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Fab Fifties Fan Jan 26, 2012 7:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 5564913)
FredH, thanks for your fantastic and intriguing post about New China City, I really enjoyed it. And great work recognizing the 1001 N. Alameda building pre-Phillipe's! I wouldn't have noticed that, but glad you did. I think you just inspired me to have lunch there today.

Now, someone needs to do a little Phillipe's research! I wonder if we can dig up some old photos or stories about the former locations -- apparently there were several.

Thanks again Fred, really enjoyed your post.

Speaking of Phillipe's, farewell to the 10 cent cuppa Joe!
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business...cup-of-coffee/

so-cal-bear Jan 26, 2012 7:24 PM

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Fab Fifties Fan Jan 26, 2012 7:29 PM

Looking online, it seems that Phillipe's had three locations prior to 1001 N. Alameda.

It was started at 300 N. Alameda in 1908, moved to 246 Aliso in 1911 and then to 364 Aliso in 1918, where it stayed until construction of the Hollywood Freeway in 1951.

Here is the 346 Aliso location
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1905/philippes.jpg
The french dip was created at this location.

~Jon Paul

GaylordWilshire Jan 26, 2012 10:19 PM

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-f...nsnowwhite.jpgLife August 1, 1949

Henchman/Dwarf "Hooky" Rothman had been rubbed out in the boss's haberdashery a year before...

ethereal_reality Jan 26, 2012 10:38 PM

I agree 3940dxer....the half-forgotten stairs in the hills all have an air of mystery to them. It would be fun exploring them.

Fredh, I LOVED your post on China City! I always thought it was a part of Chinatown. I had no idea it was at a different location.

The Botiller Mansion is amazing G_W. Isn't it the one people usually associate with 'Sunset Boulevard'?

ethereal_reality Jan 26, 2012 10:53 PM

Here's a haberdasher with a flair for marketing.

CULVER of California, 1620 S. Flower St.

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/9...404culvers.jpg
found on ebay




this is the great part of the matchbook
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/813...04culvers1.jpg
found on ebay

GaylordWilshire Jan 26, 2012 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5565510)
The Botiller Mansion is amazing G_W. Isn't it the one people usually associate with 'Sunset Boulevard'?


Well, e_r, there wasn't actually a 10086 Sunset Blvd... and the house at Irving and Wilshire used for filming is gone. Maybe given its prominence on Sunset, Angelenos do think of the Botiller house when they think of Norma & Joe. Btw, in the movie Joe ducked the car reposessors in Judy Garland and Vincent Minnelli's driveway at 10000 Sunset...

ethereal_reality Jan 26, 2012 11:27 PM

514 S. Westlake Avenue

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/7...swestlakea.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/D...wdate=&hidate=





..and today.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3...8view514at.jpg
google street view


I think I liked it better decrepit.

ethereal_reality Jan 26, 2012 11:42 PM

The Centaur Cafe on Sunset Blvd. in 1935. I've never heard of this place before and the street address is unknown.
I can't quite make out the number on the awning. Anyone have access to a 1935 directory?


http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/869...rcafeonsun.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1327621083159

ethereal_reality Jan 27, 2012 12:41 AM

I just came across this photo and realized it's a continuation of the above photo.
This view is directly east of the Centaur Cafe (I recognized the house with the lattice balcony).


http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6...lvdoffices.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1327624993717


above: The offices of C. Ralph Sentney and Sentney-Robathan Builders. No street address is given.

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sopas ej Jan 27, 2012 1:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5563855)
But then we have the great leveler... garbage. Just like the humblest bungalow elsewhere in town, the grander than grand Resnicks have to put up with wheelybins in front of the house.


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-W...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View

That's funny, and it made me think: In the neighboring town to me, San Marino, which is EXTREMELY picky about property values and chock-full of city rules (and a wealthy city to boot), garbage cans aren't even put out front on trash day; for San Marino residents, the garbage is picked up directly from their back yards.

sopas ej Jan 27, 2012 1:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5564389)
I was shocked by the proximity of this community pool to the freeway and the exit ramp. After looking at the photo for a while
I noticed the top of a car in the bushes to the right and realized the entrance ramp was right behind the shrubbery.
Imagine the toxic air these kids were breathing (or the possibility of an out-of-control car careening into the pool).


Echo Park Pool July 9, 1958
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/8...uly91958us.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1327543743294






below: Here's the pool today still 'smooshed' into that small area. The actually pool looks like it's in disrepair.

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/619...poolaerial.jpg
google street view






OK...I'm done beating this dead horse. :)

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No worries, beat away! Great post! :)

I've driven by that building many times and I don't recall ever seeing water in the pool. I've walked around Echo Park Lake, but I never even noticed the pedestrian tunnels that go under the freeway. Very interesting!

Fab Fifties Fan Jan 27, 2012 1:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5565684)
I just came across this photo and realized it's a continuation of the above photo.
This view is directly east of the Centaur Cafe (I recognized the house with the lattice balcony).


http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6...lvdoffices.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1327624993717


above: The offices of C. Ralph Sentney and Sentney-Robathan Builders. No street address is given.

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Took quite a bit of digging (just the way I like it) and it appears that C. Ralph Sentney's office was at 9119 Sunset and Allan Dale's Centaur Cafe was at 9131.

Neither building is there anymore, but it looks like the house with the lattice work from the 1935 images may be the house with the two chimneys behind the parking lot.
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/668/9131sunset.jpg

~Jon Paul

ethereal_reality Jan 27, 2012 2:27 AM

:previous: Good job Jon Paul! I'm impressed.
We'll have to check out that house....but it looks like it's roof is missing!
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OOPS, you're talking about the house on the right aren't you?...I can see a resemblance now Jon Paul....my bad.

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ethereal_reality Jan 27, 2012 3:02 AM

I just looked through some different views and I believe you're right Jon Paul.


below: The 'lattice' house from Sunset blvd.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4...ceh2sunset.jpg
google street view





below: Aerial view...Sunset Blvd. at the bottom...Shoreham Drive at the top.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9484/latticeh2a.jpg
google street view





below: The 'lattice' house from Shoreham Drive....the view is mostly blocked my garages.

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7...shorehamdr.jpg
google street view

GaylordWilshire Jan 27, 2012 3:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 5565762)
That's funny, and it made me think: In the neighboring town to me, San Marino, which is EXTREMELY picky about property values and chock-full of city rules (and a wealthy city to boot), garbage cans aren't even put out front on trash day; for San Marino residents, the garbage is picked up directly from their back yards.

Sopas--- Interestingly, the less-desirable flats of Beverly Hills--the streets between Sunset and Santa Monica--have rear alleys from which the garbage is collected. Still you'd think that a couple as controlling of their environment as the Resnicks would pay whatever it cost to have their potato peelings removed from the service end of their house and not rely on municipal collection from the curb... or at least have designer wheelybins.

sopas ej Jan 27, 2012 3:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5565928)
Sopas--- Interestingly, the less-desirable flats of Beverly Hills--the streets between Sunset and Santa Monica--have rear alleys from which the garbage is collected. Still you'd think that a couple as controlling of their environment as the Resnicks would pay whatever it cost to have their potato peelings removed from the service end of their house and not rely on municipal collection from the curb... or at least have designer wheelybins.

Oh yes, I'm aware of the alleys of Beverly Hills and that their garbage is collected from the alleys; but in San Marino, the garbage men actually go into the backyards of people's homes and bring their cans to the truck. Now that's service!

I do see your point, though, about the Resnicks and designer wheelybins---perhaps a D&G logo on the green waste bin?

3940dxer Jan 27, 2012 3:33 AM

Candy Barr
 
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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5565124)
Mickey's shop wasn't the same one--his Michael's Exclusive Haberdashery (and later, but not for long, the Mickey Cohen Exclusive Haberdashery) was at 8804 Sunset. His henchman Hooky Rothman was shot to death here on August 18, 1948.

Wow, G_W. I'd never have guessed that Mickey Cohen was also a retailer of men's clothing! Out of curiosity I started reading about his life. It was quite interesting but I quickly became sidetracked by Miss Candy Barr, one of the many women in his life. (I read in one place that Mickey Cohen was asexual and if so, maybe Miss Barr was just eye candy for Mickey.) In any case she had a pretty colorful life, did well as a stripper and B girl, and was a heck of a looker. Here are some random bits and photos.

Mickey Cohen with Candy Barr on the Sunset Strip in 1959.

http://teretereba.com/blog/media/blo...barr-cohen.jpg
http://teretereba.com/blog/2010/05/2...hen-the-opera/


Candy Barr plays vinyl. Like Lila Leeds, she just didn't know how to care for an LP. Bad girl.

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ld...98p9o1_500.jpg
http://retrodoll.tumblr.com/post/2367148209/candy-barr


Also like Lila Leeds, she was busted for pot. Twice. Think she ever smoked with Mickey?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-X5EWcFsQOY...ownwd_1969.jpg
http://quixoticjoust.blogspot.com/20...-dean-and.html


Like Mickey, she had troubles with the IRS.

http://dkse.net/david/Candy.pot.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8erHKL_iPa...an_11-1959.jpg

Don't know the story behind this one, but she looks happy.

http://dkse.net/david/candy.behind.bars.jpg
http://www.allstarpics.net/0033651/0...-barr-pic.html

The FBI looked into Candy Barr's relationship with Jack Ruby.


http://dkse.net/david/candyb.FBI.jpg
http://www.buzzfeed.com/dulltooldimb...-document-1zd9


Did this club belong to Mickey? I'll bet he was at least connected to it somehow. Given the choice, I'd rather see Candy Barr at the Largo than visit Marineland.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/phot...candy_barr.jpg
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thed...ek8/index.html


There are hundreds of Candy Barr photos on the web, but most seem a little risque for this thread. Here's a safer one with, supposedly, Joan Collins.


http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2417/1...743_z.jpg?zz=1

http://www.flickr.com/photos/plastic...7602897621936/


Well, enough cheesecake I guess. I'm probably boring some of you gents. ;)

In the early 90's Candy Barr (I love saying her name, in case you hadn't noticed) died from complications of pneumonia. Her grandson, Ryan Barr, named his first daughter Candy Barr after her. He also has another daughter, Snickers.

ethereal_reality Jan 27, 2012 3:38 AM

:previous: Great Candy Barr post 3940dxer! My last name is Barr and my parents almost named my sister Candy.
They thought it would be a cute name....unaware of the infamous stripper.



Quote:

Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 5555667)
How about Dino's? Of course, that was Dean Martin's bar-restaurant on the strip, just a few blocks away at 8524 Sunset. They had a cozy fireplace, a good bar, and superb views. It was actually a pretty great little spot, within walking distance of my WeHo digs back then, and even a nobody like me was made to feel welcome. Man, I'd love to go back there one more time. Good memories. (The menu is dated 1959, well before my time there. ;))http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RS9H0TpQnt...3466b6db47.jpg

http://martinostimemachine.blogspot....nos-lodge.html


Here's a slide of Dino's from the 1960s. (sorry, I don't have the software to get rid of the watermark)

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9...1960swmark.jpg
found on ebay

3940dxer Jan 27, 2012 4:00 AM

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Originally Posted by FredH (Post 5564654)
...Boy, that building across the street sure looks familiar...

http://dkse.net/david/Phillipes/00057490.jpg
LAPL

...HOLY CRAP, ITS PHILIPPE'S!

Here's a photo I snapped today from a similar PoV.

http://dkse.net/david/Phillipes/100_9040.JPG


Inside, I took a few photos of the history that adorns the walls.


http://dkse.net/david/Phillipes/100_9044.JPG

http://dkse.net/david/Phillipes/Philippes.2.jpg

The Pork Dip was good, but I still think Cole's is better. :whisper:


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