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ethereal_reality Feb 16, 2012 2:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 5587193)
Driving through Boyle Heights this morning, this little gem at 1544 E. Pleasant Drive caught my eye:

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Boyle/1544E.Pleasant.JPG

I've been thinking about that sagging porch roof and wondering what might have caused it.
Then I noticed the house doesn't have any gutters. Is this normal in Southern California?

ethereal_reality Feb 16, 2012 5:02 AM

Hollywood Boulevard and Orange Drive in 1905.


http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/7...orangedriv.jpg
found tonight on ebay

I'm quite impressed by the exotic buildings in this early photograph.

Notice the building at middle-left with the tall turrets (the turrets are somewhat hard to see).
Also intriguing is the building at lower-right with the prominent skylight and tower.
In the upper portion of the photograph there is a building that resembles a high school (with a 'quasi' dome).
Regrettably, I am unable to identify any of these early Hollywood buildings. :(

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3940dxer Feb 16, 2012 5:44 AM

Right, the building with the dome is Hollywood Union High School.

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/HlwdUnion.jpg

http://www.ebay.com/

GaylordWilshire Feb 16, 2012 2:40 PM

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-i...s/s279/asc.jpgASC

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5592662)
Hollywood Boulevard and Orange Drive in 1905.


http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/7...orangedriv.jpg
found tonight on ebay

I'm quite impressed by the exotic buildings in this early photograph.

Notice the building at middle-left with the tall turrets (the turrets are somewhat hard to see).
Also intriguing is the building at lower-right with the prominent skylight and tower.

Regrettably, I am unable to identify any of these early Hollywood buildings. :(

The turreted building at middle-left is the Hollywood Hotel. Gone, of course. But I was amazed to find that 107 years later, at least one of the buildings in your picture still exists, and is in use (and even iconized) by the American Society of Cinematographers. Many more historic pics at link below.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-B...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle


See the ASC site for more PICTURES HERE.

sopas ej Feb 16, 2012 8:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5592436)
I've been thinking about that sagging porch roof and wondering what might have caused it.
Then I noticed the house doesn't have any gutters. Is this normal in Southern California?

Not all houses in SoCal have rain gutters. The house I grew up in (which btw, my parents still live in) doesn't have rain gutters. The apartment building I live in, though, does.

GaylordWilshire Feb 16, 2012 9:09 PM

Noir Pasadena
 
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-K.../circle103.jpgPasadena Museum of History

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-D...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle
953 East Colorado Blvd.

ethereal_reality Feb 17, 2012 12:46 AM

Thanks for the info. G_W...David(3940dxer) & sopas.

I love the fact that the American Society of Cinematographers building still stands.
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Great noir shot of the Circle bar G_W.

ethereal_reality Feb 17, 2012 12:57 AM

The elegant Daniel Murphy residence 2076 West Adams Street circa 1910. (sadly demolished)



http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/4...street1910.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1329440115145

sopas ej Feb 17, 2012 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5593532)

Great pics! Very noir shot. I used to go to a barber in that building, which was on the Mentor Ave. side. The barber was a Latino guy who reminded me of Buddy Hackett. I went to him for a number of years, and then one time I went by his place and saw that he had closed for good, I assume he retired (this was around 2002 or so). It took me a while to find another guy who gave me haircuts that I actually liked. No offense to women who cut men's hair, but I never really liked any haircuts that I got from women. Anyway...

The comedy club called The Ice House is the building just north of there. Its name comes from the fact that, well, it used to be an ice house.

GaylordWilshire Feb 17, 2012 1:03 AM

When was the last time you went swimming when you bought a car?
 
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-S...lmtopfinal.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p...mfina%253B.jpgLos Angeles Times May 7, 1953

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Y...2520PM.bmp.jpgLos Angeles Times May 10, 1953

ethereal_reality Feb 17, 2012 1:22 AM

:previous: ONLY in L.A. :).....would you find a swimming pool at a car dealership.
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It looks as if the DMV has always been hell on earth.

below: A loooong line in 1940.

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1412/dmv1940.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1329441613396

At first I thought this was the same building in both photos...but count the windows to the left of the fire escape.

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below: A loooong line in 1951. The address is 3500 Hope Street.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/459...est1951usc.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1329441613396

So what's that neighboring building to the left?

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GaylordWilshire Feb 17, 2012 1:37 AM

:previous:

Oh no, e-r...the DMV is a nightmare from coast to coast, especially the power-tripping cretins behind the counters. I know it's perhaps uncool to wish it on anyone these days, but never have I been less sad to see people lose their jobs as more of the processes are done by the consumer online....

ethereal_reality Feb 17, 2012 1:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5593902)

below: A loooong line in 1951. The address is 3500 Hope Street.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/459...est1951usc.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1329441613396

So what's that neighboring building to the left?

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I just checked the address. The building at 3500 Hope Street (and it's neighbor) is still there!


http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4795/dmvhope1.jpg
google street view







below: A glimpse at the neighbor (the lattice-like details that appear at the corners of the building are gone).


http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4610/dmvhope1a.jpg
google street view




below: They both barely survived the construction of the Harbor Freeway.

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7749/dmvh2.jpg
google street view


The neighbor is labeled 'East Library Building'....perhaps it's a storage facility.

unihikid Feb 17, 2012 1:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5572015)
Earlier on the page Gaylord_Wilshire posted a 1959 aerial showing the proposed location for the SEIBU department store.
I've been meaning to do a SEIBU post for quite some time..so this seems like a good time to do so.



below: SEIBU, the Japanese department store opened on March 1962 at the southeast corner of Wilshire & Fairfax.
This was three years before LACMA.

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/2...deptstore1.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/FullRecord?
databaseID=968&record=6&controlNumber=4778773





below: Looking north on Fairfax toward the May Co. department store on Wilshire.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8...axentrance.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=60450




below: Interior view 1962.

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/3...buinterior.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53409445@N04/5447380644/




below: SEIBU 1962 rooftop restaurant (I didn't know there was a rooftop restaurant until today)

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/9...estaurantf.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53409445@N04/page7/


below: Another view of the rooftop restaurant 1962.

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/2...962wilshir.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53409445@N04/page7/





SEIBU only lasted from 1962 to 1964. From 1964 to 1986 it operated as an Ohrbach's department store.

below: SEIBU as an Ohrbach's in 1978.

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/5...s1978annel.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=4984278


below: Today the SEIBU building hosts the Peterson Automotive Museum.


http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/846/seibutoday.jpg
google street views

..for comparison
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/2...deptstore1.jpg
LAPL




I just found out the rooftop restaurant space is still intact! :)

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/7...automuseum.jpg
http://www.herecomestheguide.com/sou...motive-museum/

oh Ohrbach's my grandmother use to take me to the kids dept when i was younger,and the entrance on fairfax i totally forgot about that,i do remember there being a pond on the roof deck,also the one thing that sticks out in my mind is the spiral drive way! granny had full range of the store and got a big discount for being friends with the former owners off the Bullocks/I Magnin system.After shopping we would go get gas at a mid century 76 that was right behind may co and then head for the tea room at bullocks(which was still open in the late 80s early 90s).

GaylordWilshire Feb 17, 2012 1:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5593902)
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1412/dmv1940.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1329441613396

At first I thought this was the same building in both photos...but count the windows to the left of the fire escape. The address is 3500 Hope Street.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/459...est1951usc.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1329441613396

So what's that neighboring building to the left?

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Y...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle

It is the same building, e-r. The building at left in your pics is still there (3440 S. Hope). The Harbor Freeway is right across Hope from these buildings.

ethereal_reality Feb 17, 2012 1:51 AM

:previous: OK...great...I didn't think to check the side street. Thanks G_W. (I added pics to my post above while you were posting this)

ethereal_reality Feb 17, 2012 1:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 5593928)
oh Ohrbach's my grandmother use to take me to the kids dept when i was younger,and the entrance on fairfax i totally forgot about that,i do remember there being a pond on the roof deck,also the one thing that sticks out in my mind is the spiral drive way! granny had full range of the store and got a big discount for being friends with the former owners off the Bullocks/I Magnin system.After shopping we would go get gas at a mid century 76 that was right behind may co and then head for the tea room at bullocks(which was still open in the late 80s early 90s).


This sounds like a day we would all like to relive. Kudos to your grandmother!

GaylordWilshire Feb 17, 2012 2:00 AM

http://www.usc.edu/libraries/archive...east_1931.jpegUSCDL

A history of the building at 3440 S. Hope is HERE.

ethereal_reality Feb 17, 2012 2:48 AM

A simple house at 4932 Cimarron Street. I found a couple photos of the interior as well.

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/4...treetgoogl.jpg
google street view




below: I often forget what fine workmanship exists in the interior of these middle class vintage homes.


http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/2...tlahotpads.jpg
http://hotpads.com/rentals/4932-Cima...ultsPerQuad=24



http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/8...imarronst2.jpg
http://hotpads.com/rentals/4932-Cima...ultsPerQuad=24

They just don't make them like they use to.

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unihikid Feb 17, 2012 3:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5593944)
This sounds like a day we would all like to relive. Kudos to your grandmother!

it was a rare treat when that once a month day came along,i forgot to mention right next to may-co was an ortho store,it had the same curved copper awnings as the may-co building and was one story,we bought all of our mattreses there.i came across some pics that i took of it when i was little with my argoflex but im in dallas now,when i get back to la i will post.its funny that things can change so much in a 15-20 year span.


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