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HossC Dec 11, 2020 1:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9130470)

I just found this 1970s view of Pensick & Gordon on flickr


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/cTOgwu.jpg
flickr

"At this time all boarded up and abandoned. Today, it has been converted into lofts as part of the clean up of Downtown.
On the corner of 3rd and Santa Fe Ave. The structure was built in 1907 and was originally a wholesale grocers."
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It's now known as the Toy Warehouse Lofts. From toywarehouselofts.net:
The Toy Warehouse Lofts, converted in 2001, was the first of the derelict downtown commercial buildings to be made into live-work space under the Los Angeles Adaptive Reuse Ordinance. In 1907 grocer R. L. Craig commissioned architects Morgan And Walls to design a new warehouse for his growing business. The firm, noted in succeeding years for several downtown buildings including the Richfield Tower and several theaters, created the three-level structure with understated but elegant brickwork. Craig died before the building became operational and his wife, Nancy Tuttle Craig, took over and built the business into the largest grocery distributor in the city. The operation quickly outgrew the building and Mrs Craig, one of the most successful businesswomen in early Los Angeles, moved to a larger warehouse nearby.

Today, the lower level houses administrative offices and the student bookstore for Sci Arc, whose main campus is across the street, and Hammer and Spear, a curated specialty shop offering personal and home care products along with unique found objects.

The upper two floors were converted into 20 loft-style condos and are inhabited by a mixture of creative people including artists, musicians, poets, photographers, jewelers, and writers.

odinthor Dec 11, 2020 9:37 PM

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It appears that the Toy Warehouse folks have conflated two different structures for R.L. Craig and Co.

R.L. Craig himself died June 27, 1901, at the tender age of 41 . . .

https://i.postimg.cc/j2n5Hpwn/RLCraig-LAT-01-6-28.jpg
LA Times, 6/28/1901; first paragraph of a much much longer article, with a picture of Mr. Craig.

. . . just as arrangements for the R.L. Craig Co. for a structure which was one previous to the Toy Warehouse building were coming to fruition:

https://i.postimg.cc/6qMkQq5d/RLCraig-LAT-01-6-30.jpg
LA Times, 6/30/1901

ethereal_reality Dec 12, 2020 6:00 AM

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Here's a great companion slide to the Pantages slide I posted a couple of days ago.


In this view we're looking at the theater from the west in 1965.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Bg9lqW.jpg
found on eBay a month or so ago.

It includes a pretty good view of the Frolic Room. .(it's still there)

For a second, I thought Gale Gordon had opened a store.

And the large mosaic on the Washington Savings building is quite impressive. ...I don't think I have noticed it before.


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HossC Dec 12, 2020 6:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9131845)

For a second, I thought Gale Gordon had opened a store.

It could be worse. As I was glancing around the photo, I saw that the poster for "The Pawnbroker" had a word on it starting with "CO" and ending with "US", and my mind filled in "Coronavirus" instead of "Continuous"! Roll on 2021...

odinthor Dec 12, 2020 4:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9125902)
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Here's an interesting rppc currently on eBay


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/684RzL.jpg
eBay






Let's take a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/AAq4Ew.jpg

On the left you can see the L.(?) Watson & Son Meat Market.




And the back tells us this is Glendale CA.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/UcEdJj.jpg



What we don't know is the name of the street.



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e_r, I believe we're looking south on Brand Boulevard, between Wilson Avenue (the former 3rd) and Broadway (the former 4th).

https://i.postimg.cc/VNpHLN0C/Glendale-Sanborn1908.jpg
Sanborn 1908, LOC

The arrow indicates a location marked "MEAT," which is (I hope) the A. Watson firm of the RPPC.

Remarkably, the view today is almost identical . . .

https://i.postimg.cc/Xq0HdD8N/Glendale-Brand-Now.jpg
gsv

. . . in as far as there is still a thoroughfare with structures along its side.

BillinGlendaleCA Dec 12, 2020 7:01 PM

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Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 9132015)
e_r, I believe we're looking south on Brand Boulevard, between Wilson Avenue (the former 3rd) and Broadway (the former 4th).

https://i.postimg.cc/VNpHLN0C/Glendale-Sanborn1908.jpg
Sanborn 1908, LOC

The arrow indicates a location marked "MEAT," which is (I hope) the A. Watson firm of the RPPC.

Remarkably, the view today is almost identical . . .

https://i.postimg.cc/Xq0HdD8N/Glendale-Brand-Now.jpg
gsv

. . . in as far as there is still a thoroughfare with structures along its side.

We're moving well into the 20th century here in Glendale, Brnad Blvd. has also been paved.

(Your links are not showing.)

ethereal_reality Dec 13, 2020 2:37 AM

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:previous: What links are you talking about, Bill? ..*scratches head*


Fantastic sleuthing, odinthor. . .you deserve of these praising guys - - - - > :worship:


I don't believe I've ever seen a street named Mary.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/rsOCFD.jpg
Sanborn 1908

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BillinGlendaleCA Dec 13, 2020 2:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9132392)
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:previous: What links are you talking about, Bill? ..*scratches head*


Fantastic sleuthing, odinthor. . .you deserve of these praising guys - - - - > :worship:


I don't believe I've ever seen a street named Mary.


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The links weren't showing when I first looked, I even refreshed...forum weirdness. That street is now Maryland, except the two blocks between Wilson and Harvard which were recently named Artsakh.

BillinGlendaleCA Dec 13, 2020 5:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9125902)
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Here's an interesting rppc currently on

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/684RzL.jpg
eBay



What we don't know is the name of the street.



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Here's an overlay of the Sanborn from Odinthor's post and the aerial from Google Maps:

https://i.postimg.cc/SNJFcg0G/Meat-Market.jpg

Now the problem is the Sanborn was using the old street names and numbers. This is now the 100 block of N. Brand(it was the 300 block of S. Brand). The meat market building would have been further south down Brand close to Broadway. The buildings in the photo are all gone, the meat market building with a relatively new building replacing it or it's successor and the two other buildings being replaced in the late 1920's.

So here's what the modern view would look like(from GSV):

https://i.postimg.cc/xTkhXqHx/Meat-Market-now.jpg

ethereal_reality Dec 14, 2020 2:06 AM

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mystery racetrack


"RPPC LOS ANGELES CA ? DARE DEVIL AUTO RACER ON 75% GRADE TRACK"


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/l2cne6.jpg
eBay

As you can see in the seller's description the owners aren't sure this is Los Angeles. . .

. . .but if you look closely at the Haynes Auto Sales Co. sign it appears that Los Angeles is written below the word "auto"


I looked it up to make sure.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/gKXF7m.jpg
LAPL








I am baffled by the two hanging lights. (close-up below)


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/YWo0fu.jpg

They appear to be jerry-rigged out of axles!

And just where, exactly, are they positioned - over the track or over the pit stop? (the "pit" is mentioned twice in the hand-written description on the photo)


"A Dare Devil in Pit - 75% Grade."

"One man killed in Pit."


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odinthor Dec 14, 2020 4:54 AM

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e_r, from what we see in the pic, can we imagine that the track is "cup-like"? Venice had a cup-like track:

https://i.postimg.cc/KvJN5jqX/Auto-T...LAT-14-6-4.jpg
LA Times, 6/4/1914.

Note that a "big Haynes auto" was present . . . and that there was a "slant of 75 deg." (as the article states), alias "75% Grade" (as the postcard writer would have it).

Blaster Dec 14, 2020 2:43 PM

Actress Mona Freeman, I believe.

ethereal_reality Dec 16, 2020 12:07 AM

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....Remnants of a 1919 photo album, Pico Heights.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/DvCLg5.jpg

.....I wasn't aware that Ardmore used to be "J Street".

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/5vFiyo.jpg
found on eBay a few years back.







..Let's take a better look at the Rosedale Crematorium. (since it's sideways in the album)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/FsG5Wg.jpg

...I like how the small circular window(s) in the dome mimic the much larger circular window(s) on the lower part of the building.





While I'm being somewhat redundant here a larger look at 1109 S. Ardmore and the young woman posing in front.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/shtX0d.jpg


I believe she might be the same woman posing by the crematorium. (see below)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/9CSmZV.jpg

hmm. . .or maybe that isn't her. ... Could it be a spectre? :runaway:





for search purposes:...1109 S. Ardmore...Pico Heights...Rosedale Crematorium...7-24-19

ethereal_reality Dec 16, 2020 12:27 AM

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I was certain the Rosedale Crematorium was still there but the current dome doesn't come close to matching the dome in the 1919 photograph.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/OysamC.jpg
GSV


Perhaps the 1919 version burned down. ...(well, it is a crematorium)



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odinthor Dec 16, 2020 4:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9134812)
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....Remnants of a 1919 photo album, Pico Heights.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/DvCLg5.jpg

.....I wasn't aware that Ardmore used to be "J Street".

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e_r, 1106 S. Ardmore has had its share of drama:

https://i.postimg.cc/Rq50v6jh/1106-A...AT-35-3-13.jpg
LA Times, 3/13/1935

It looks somewhat different nowadays . . . but its neighbor to the right appears to date well back. The retaining wall eagerly awaits the next earthquake.

https://i.postimg.cc/Fs3y3jFP/1106-Ardmore-South.jpg
gsv

ethereal_reality Dec 16, 2020 8:27 AM

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One more look at ths recently posted mystery snapshot. . .

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/l2cne6.jpg
Los Angeles

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 9132987)

e_r, from what we see in the pic, can we imagine that the track is "cup-like"? Venice had a cup-like track:

https://i.postimg.cc/KvJN5jqX/Auto-T...LAT-14-6-4.jpg
LA Times, 6/4/1914.

Note that a "big Haynes auto" was present . . . and that there was a "slant of 75 deg." (as the article states), alias "75% Grade" (as the postcard writer would have it).

:previous: Interesting summation, odinthor.

I thought I had found the "cup-like" track when I happened upon this original photograph on picclick

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/fgBzfA.jpg
picclick

But it isn't Venice Beach. . .it's Long Beach.

Seller's description:...RARE 1920s PHOTO OF A COUPLE AT LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA SHOWING RECKLESS ROSS MILLMAN'S WALL OF DEATH IN THE BACKGROUND


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/uIE3rO.jpg

Long Beach...Wall of Death


At first I wondered if this was, indeed, Long Beach California. (there's one in N.Y. as well) I compared the pier in this photo with the Long Beach pier from around the same time periods and it's a match.

But I looked through old timey photographs of the Long Beach amusement area and wasn't able to find a single one that showed the 'Wall of Death'. ...so there's that.





Let's take a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/JNxRwu.jpg
detail


In the mystery photo (at top) you can see the back of a facade (for lack of a better word) at the upper edge of the track. There's no nearby 'facade' that's tall enough in the Long Beach photo.


It's still a mystery.



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Noir_Noir Dec 16, 2020 1:02 PM

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HossC will clear up the mystery for you. :)

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...ostcount=21784

ethereal_reality Dec 18, 2020 12:18 AM

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Thanks for reminder, Noir Noir. I appreciate it. :)

So the hand-written description on the ebay snapshot was spot on.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/kM5obr.jpg



. . .but it doesn't solve the mystery of the 'Wall of Death' in Long Beach.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/JNxRwu.jpg
complete photograph Here





Sorry if I'm. . .
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/89/BT7DVJ.gif
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ethereal_reality Dec 18, 2020 1:42 AM

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Christmas 1917


Attorney Cedric & Helen Johnson at 363 S. Occidental Blvd. Los Angeles RPPC 1917



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/szD5M0.jpg
eBay



reverse
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/b0p0un.jpg



The seller included this little blurb.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/IS31v6.jpg
eBay



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ethereal_reality Dec 18, 2020 2:45 AM

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We have seen 'Dad' Bailey's small newspaper stand on NLA but I don't believe we have seen this larger 'walk-in' Dad Bailey's newstand.


Here it is.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/ijl2Uz.jpg
flickr

"This was Charles Bailey second business. He worked for years in the luggage business and like a piece of Hollywood fiction, "It's a Wonderful Life" the Fictional Bailey Family almost lost their business. Due to someone not paying the insurance in time. A fire took his business and it was then that he found out someone forgot to pay the insurance. Old enough to retire, but without much money he opened up this newsstand. It thrived and got bigger and he worked there for many years, he lived until he was ninety years old. This is his bigger stand"....David Wayne Bailey


but no mention of an address. :(






As a reminder here is 'Dad' Bailey's original newstand.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/1Iqqvj.jpg
flickr

skyscraperpage

This smaller stand was thought to be on or near Florence in South Los Angeles close to USC.

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