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3940dxer Feb 12, 2012 1:03 AM

Library Of Congress - Los Angeles Mapped
 
While looking for old maps to aid my Lookout Mountain investigations, I came across this online exhibit of L.A. Maps on the Library Of Congress site. I couldn't find anything with detail on Laurel Canyon, but there are some other interesting maps, including a 1912 entry they call "Ghost Suburbs of L.A." That map shows Garvanza along with dozens of other surprising "towns" including, down by Robertson and Wilshire, places called Arnaz and (ahem) Gayland. The site seems a good resource, though online availability of some maps is pending.

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/lamapped...d-exhibit.html

Here's a 1934 paper place map from Bullock's Tea Room that I liked.

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Maps/TeaRoom.souvenir3.jpg
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/lamapped...d-exhibit.html

Here's another good resource for old L.A. maps http://hypercities.ats.ucla.edu/

3940dxer Feb 12, 2012 4:23 AM

Here's a map of the Laurel Canyon / Lookout Mountain / Sunset Plaza area. This is an enlarged scan I made from part of an old auto club map. The good thing is, unlike Google and other online maps, all the little streets are named (including some that don't really exist.) Warning: large file.

P.S. If you see the "F" of Flores St., at the bottom of the image...I used to live there.

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Maps/WeHo.8.jpg

Derek Feb 12, 2012 8:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westcork (Post 5587293)
That reminds me of the T-shirts we were printing a few years back. Nobody wanted to buy them... The intention was to print them for every LA Neighborhood, and sell them through local markets and convenience stores.

[IMG]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7196/6...6d21d247b2.jpg Echo Park T-Shirt by Westcork, on Flickr[/IMG]

Nobody bought those? I think they're awesome. If I lived in LA I'd totally get one.

sopas ej Feb 12, 2012 4:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slaverne (Post 5587222)
We filmed on both the WB and Paramount backlots, in Hancock Park, at the Wilshire Ebell Theater, The Orpheum and LA Theaters and the old Ren-Mar studio (now called Red Studio) in Hollywood. There were other locations around town. Int/Ext Peppy's house was 56 Fremont Place. Int/Ext George and Doris' house was 104 Fremont Place. The Laboratory and jail in the movie within the movie was at the Eagle Rock substation. I hope we do well on Oscar night.

Oh wow, quite a number of places around town. I hope you do well on Oscar night too!

sopas ej Feb 12, 2012 4:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westcork (Post 5587293)
That reminds me of the T-shirts we were printing a few years back. Nobody wanted to buy them... The intention was to print them for every LA Neighborhood, and sell them through local markets and convenience stores.

[IMG]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7196/6...6d21d247b2.jpg Echo Park T-Shirt by Westcork, on Flickr[/IMG]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 5587850)
Nobody bought those? I think they're awesome. If I lived in LA I'd totally get one.

I concur. I'd totally get one too. And knowing how people are, I would think that some people would've started collecting t-shirts for every possible LA neighborhood.

westcork Feb 12, 2012 5:07 PM

LAPL new pictures added Feb 8, 2012
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00095/
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00096/

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The North One Feb 12, 2012 5:09 PM

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Why hello there! would you like to meet my boobs?

slaverne Feb 12, 2012 5:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 5588003)
Oh wow, quite a number of places around town. I hope you do well on Oscar night too!

Thanks so much!!

I have a question. I'm researching a TNT pilot called LA Noir. Have there been postings with photos of the Central Ave. jazz district from the 40s?

westcork Feb 12, 2012 6:21 PM

Here's a strange map that shows an incomplete Harbor Freeway. I can't seem to find the date:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/maps/lg/MAP_0064.jpg
LAPL
http://jpg1.lapl.org/maps/lg/MAP_0063.jpg
LAPL

sopas ej Feb 12, 2012 7:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slaverne (Post 5588029)
Thanks so much!!

I have a question. I'm researching a TNT pilot called LA Noir. Have there been postings with photos of the Central Ave. jazz district from the 40s?

Not that I can recall off the top of my head, not any recent ones, anyway. But here's a picture of the Dunbar Hotel from 1938:
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/91/dunbar1938.jpg
USC Archive

Here's a shot of the Dunbar in 1928:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics25/00032400.jpg
LAPL

Lincoln Theatre, Central and 23rd, 1962
http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater2/00015353.jpg
LAPL

Cafe Zombie (5434 S. Central Avenue) police roundup, 1947. Joseph Adolphus Lewis was found with marijuana in his guitar case
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics34/00036715.jpg
LAPL

A youth at Cafe Zombie.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics34/00036710.jpg
LAPL

1942. A table at the Downbeat Club, 4201 South Central Avenue.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics04/00001857.jpg
LAPL

An advert from 1941.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics04/00001852.jpg
LAPL

The Last Word nightclub, 4205 S. Central Avenue, 1941.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics04/00001848.jpg
LAPL

Here's an auto repair shop at 2322 S. Central Avenue, 1927.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics03/00001261.jpg
LAPL

Central Avenue and 41st Street, circa 1944.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics05/00002063.jpg
LAPL

Dunbar Cocktail Lounge and Grill, circa 1945
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics05/00002072.jpg
LAPL

A handbill, circa 1945.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics05/00002065.jpg
LAPL

Downbeat Club, circa 1941.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics04/00001850.jpg
LAPL

Club Alabam, circa 1945. Central Avenue and 42nd Street.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics05/00002070.jpg
LAPL

I wish I could find exteriors of the nightclubs.

sopas ej Feb 12, 2012 7:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westcork (Post 5588102)

Wow, looking at the above map, you can see the 4-level, but north of there, it looks like the Arroyo Seco Parkway wasn't even extended to that point yet. Very interesting!

slaverne Feb 12, 2012 7:57 PM

Thank you so much!!! These are so helpful. We are doing a pitch and need images to suggest the feel of the series. I've had a hard time finding images for this particular part of LA in the 40s. This forum is such a wonderful resource.

GaylordWilshire Feb 12, 2012 7:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westcork (Post 5588102)
Here's a strange map that shows an incomplete Harbor Freeway. I can't seem to find the date:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Z...2520PM.bmp.jpg LAPL

Great map. It's dated May 15, 1952

GaylordWilshire Feb 12, 2012 9:02 PM

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...85847939_n.jpgVintage Los Angeles

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View

Not long ago, I posted a clip similar to the following one--early '50s Sunset Plaza color. In terms of L.A.
nostalgia, it's just the kind of thing that makes my mouth water: youtube


P.S.: A question: Not that I don't think it's the fair thing to do, but why are we required to post photo sources here, and facebook page photos, for example, do not seem ever to have any attributions? The top shot here is a case in point.

minkykat Feb 13, 2012 12:14 AM

Have been reading the book LA NOIR, enjoying it very much.

Hubby wants to know; what was the exact address of Mickey Cohen's bombed out manse? I know that it was on Moreno Ave. Anyone have the addy or some pictures?

Thanks!

GaylordWilshire Feb 13, 2012 1:27 AM

:previous:

Just enter "Moreno" in the search box, and you will find it....

nickdahammer Feb 13, 2012 3:52 AM

I'll buy one! Have any Mt. Washingtons?

Quote:

Originally Posted by westcork (Post 5587293)
That reminds me of the T-shirts we were printing a few years back. Nobody wanted to buy them... The intention was to print them for every LA Neighborhood, and sell them through local markets and convenience stores.

[IMG]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7196/6...6d21d247b2.jpg Echo Park T-Shirt by Westcork, on Flickr[/IMG]


ethereal_reality Feb 14, 2012 6:04 AM

I recently found these snapshots of a construction site at 1250 N. Main Street dated 1943.

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/1...in1943ebay.jpg
ebay



http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/3...n1943ebay1.jpg
ebay





below: I googled the address and found the building still intact at N. Main & Elmyra Street.

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/3...eelmyrast1.jpg
google street view




http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/692...teelmyrast.jpg
google street view







below: Across Elmyra Street from the Kelite Building is the William Mead Housing Project (415 units, 1942) built on the former site
of the Southern Refining & Amalgamated Oil Company (1900-1924). In other words it was built on toxic waste. :(


http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/728...hborwillia.jpg
google street view







below: Many of the units in the William Mead Homes feature attractive corner windows.


http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8018/...iammeadhom.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Mead_Homes






below: Aerial of the Kelite Building at 1250 N. Main Street (above the 'teardrop' A) and the neighboring William Mead Homes.
In this view Elmyra Street turns into Cardinal Street at the curve.

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/728...hborwillia.jpg
google street view






below: Noirish alert !

By pure coincidence, the construction snapshots I found on ebay led me to the site of a body dump (the same year as the 'Black Dahlia' murder).
A mail clerk stumbled across the naked body of 21 year old Rosenda Mondragon at North Main and Elmyra Street on the morning of July 8th 1947.


below: Information on the Rosenda Mondragon murder.

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3...bookgoogle.jpg
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4...ookgoogle1.jpg
Michael Newton



below: Looking south on North Main toward the intersection with Elmyra Street (the site of the body dump).

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4...iammeadbyl.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/auntylaurie/3352350210/

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GaylordWilshire Feb 14, 2012 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5589914)
I recently found these snapshots of a construction site at 1250 N. Main Street dated 1943.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-E...2520AM.bmp.jpg
ebay

I love these finds in the overlooked parts of L.A., usually east and north parts of the city. Great post, e_r. A developer today would probably not advertise his offering with the words "LOW RENT" on the sign.... I was also surprised to see that the small brick wall with "WILLIAM MEAD HOMES" on it is still there--that a car or truck hadn't taken it out at some point in the last 70 years.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View

GaylordWilshire Feb 14, 2012 10:04 PM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M...2520PM.bmp.jpgVintage Los Angeles

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-x...shollywood.jpgGoogle Street View

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011400.jpgLAPL


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