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MartinTurnbull Nov 6, 2020 8:13 PM

The Garden of Allah Hotel sign turns up
 
[QUOTE=CaliNative;9091411]^^^

This belongs back in L.A./Hollywood. It looks wrong and sad in the snow.

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The good news is that the sign has been rescued from the wilds of Michigan and is now back in California. It's not LA/Hollywood, but it's closer than it was.

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ethereal_reality Nov 7, 2020 4:57 AM

I'm glad the Garden of Allah sign in back in California.


Earlier today I happened upon a group of 14 amateur slides of the Skid Row area in the 1960s. (and perhaps a few from the late 1950s) The slides are being sold separately.

The majority of the slides are of the L.A. Mission and are a bit faded.

Like this one.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/MSrgkM.jpg
eBay

Do you see the store (Borin) to the right of the mission - I'll show you a better pic of it below.










The following three slides aren't as faded and I find them the most intriguing.


#1

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/J70tLK.jpg
eBay

The seller dates this one as 1967.










Here's a poor man down on his luck. :(

#2

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/mWRmjU.jpg
eBay

I couldn't help but notice the old timey lettering on the wall behind the man. And at lower left here are three numbers of a street address - 695.

Do you think we can figure out what business this is/was?






This next slide shows a man hanging laundry on a rooftop clothesline. No doubt a SRO. (or the roof of the mission?)

#3

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/oL2TvN.jpg
eBay


I think there's a possibility we can figure out which rooftop this is if one of you fine sleuths recognize any of the buildings in the distance.



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ScottyB Nov 7, 2020 6:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9099005)









Here's a poor man down on his luck. :(

#2

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/mWRmjU.jpg
eBay

I couldn't help but notice the old timey lettering on the wall behind the man. And at lower left here are three numbers of a street address - 695.

Do you think we can figure out what business this is/was?





The bricks make me think of Olvera St....

HossC Nov 7, 2020 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9099005)

This next slide shows a man hanging laundry on a rooftop clothesline. No doubt a SRO. (or the roof of the mission?)

#3

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/oL2TvN.jpg
eBay

I think there's a possibility we can figure out which rooftop this is if one of you fine sleuths recognize any of the buildings in the distance.

You're correct, e_r, the photographer was on the roof of 443 S Los Angeles Street - the Los Angeles Mission shown in your first picture. I've put a red "X" on the image below. There's more pictures of the LA Mission here.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds
Google Maps

The brick building on the left is the old Excelsior Laundry at 422 S Los Angeles Street, seen here in 1933.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds
USC Digital Library

The building on the right with the water tower (top-center of the Google image) is the old Westinghouse Building at 420 San Pedro Street, also seen here in 1933. My full post on the building is here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7706878)

Now known as Little Tokyo Lofts, I can't find any previous mentions (I searched for the old and new names, and the address). In its early days it was the Westinghouse Building. The view below is from 1933.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
USC Digital Library


Martin Pal Nov 7, 2020 8:51 PM

Over 50 period Los Angeles photos set to a song being revived today...

Video Link

CaliNative Nov 7, 2020 10:17 PM

[QUOTE=MartinTurnbull;9098582]
Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9091411)
^^^

This belongs back in L.A./Hollywood. It looks wrong and sad in the snow.

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The good news is that the sign has been rescued from the wilds of Michigan and is now back in California. It's not LA/Hollywood, but it's closer than it was.

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Good news. Now build a new Garden of Allah around it.

CaliNative Nov 7, 2020 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9099419)
Over 50 period Los Angeles photos set to a song being revived today...

Video Link

A day of celebration indeed for many. You know who has been fired. :cheers:

ethereal_reality Nov 8, 2020 1:21 AM

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SKID ROW SLIDES



re: The man hanging laundry on the rooftop clothesline.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC
e_r, the photographer was on the roof of 443 S Los Angeles Street

Thanks, Hoss. I honestly thought it was a SRO and not the Los Angeles Mission. I'm glad you cleared that up for me. :)




Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottyB (Post 9099040)

The bricks make me think of Olvera St....

I thought the same, ScottyB, but the lettering doesn't seem to be. . how do I say this?. . .um. . .touristy.


And then I noticed that one of the other slides from the Skid Row group (shown below) shows an arrest at the end of a brick alley.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/iO3ydI.jpg
eBay

So perhaps the down-and-out man is in one of the brick alleys in the Skid Row area? (hmmm. . . are there any brick alleys left in downtown Los Angeles?)



Here's a closer look at the arrest. (it appears to be two dudes on motorcycles)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/ZCLtY5.jpg
detail


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sadykadie2 Nov 8, 2020 3:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9099488)
A day of celebration indeed for many. You know who has been fired. :cheers:

Here here:tup:

HossC Nov 8, 2020 9:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9099689)

And then I noticed that one of the other slides from the Skid Row group (shown below) shows an arrest at the end of a brick alley.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/iO3ydI.jpg
eBay

So perhaps the down-and-out man is in one of the brick alleys in the Skid Row area? (hmmm. . . are there any brick alleys left in downtown Los Angeles?)

This one was taken behind the LA Mission on Werdin Place. The bricks are now partially covered, but it's likely that the sleeping man was somewhere in this vicinty. The 1936 CD lists the Graphic Arts Ink Co at 240 Werdin Place, but that's the nearest I could find to the old writing on the wall behind the sleeping man.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds
GSV

CityBoyDoug Nov 8, 2020 6:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9099005)
I'm glad the Garden of Allah sign in back in California.

Here's a poor man down on his luck. :(

#2

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/mWRmjU.jpg
eBay



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This colorful photo was posted by er.

Mackerm Nov 8, 2020 9:27 PM

Behold, Skunk Place:
https://i.postimg.cc/zXWSf3HY/Citrus-Union-SDSU.jpg
SDSU Library

Or, as described in Don Enrique Dalton of the Azusa by C.C. Baker:
Here was a rancheria of those Indians nominally attached to Mission San Gabriel, called' in the Shoshonean
Asuksagna, and in the Serrano dialect Ashukshavit, meaning, lit-
erally, skunk place. 4 It was doubtless so named from the fact that
skunks infested the hill which in pioneer days was occupied by the
adobe dwelling and extensive ranch buildings, displaced now by
Citrus Union High School in the present Azusa.
Citrus Union High School is long gone, replaced by a small development called Azusa Heritage, which has a Facebook page containing even more historical illustrations.

Some of the photos show a retaining wall, which remains, though no longer faced with stone. Notice the two pillars on either side of the stairs. I think a reconstructed version of these pillars might be visible in Google Street view:

https://i.postimg.cc/d0yXBJL2/Skunk-Place.jpg
GSV

This is at Cerritos and 6th in Azusa

CaliNative Nov 9, 2020 12:31 AM

Delete

Martin Pal Nov 9, 2020 7:10 PM

Why I happened to see this online today I have no idea, but I'm posting it for obvious reasons:

https://www.irishnews.com/picturesar...1bc53542a6.jpg
https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2018/10/20/news/1464039/

Lwize Nov 10, 2020 3:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9101190)
Why I happened to see this online today I have no idea, but I'm posting it for obvious reasons:

[IMG]Overpass Banner[/IMG]
https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2018/10/20/news/1464039/

Not relevant to this thread, though. This isn't even in Los Angeles.

ethereal_reality Nov 10, 2020 5:56 PM

I believe Martin posted it because it looks like it says 'NOIRISH'.

Martin Pal Nov 10, 2020 8:47 PM

:previous:

As Ed McMahon would've said, "You are correct, sir!"

P.S.: I thought it was "obvious reasons." Oh well.

ethereal_reality Nov 10, 2020 9:09 PM

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I don't believe we seen this 1980 proposal titled 'A Grand Avenue'. (Carlos Diniz, artist)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/7tZcEc.jpg
experiments.californiahistoricalsociety

"Carlos Diniz (artist), Overview Rendering of “A Grand Avenue,” 1980
Lawrence Halprin, A Life Spent Changing Places
(Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania, 2011) Archive of Carlos Diniz / Family of Carlos Diniz"


I'm a bit confused by the information. The artist is Mr. Diniz but the architect is Lawrence Halprin. Am I reading that correctly?



I wasn't reading it correctly.

The archichect is Barton Meyers


Here's the largest image I was able to find of the project.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/0fWSop.jpg
adc-exhibits.museum

Pretty cool!

more info:

Description-
"In 1980, the Los Angeles Community Redevelopment Agency was planning to demolish the Bunker Hill area of the city and organized a competition for a team of architects to design a new urban center.
'A Grand Avenue' proposal was created by developer Robert Maguire and led by Barton Myers Associates and the Urban Innovations Group.

Barton Myers and Edgardo Contini designed a mixed-use development with housing, shops, hotels, parks, and offices. Myers designed two residential towers, both containing ample outdoor space for residents. The plan was to integrate the new development into the surrounding area, bridging the older neighborhood to the east with the newer areas of the downtown core. Their plan did not win the competition, but was widely admired by architects and the public."

adc-exhibits.museum


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ethereal_reality Nov 10, 2020 10:29 PM

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Here's another original slide from the 'Skid Row' group.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/2Ha5y1.jpg
eBay


There are a few interesting storefronts. Lucky Pawn Shop - a laundry - Lou's Cafe - Al's Bar - and a liquor store.



My favorite is Al's Bar with its streamline facade and marquee. (and round window?)



Here's a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/KESFXE.jpg


I believe we have seen Al's on nla in the past but I haven't been able to find the post(s).

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Lwize Nov 11, 2020 2:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9102727)
:previous:

As Ed McMahon would've said, "You are correct, sir!"

P.S.: I thought it was "obvious reasons." Oh well.

I read it literally, and didn't understand the statement you were trying to make.

Sorry. Carry on.


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