5849323)
Found an interesting theater at Whittier and Atlantic.

Architect Clifford A. Balch designed the 1927 Churrigueresque/Deco style Golden Gate Theater and Vega Building, located at 5176 East Whittier Boulevard, at the corner of Atlantic in East Los Angeles. The entrance replicated the portal of the University of Salamanca in Spain and the original 12 stores, also of Spanish design, were housed on the first floor of the Vega Building. The theater was designed both as a legitimate playhouse, seating 1,500 and a movie house. The courtyard contained two fountains and A.B. Heinsberger created the interiors. This complex was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1982. The Vega Building was demolished in 1992, but the theater was saved and is still standing today.

And now:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8315/8...b15c89d5_b.jpgGoogle Earth

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8452/8...2904bf02_b.jpgGoogle Earth

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8034/8...0ec739a0_b.jpgGoogle Earth

The theater has recently been turned into a CVS pharmacy. See the Curbed LA article: http://la.curbed.com/archives/2012/0...utiful_cvs.php

It's not the best use for the building, nor the best adaption, but at the very least it's back to being a useful part of the community and the owners/builders/tenants have taken enough care to work around and maintain historic and unique features of the building.

ethereal_reality Oct 3, 2012 12:28 AM

A few days ago, I mentioned that I had come across one of the sites on the 1920s tourist map while watching
a rather obscure Mack Sennett film. The site was the 'Palace de Glace'.

originally posted by bifrayrock
http://imageshack.us/a/img171/9158/a...ementssspb.jpg
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The film was 'Ice Cold Cocos' (1926) starring Billy Bevan & Andy Clyde. Luckily, I had my camera ready and took these screen grabs.


http://imageshack.us/a/img688/7031/dsc0360x.jpg
http://www.tcm.com/




http://imageshack.us/a/img688/4706/dsc0377t.jpg
http://www.tcm.com/



http://imageshack.us/a/img18/5776/dsc0364gl.jpg
http://www.tcm.com/



below: There are a few interior shots as well.

http://imageshack.us/a/img51/8196/dsc0379zo.jpg
http://www.tcm.com/

Obviously this could be a soundstage but I doubt it.
I don't think Mr. Sennett would spend the extra money to recreate a skating rink when the 'Palace de Glace'
was available right there in the Edendale/Silver Lake area.
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Earlier in the film a young housewife hangs a placard out her window to let the ice man know she needs more ice.

http://imageshack.us/a/img600/500/dsc0361od.jpg
http://www.tcm.com/

I was completely surprised by this.
It never occurred to me that a sign was used (notice the numbers representing how many pounds of ice she needs).



As luck would have it....steps!!*

http://imageshack.us/a/img42/2936/dsc0370om.jpg

*Are these the same steps that Laurel and Hardy used several years later? Could be!



There are also nice views of the surrounding area.

http://imageshack.us/a/img210/1979/dsc0372jd.jpg



http://imageshack.us/a/img811/9558/dsc0365m.jpg





I especially like this one!

http://imageshack.us/a/img843/7900/dsc0374qw.jpg
http://www.tcm.com/

Question to you 'noirish' followers...does that hilltop in the distance look familiar?
(notice the fairly large mansion to the right of the summit)



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unihikid Oct 3, 2012 1:06 AM

not to get of subject but in the map it says pico golf...its right near pico and fairfax which is where i grew up.where was this pico golf?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5853118)
A few days ago, I mentioned that I had come across one of the sites on the 1920s tourist map while watching
a rather obscure Mack Sennett film. The site was the 'Palace de Glace'.

originally posted by bifrayrock
http://imageshack.us/a/img171/9158/a...ementssspb.jpg
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The film was 'Ice Cold Cocos' (1926) starring Billy Bevan & Andy Clyde. Luckily, I had my camera ready and took these screen grabs.


http://imageshack.us/a/img688/7031/dsc0360x.jpg
http://www.tcm.com/




http://imageshack.us/a/img688/4706/dsc0377t.jpg
http://www.tcm.com/



http://imageshack.us/a/img18/5776/dsc0364gl.jpg
http://www.tcm.com/



below: There are a few interior shots as well.

http://imageshack.us/a/img51/8196/dsc0379zo.jpg
http://www.tcm.com/

Obviously this could be a soundstage but I doubt it.
I don't think Mr. Sennett would spend the extra money to recreate a skating rink when the 'Palace de Glace'
was available right there in the Edendale/Silver Lake area.
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Earlier in the film a young housewife hangs a placard out her window to let the ice man know she needs more ice.

http://imageshack.us/a/img600/500/dsc0361od.jpg
http://www.tcm.com/

I was completely surprised by this.
It never occurred to me that a sign was used (notice the numbers representing how many pounds of ice she needs).



As luck would have it....steps!!*

http://imageshack.us/a/img42/2936/dsc0370om.jpg

*I believe these are the same steps that Laurel and Hardy used several years later.



There are also nice views of the surrounding area.

http://imageshack.us/a/img210/1979/dsc0372jd.jpg



http://imageshack.us/a/img811/9558/dsc0365m.jpg





I especially like this one!

http://imageshack.us/a/img843/7900/dsc0374qw.jpg
http://www.tcm.com/

Question to you 'noirish' followers...does that hilltop in the distance have a name?



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ethereal_reality Oct 3, 2012 1:26 AM

The Maryland Hotel in 1969.

http://imageshack.us/a/img233/3859/a...elglendale.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img17/3236/aa...dhotelinfo.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=64463






The Maryland Hotel as it appears today.

http://imageshack.us/a/img94/971/aamarylandh.jpg
google street view

Woe is me...the rooftop sign is gone. :(

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Albany NY Oct 3, 2012 2:20 AM

There's history all over that corner
 
rcarltonposted: Got to be a story here: A Coca Cola ship on 14th street?
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8032/8...1a11d696_b.jpgGE

Out of curiosity, I checked Google Maps and noticed an interesting building across the corner from the Coca-Cola ship. A fire station with an interesting history. I don't recall seeing it here before. "My bad" if its been covered already.
First, the former fire station as it exists today.
http://imageshack.us/a/img28/473/eng...googlemaps.jpgGoogle Maps
Now the history. According to LAFire.com, "On September 4, 1917 the City Council directed the fire commission to remove the white firemen from Fire Station 30 at 1401 S. Central Ave. and replace them with the black firemen from Hose Co. No 4. Acting Chief Engineer O'Donnell resented the City Council's interference of internal fire department affairs and refused- only he had the authority to assign personnel. In addition, Engine 30 required an engineer and the city's Engineering Department had a policy of refusing to certify blacks. Blacks were only trained to operate chemical hose companies. In the mid-20's there was a sudden upsurge of men of color joining the fire service and a the need for a larger station intensified. The battle to make Engine 30 an all-black station took seven years. Engine 30 was a popular assignment and the white firemen threatened to strike. Racial tensions mounted. Never-the-less on April 16, 1924 the white firemen were removed and the black firemen from Hose 4 were transferred in. As more blacks joined the department Engine 30 became crowded. The department's wrecker (heavy rescue) was assigned to Fire Station 30, simply because there was insufficient riding room for all the firemen on the engines and truck. Another station was needed."
http://imageshack.us/a/img696/4417/circa1914.jpgCirca 1914 Image from LAFire.com

I like being able to see inside these utilitarian buildings to see how our protectors lived so long ago.
http://imageshack.us/a/img41/6812/recroomcirca1915.jpgRec Room, Circa 1915 Image from LAFire.com

http://imageshack.us/a/img253/8942/s...ersmay1419.jpg Sleeping Quarters, Circa 1915 Image from LAFire.com

http://imageshack.us/a/img195/6327/i...rcirca1918.jpg Just Posing, Circa 1915 Image from LAFire.com

http://imageshack.us/a/img825/8527/circa19201921.jpg Circa 1920-1921 Image from LAFire.com

Curiously, I was unable to find any pictures of the station or crew after the switch to black firefighters, except for this single collage of the crew from around 1925.
http://imageshack.us/a/img228/3810/crewcirca1925.jpg Circa 1925 Image from LAFire.com

I've always felt the true history of a city is in its people, as well as its buildings. In the case of Engine Co. 30, I guess it's history its literally black-and-white.

BifRayRock Oct 3, 2012 3:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5853118)
A few days ago, I mentioned that I had come across one of the sites on the 1920s tourist map while watching
a rather obscure Mack Sennett film. The site was the 'Palace de Glace'.

originally posted by bifrayrock
http://imageshack.us/a/img171/9158/a...ementssspb.jpg
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http://imageshack.us/a/img18/5776/dsc0364gl.jpg
http://www.tcm.com/

below: There are a few interior shots as well.
http://imageshack.us/a/img51/8196/dsc0379zo.jpg
http://www.tcm.com/

Earlier in the film a young housewife hangs a placard out her window to let the ice man know she needs more ice.
http://imageshack.us/a/img600/500/dsc0361od.jpg
http://www.tcm.com/

I was completely surprised by this.
It never occurred to me that a sign was used (notice the numbers representing how many pounds of ice she needs).
As luck would have it....steps!!*
http://imageshack.us/a/img42/2936/dsc0370om.jpg

*Are these the same steps that Laurel and Hardy used several years later? Could be!

Ice Doors, Ice Skating and Ice. :previous: Blimey! http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9585

Not sure about golf but how about an Igloo at 4302 Pico [Blvd.]?
August '27
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-31097?v=hrhttp://jpg3.lapl.org/pics38/00068650.jpgUSC digital

April 19, 1928. Cornucopia Ice Cream Stand, 1934 San Fernando Blvd
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics38/00068651.jpgLapl

Undated
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics47/00073283.jpgLapl

And how about the Cuckoo Clock on Beverly Blvd.? http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9558

ethereal_reality Oct 3, 2012 3:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kznyc2k (Post 5852068)
More delicious deco, this time with a dramatic location:

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics47/00073099.jpg
Don Lee Broadcasting System antenna at LAPL


below: kznyc2k, here is a beautiful graphic. I swoon over images such as this.

http://imageshack.us/a/img155/989/11...ardcalifbo.jpg
repeat/ssp






http://imageshack.us/a/img23/1124/11donlee.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img402/3852/11donlee2.jpg

I am still baffled by Don Lee's decision to build a swimming pool atop Mt. Lee. What was the need?


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BifRayRock Oct 3, 2012 4:02 AM

A place to cool off?

Nighttime - Ocean Park, Santa Monica circa 1912:
http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/ut...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/ut...XT=&DMROTATE=0LMU Digital


http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/ut...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/ut...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitalcollections.lmu.edu/ut...XT=&DMROTATE=0

BifRayRock Oct 3, 2012 4:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5852169)
:previous:

5515 Melrose Ave. This was NBC's studio before Radio City at Sunset & Vine--still there. That's RKO to the left; Paramount is down the street to the right.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4...2520AM.bmp.jpg

Sunset and Vine, '40s
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7029/6...cb6320b8_b.jpgFlickr


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