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BDiH Dec 29, 2019 1:20 AM

Rainbow Studios
 
The dark, two story building below Capitol Records was Rainbow Studios, a rehearsal and recording studio where many song writers plugged songs and famous singers recorded over the years.

ethereal_reality Dec 29, 2019 6:23 AM

A mystery location.

I thought the Richfield Service Station in this slide from 1954 might be the same station that was in the background of the Church Goin' Lady photograph....[it's not]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/NRxCjX.jpg
eBay


It appears that the photographer has climbed up on a roof to get this view of the Hollywood Sign.

I'm not sure what's going on with the building behind the station. It looks like the windows and doors are missing. (there might be a guy in green on a ladder)

I find the squarish gray building on the left intriguing for some reason. There's also an interesting apartment building at far right.



HERE'S THE HOUSE BEHIND THE STATION.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/YNmw17.jpg
DETAIL

I've circled, what I believe to be, a man on a ladder. (or am I seeing things that aren't there)


This is an original slide so it is new to NLA.

Lorendoc Dec 29, 2019 7:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8786359)
A mystery location.

I thought the Richfield Service Station in this slide from 1954 might be the same station that was in the background of the Church Goin' Lady photograph....[it's not]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/NRxCjX.jpg
eBay


This is Franklin between Carmen and Gower. The Richfield station was at 6100 Franklin. The large brick apartment in the middle-right is still there at 1975 N Beachwood Drive.

jtown Dec 29, 2019 7:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8785894)
Yelp says they're still there. I've always wanted to try that place!

Also commenting on Paul's Kitchen on San Pedro Street. I was just there two weeks ago. Glad that I remembered to take cash. No cards accepted. And the tab can get a bit steep. A true journey back in time.

HossC Dec 29, 2019 2:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 8785693)

:previous: post referencing rail stations rekindled thoughts of another NLA discussion concerning the Palms Depot. This video includes glimpses of Palms Depot at 10223 National Blvd. circa 1928. "The Ol' Gray Hoss" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJtH9znL9LU

Can we have a little less of "The Ol' Gray Hoss" please - "The Middle-Aged Graying Hoss" is more accurate. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 8785693)

Speaking of Culver City, is anyone familiar with "Hotel Lone Wolf?" This video purports to depict the back of that structure at or near 8874 Washington Blvd., circa 1924 from the Our Gang short "Fast Company." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5HIxn3Sx4w Perhaps the structure had different names, but in any event, it looks substantial enough to have warranted some NLA attention. No obvious CD listing.

I couldn't find any trace of the Hotel Lone Wolf. The video shows it to the southwest of Landmark Street...

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...lLoneWolf1.jpg
Youtube

...which didn't really exist in the 1920s. Here's a 1928 view with the current location of Landmark Street shown. The building by the black '+' is the front of the Hal Roach studios.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...lLoneWolf2.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

Here is our mystery building, which the video identifies as "Back of the Hotel Lone Wolf". With its Tudor style, I did consider the Cotton Club as a possible location, but the front didn't match and the rear was very plain. It was located just off the top-right corner of the aerial above.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...lLoneWolf3.jpg
Youtube

The Cotton Club is circled in blue in the view below which I've cropped from an image I found on John Bengtson's silentlocations.com. I think the mystery building may be the one I've arrowed in green. Although it falls outside the red Hal Roach Studios boundary, I think it was part of the studio. A 1920 image at hollywoodphotographs.com appears to show a barn-like structure there, while a 1921 image at hollywoodphotographs.com shows construction in progress. "Fast Company" came out in 1924.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...lLoneWolf4.jpg
silentlocations.com/Bison Archives

As the first aerial above shows, the area was empty by 1928, so I'm guessing that it was just a set/façade. I'll have to see if it appeared in any other Hal Roach movies.

Godzilla Dec 29, 2019 3:10 PM

I couldn't find any trace of the Hotel Lone Wolf. The video shows it to the southwest of Landmark Street...

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...lLoneWolf1.jpg
Youtube

...which didn't really exist in the 1920s. Here's a 1928 view with the current location of Landmark Street shown. The building by the black '+' is the front of the Hal Roach studios.



As the first aerial above shows, the area was empty by 1928, so I'm guessing that it was just a set/façade. I'll have to see if it appeared in any other Hal Roach movies.[/QUOTE]




Thanks for substantiating my confusion. My first impression was that the depicted structure was not a set piece, but rather an existing edifice located at an entirely different location. A version of the "full" short is available (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7pAHm-Vb_c) but there does not appear to be any direct reference to "Lone Wolf." As an aside, "The Cocoanut Grove," is mentioned, which presumably refers to the then recently constructed Ambassador Hotel.

unihikid Dec 29, 2019 3:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8786182)
https://www.insidehook.com/wp-conten...size=971%2C607
IHack

Tommy’s | Est. 1946
Eastside of LA

The Order: A double cheeseburger with pickles and a tomato slice....at the original location on Beverly. No place like it, anywhere.

CBD, not much has changed in this picture except, i think the white house is now a Taco Bell (it might still be there; where the Studebaker Lark is parked, might be the drive through area that i go through often, i'm just not too sure). The Richfield station is most likely the same building, its a "Hand" car wash now. The Tommy's stand is of course still open. From where the picture is taken is a"L" shaped new building where you can place your order, if the older stand is too crowded.

odinthor Dec 29, 2019 6:08 PM

On trawling for items concerning the location of the Mission Cafe, of which I have a newly-acquired postcard, I found that its location 527 S. Spring Street had a quite diverse career. Here are some of the items I found, chronologically arranged:

1893:

https://i.postimg.cc/FH5rC7CM/527-SS...r7-29-1893.jpg
LA Herald, 7/29/1893

July, 1902:

https://i.postimg.cc/ncQV1v2K/527-SS...Her7-21-02.jpg
LA Herald, 7/21/1902

October, 1902:

https://i.postimg.cc/RFD97Fnb/527-SS...Her10-5-02.jpg
LA Herald, 10/5/1902

November, 1902:

https://i.postimg.cc/T2K5Z5Q1/527-SS...Her11-9-02.jpg
LA Herald, 11/9/1902

A few days later, November, 1902:

https://i.postimg.cc/ry7RcyYJ/527-SS...er11-13-02.jpg
LA Herald, 11/13/1902


But the window-cleaners soon moved; 1903:

https://i.postimg.cc/59rNvPBN/527-SS...Her7-19-03.jpg
LA Herald, 7/19/1903

1908:

https://i.postimg.cc/RFRJ4wyJ/527-SS...Her1-11-08.jpg
Los Angeles Herald, 1/11/1908

1911:

https://i.postimg.cc/1ttsV64q/527-SS...Her8-23-11.jpg
8/23/1911

1913, our protagonist appears:

https://i.postimg.cc/TYSLdd70/527-SS...Her2-22-13.jpg
LA Herald, 12/22/1913

1914 (must be upstairs):

https://i.postimg.cc/9fXr1DrW/527-SS...LAT5-21-14.jpg
Los Angeles Times, 5/21/1914

ca. 1916:

https://i.postimg.cc/bNvkYFzy/527-SS...6-Recto001.jpg
odinthor collection

https://i.postimg.cc/3w2DfsZB/527-SS...6-Verso001.jpg
odinthor collection

Detail from the card:

https://i.postimg.cc/xj5L2SVp/527-SS...916-Detail.jpg
odinthor collection

1917, evidently the upstairs again:

https://i.postimg.cc/7Lr5zByT/527-SSpring-Her5-5-17.jpg
LA Herald, 5/5/1917

1919:

https://i.postimg.cc/0QcjLPKp/527-SS...Her5-21-19.jpg
LA Herald, 5/21/1919

1920, we see that the Mission Cafe was still in operation:

https://i.postimg.cc/t4j1ZSbn/527-SSpring-LAT4-2-20.jpg
Los Angeles Times, April 2, 1920

1921, probably upstairs again:

https://i.postimg.cc/NMSFgbbM/527-SS...AT11-15-21.jpg
Los Angeles Times, 11/15/1921

Today:

https://i.postimg.cc/5NHWVbFf/527-SSpring.jpg
gsv

ethereal_reality Dec 29, 2019 7:27 PM

:previous:

Excellent post, odinthor. The interior of the cafe is wonderful.


I don't believe we have seen this building on NLA.

I would have remembered the replication of 'mission bells' at the top!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/KB6EbG.jpg
detail / odinthor collection

Have we seen it and I just forgot about it? :shrug:


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BillinGlendaleCA Dec 29, 2019 7:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 8786448)
CBD, not much has changed in this picture except, i think the white house is now a Taco Bell (it might still be there; where the Studebaker Lark is parked, might be the drive through area that i go through often, i'm just not too sure). The Richfield station is most likely the same building, its a "Hand" car wash now. The Tommy's stand is of course still open. From where the picture is taken is a"L" shaped new building where you can place your order, if the older stand is too crowded.

The white house is still there, the Taco Bell is where the cars are parked to the right of the the white house in the original pic. In addition to the white house every other house looking down Rampart is still there, the others having been replaced by apartment buildings.

CityBoyDoug Dec 29, 2019 8:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 8786448)
CBD, not much has changed in this picture except, i think the white house is now a Taco Bell (it might still be there; where the Studebaker Lark is parked, might be the drive through area that i go through often, i'm just not too sure). The Richfield station is most likely the same building, its a "Hand" car wash now. The Tommy's stand is of course still open. From where the picture is taken is a"L" shaped new building where you can place your order, if the older stand is too crowded.

There's been some changes over the years at this intersection of Rampart and Beverly.
The TACO BELL is catty-corner across Beverly from Tommy's.
This location is where the old Lark is parked. The white house is gone.

North, on Beverly, is a defunct bar with a Tommy's sign on it...Tommy's overflow parking is in back of this closed bar.

There appears to be two Tommy's on the old lot....the new L shaped building is a new kitchen, restrooms. office, storage and a service window. Open 24 hours.

This can be confusing because if you stand in the intersection there appears to be 3 Tommy's. Two at the original location and the sign on the closed bar.

BillinGlendaleCA Dec 29, 2019 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8786576)
There's been some changes over the years at this intersection of Rampart and Beverly.
The TACO BELL is catty-corner across Beverly from Tommy's.
This location is where the old Lark is parked. The white house is gone.

North, on Beverly, is a defunct bar with a Tommy's sign on it...Tommy's overflow parking is in back of this closed bar.

There appears to be two Tommy's on the old lot....the new L shaped building is a new kitchen, restrooms. office, storage and a service window. Open 24 hours.

This can be confusing because if you stand in the intersection there appears to be 3 Tommy's. Two at the original location and the sign on the closed bar.

I'd say this is the white house(it's still there):
https://i.postimg.cc/4y304Qbv/Annota...-29-153222.jpgvia GSV

The white house is still there, the one south of it has been replaced by and apartment building, the next house further south is still there.

odinthor Dec 29, 2019 11:46 PM

More on 527 S. Spring, in its guise as the Rose Theatre:

https://losangelestheatres.blogspot....e-theatre.html

Plus, I've got another item on the Rose Theatre:

https://i.postimg.cc/bY30cS72/Rose-T...11-24-1913.jpg
LA Herald, 11/24/1913

A month later, the site was the Mission Cafe.

Scott Charles Dec 29, 2019 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8786372)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/NRxCjX.jpg

This is Franklin between Carmen and Gower. The Richfield station was at 6100 Franklin. The large brick apartment in the middle-right is still there at 1975 N Beachwood Drive.

Judging by the railing in the foreground, it looks like that photo was taken from the freeway. The Richfield station has been rechristened as an ARCO station.

https://i.imgur.com/y71e8Y9.jpg

Google Maps link

CityBoyDoug Dec 30, 2019 1:18 AM

Houses change shape.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8786672)
I'd say this is the white house(it's still there):
https://i.postimg.cc/4y304Qbv/Annota...-29-153222.jpgvia GSV

The white house is still there, the one south of it has been replaced by and apartment building, the next house further south is still there.

The house in the photo above is at 107 S. Rampart. Its somewhat different than the white house by the Lark car in the photo I posted. The chimney is in a different location on the roof and the roof has two notches on the sides. Did someone change the shape of the roof and the location of the chimney?

In the photo I posted, the bus is on Beverly and the crossing street is Rampart. The ridge of Tommy's roof runs parallel to Rampart. This is unless someone moved the little building. So many mysteries.

BillinGlendaleCA Dec 30, 2019 1:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8786716)
The house in the photo above is at 107 S. Rampart. Its somewhat different than the white house by the Lark car in the photo I posted. The chimney is in a different location on the roof and the roof has two notches on the sides. Did someone change the shape of the roof and the location of the chimney?

In the photo I posted, the bus is on Beverly and the crossing street is Rampart. The ridge of Tommy's roof runs parallel to Rampart. This is unless someone moved the little building. So many mysteries.

Let's take a look down the street:

https://i.postimg.cc/RZZvbhs2/Tommys-houses.jpg

The other houses match up, with the houses in between replaced by apartments. The white house doesn't match with any of the other houses in your photo except the first house by the lot on the corner.

Bristolian Dec 30, 2019 5:27 AM

:previous:
I would agree. This aerial shows the intersection as it is currently is configured. I believe the 107 S. Rampart house is still there. It is marked as "The California Boutique" here. There do appear to be slight changes to the chimney and roof but everything else matches. I believe the Taco Bell was built on the area where the Studebaker was parked. That may have been a vacant lot that was only used for parking. Unfortunately that corner lot is not completely visible in the old photo.
https://i.imgur.com/YCEYZpq.png?1Google

Here's a 1960 UCSB aerial that shows the intersection in the same orientation. My computer at home will not allow me to get decent resolution at a larger size. There appears to be enough room on that corner for the Taco Bell and No. 107.
https://i.imgur.com/W95repG.png?1UCSB FrameFinder Flight C_23870, Frame 1604

CityBoyDoug Dec 30, 2019 6:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8786736)
Let's take a look down the street:

https://i.postimg.cc/RZZvbhs2/Tommys-houses.jpg

The other houses match up, with the houses in between replaced by apartments. The white house doesn't match with any of the other houses in your photo except the first house by the lot on the corner.

The house near the Lark car and the house at 107 S. Rampart are two different houses. The other two houses with the arrows pointing at my photo are also different houses. None of the three match any house in my photo. The roofs are different, the windows don't match and the porches are out of sync.

The Spanish style house at 125 S. Rampart appears to be at the end corner of the block and there is no curb cut for a driveway. But when I look at 125, there's another house at the corner.

CaliNative Dec 30, 2019 11:11 AM

"Double Indemnity" trivia question
 
In the scene above the Hollywood Bowl, a symphony can be heard playing in the distance. I believe it is a Brahm's, but which one? My guess would be the 4th, but not sure. Any music experts out there? :koko:

BillinGlendaleCA Dec 30, 2019 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 8786817)
:previous:
I would agree. This aerial shows the intersection as it is currently is configured. I believe the 107 S. Rampart house is still there. It is marked as "The California Boutique" here. There do appear to be slight changes to the chimney and roof but everything else matches. I believe the Taco Bell was built on the area where the Studebaker was parked. That may have been a vacant lot that was only used for parking. Unfortunately that corner lot is not completely visible in the old photo.
https://i.imgur.com/YCEYZpq.png?1Google

Here's a 1960 UCSB aerial that shows the intersection in the same orientation. My computer at home will not allow me to get decent resolution at a larger size. There appears to be enough room on that corner for the Taco Bell and No. 107.
https://i.imgur.com/W95repG.png?1UCSB FrameFinder Flight C_23870, Frame 1604

Here's a wider view of the 1960 aerial:
https://i.postimg.cc/hPL3gDYs/Annota...-30-035126.jpgvia Framefinder @ UCSB

Here's the same view from Google Maps:
https://i.postimg.cc/fR52tHD0/Annota...-30-035333.jpgvia Google Maps

The houses on the block are intact except for 111 and 121 Rampart and 110 Benton Way which have been replaced by apartment buildings.


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