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Flyingwedge Apr 4, 2019 6:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8529055)
Here are a couple mystery locations from the UMC Digital Archive. (found while researching the EPWORTH LEAGUE)


#2
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/sonXZF.jpg

Would this be the old Hollenbeck Home? (if so...I don't recall the gazebo)


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This must be the same Pacific Old Peoples' Home, at 1055 N. Kingsley Drive:

https://oi1165.photobucket.com/album...psgimobcc3.jpg

Page 1702 of 1920 LACD @ fold3.com (see also LAPL)



The Kingsley Manor Retirement Community is now at that address; the building has "Pacific Home" over the entrance.

In this Google Aerial, the pink building at center, adjacent to the upper right corner of the large green lawn, appears similar to
what's behind the gazebo in your photo, e_r.

AlvaroLegido Apr 4, 2019 5:32 PM

Mateo Street
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8529017)
HERE is a short list of locations. (very short list...of two)
I thought we had covered them on NLA but I wasn't able to find the previous posts. (still looking)

I remember posting on "Gun Crazy" : p. 842 #16 835 my wrong theory on Mateo Street, #16 836 e-r's answer, #16 839 correction by Hoss.

ethereal_reality Apr 4, 2019 7:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 8529421)
This must be the same Pacific Old Peoples' Home, at 1055 N. Kingsley Drive:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/r3Cp4u.jpg
LAPL)

The Kingsley Manor Retirement Community is now at that address.

The building has "Pacific Home" over the entrance.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/rw3DKO.jpg




The gazebo might still be there as well, FW.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/Jsx2Hi.jpg
HERE

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Mstimc Apr 4, 2019 8:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8529386)
:previous:
Thanks for your help odinthor and Noir Noir. I really appreciate it.

I've been searching for another photograph of the church but haven't had much luck.





San Pedro had crossed my mind as well, odinthor.

Remember this place...
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/eo8JW0.jpg
skyscraperpage

Still there. GSV

There's also an active Norwegian Seamans' Church on some prime property on Russian Hill in San Francisco...

https://www.sjomannskirken.no/san-francisco/

ethereal_reality Apr 4, 2019 10:27 PM

This ad is from a 1922 issue of Southwesrt Builder & Contractor.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/0FiEOh.jpg
Page 38 at hathitrust

I am confused by "Stage of New Junior Orpheum, Los Angeles :shrug:

I am only aware of the Orpheum Theater on South Broadway, built in 1926.

Was there a smaller Orpheum as well?


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Noir_Noir Apr 4, 2019 10:38 PM

Norwegian-Danish Home for Girls
 
Just a follow up on the Home for Girls. Here's an aerial with the three buildings in the picture at W. 10th Street and S. Bixel Street in 1931.


https://i.imgur.com/LAPmcBu.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu Flight C-1930 - Frame 62

ethereal_reality Apr 5, 2019 12:11 AM

Thanks Noir Noir! Good job on the photo insert and connecting it to the aerial.

ethereal_reality Apr 5, 2019 12:37 AM

Here are two snapshots taken at Venice Beach.....and one taken at an undisclosed 'Los Angeles' location.

"Me, Della and Beau(?)"................Venice Calif. Bathhouse.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/E2F7dD.jpg
old file/found on ebay





"Della and Me." .............Venice - Calif - June - 1920

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/D3CioU.jpg

Imagine how old the building behind them is... for it to look this decrepit back in 1920!







Here's the snapshot with the undisclosed location...... other than Los Angeles 1920

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/mV2u8c.jpg

The grass makes me think this is a different location than Venice Beach.

The building looks just as decrepit as the one in the previous pic.

And that isn't Della.

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Flyingwedge Apr 5, 2019 5:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8530229)
This ad is from a 1922 issue of Southwesrt Builder & Contractor.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/0FiEOh.jpg
Page 38 at hathitrust

I am confused by "Stage of New Junior Orpheum, Los Angeles :shrug:

I am only aware of the Orpheum Theater on South Broadway, built in 1926.

Was there a smaller Orpheum as well?


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The Junior Orpheum Building is in the 1923 city directory at 815 S. Hill Street. The name "Junior Orpheum" was soon discarded
in favor of "Hillstreet" (one word).

Whatever the building's name, HossC did a nice post on the building and its theater, which later became the RKO Hillstreet.

ethereal_reality Apr 5, 2019 3:51 PM

Thanks for the clarification, Flyingwedge. I was stumped.




mystery location 403 S. Hill St. Los Angeles Calif.

Dog waiting in car.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/c7dMqk.jpg
EBAY





A mystery location until I looked more closely at this sign.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/EIWXwt.jpg
DETAIL


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Martin Pal Apr 5, 2019 5:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8530380)

"Me, Della and Beau(?)"................Venice Calif. Bathhouse.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/E2F7dD.jpg
old file/found on ebay

___________________________________________________________________


The guy on the right: Because of the ink dots in forming that last letter, as in the top where it says "Venice", I believe that's "Ben".

Note to anyone: never write "ME" when assigning names to people on photographs. I can definitely say that person in the above photograph is not me!

Noir_Noir Apr 5, 2019 5:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8530946)

mystery location 403 S. Hill St. Los Angeles Calif.

Dog waiting in car.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/c7dMqk.jpg
EBAY



The picture location is E. 7th Street. The buildings were owned by Wright, Callender-Andrews of 403 S. Hill St.

https://i.imgur.com/8TAHK61.jpg
http://ladbsdoc.lacity.org


W. F. Mallmann's grocery was at 1102 E. 7th St.

https://i.imgur.com/UwPvGKt.jpg
rescarta.lapl.org

Godzilla Apr 5, 2019 6:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7427054)


Once upon a time . . . traveling La Brea southbound would have been a long drop. :uhh:


La Brea looking southward from 20th Street (near Washington).
Before street construction. (Per source both images circa 1920-29).
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...e.png~original http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15799coll65/id/25530




After street construction.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...&DMX=0&DMY=0&Dhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...X=512&DMY=0&DM
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...X=0&DMY=512&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...512&DMY=512&DM http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15799coll65/id/25531



contemporary
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...d.png~original GooGooSV


http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...k.png~originalGooGooSV




On La Brea Avenue, slightly north of Olympic Blvd. is what has been described as a Cathedral-Chapel of Saint Vibiana. (923 S La Brea Av.) This edifice has an interesting history that includes an eight foot height reduction for La Brea and that church structure. I do not believe we have seen any images of this construction, or for that matter, what appears to have been street widening, that predated the street regrading (around 1935). The church's proximity to the street suggests it predated any street widening, but this would probably been of minimal concern given the fact that the church was considered "temporary" until post WW2. Have we seen any images of this church when originally constructed next to a presumably narrower La Brea? Searching historic aerials uncovered a 1930 image of La Brea and the church, but it is difficult to make out any obvious topographical changes, presumably because the church footprint remained static. The same 1930 image depicts a miniature golf course on the south side of 8th Street, across from Chotiner's theater, where a mini mall now stands. While no listing appears for that business in the '30 or '32 CDs, courses are listed for 128 North La Brea and 1350 S La Brea, so there were other
alternatives.




Chotiners>> http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=31519


http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps70ba7e34.jpg

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...psmj8auc2u.jpg









http://www.cathedralchapel.org/yahoo...165619_std.jpg


Quote:

The story has an unusual beginning, a very eventful center, and a triumphant hopeful future. The Cathedral of St. Vibiana, located at 2nd and Main, was built in 1871. As the city grew westward in the early years of this century, plans were made to build a new Cathedral in the Wilshire district. It was decided that a Pre-Cathedral (a church used temporarily as a cathedral) would be built on La Brea Avenue. That's why we were named as we were, and located slightly away from the busy Wilshire corridor.

Plans were drawn up by architect Ross Montgomery and the contract was awarded to B.O. Kronnick Co. Ground was broken in September 1927 for the building which was to be distinctive in its Spanich Mission architecture. It was built on a gently sloping hill and the landscaping was lush and green.

The Right Reverend Msgr. John Cawley was appointed administrator and the first Masses were said on Christmas Day, 1927. The formal dedication and blessing took place on January 20,1928 with Bishop Cantwell as celebrant. The church was filled to its capacity of 600.

In 1935 the City made plans to extend La Brea to make it a through street, and notified the Chancery that the level of the street was to lowered about eight feet. It was decided to meet the specifications for street level, and the church was placed on jacks and the ground excavated under it. The building was then gently lowered to its present level. At the same time it was decided to expand as the church had outgrown its 600 person capacity. The north side of the church was removed and pillars were put in place to support the roof. This accommodated an additional 150 people and included the Altar of Repose. As the church was now eight feet lower than the rectory, a retaining wall was built to withhold the earth strain. This is why we have the staircase leading up to the Parish Hall.

Although built as a temporary chapel, intended to be adjacent to the future Cathedral, history had other plans. Delays in construction caused by the Great Depression, followed by World War II served to make Cathedral Chapel Church a permanent structure. Again changes were planned. This time, a modernication of the interior was initiated, starting with a new wood carved design over the main altar, sent from Italy, depicting symbols of the Passion. Starting at the top and moving clockwise one sees: the sponge dipped in hyssop and the ladder; the robe and dice used by the Roman soldiers; the flagella used for the flogging; a rooster; the spear which pearced Jesus' side; containers for anointing; the nails; and the Crown of Thorns. The pews were removed and replaced with light colored oak benches and kneelers. The lighting system was renovated and the church was painted both inside and out. Since the church was established, members of the parish have continued to enrich and beautify it with many artistic symbols which are not always noticed by visitors. The painting of Our Lady of the Assumption, which is now housed in the Rectory, is a painting my Murillo. The pipe organ was completely renovated through the generosity of one of the parishioners and was once considered one of the finest in the Archdiocese. http://www.cathedralchapel.org/about_our_parish/history
Other questions jump to mind. Most sources indicate 10th Street was renamed to honor or "promote" the 10th Olympiad. The '31 CD indicates that the renaming was in full swing well in advance of the '32 event, so that the street was renamed earlier than '31 and not as some sources blithely state 1932. One source indicates that LA's bid to host the '32 games was accepted in the Summer of '28 https://www.webcitation.org/5xFvf0uf.../eng/past.html. Although newspapers likely report this, exactly when did the city formally rename 10th Street and was there any significant opposition to this?


A little further south of the St. Vibiana's is an interesting group of buildings with an approximate 1928 construction date. Perhaps not unlike Vibiana, these structures may have been built without contemplating street widening or significant regrading.


1101- S. La Brea.


https://images1.loopnet.com/i2/JqIbI.../112/image.jpghttps://images1.loopnet.com/i2/JqIbI.../112/image.jpg
https://images1.loopnet.com/i2/V2BnD.../112/image.jpg

https://images4.loopnet.com/i2/b-CYm.../112/image.jpghttps://images4.loopnet.com/i2/b-CYm.../112/image.jpg




The other (East) side of La Brea at Edgewood?

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=24068


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=24076






https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9...0/calers-1.jpg






Nearby La Brea and San Vicente, circa 1936, before any substantial street modifications. La Brea, like so many other major streets received piecemeal modifications.


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=22728


BTW, NCD attribution is nice. ;)

ethereal_reality Apr 5, 2019 8:21 PM

mystery location.

Handsome man works on his car. Los Angeles, Calif.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/oTwIXe.jpg
ebay


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ethereal_reality Apr 5, 2019 8:42 PM

mystery location #2 [for April 5, 2019]



Original 5 x 7 Negative - Economy Fuel Trucks, Los Angeles 1936.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/qOR3rP.jpg
EBAY


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/zQN3Ha.jpg

EBAY





Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8531156)
The picture location is E. 7th Street. The buildings were owned by Wright, Callender-Andrews of 403 S. Hill St.

Thanks, Noir Noir, for the correct location of the "Dog waits in car" photograph.

HossC Apr 5, 2019 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8531365)
mystery location.

Handsome man works on his car. Los Angeles, Calif.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/oTwIXe.jpg
ebay

I think that's R L Grosh & Sons Scenic Studios in the background, so, given the elevation, we must be on Myra Avenue near Lexington. I believe that the building in the center below is the same one.

https://oi809.photobucket.com/albums...LARLGrosh1.jpg
GSV

Grosh is still in business, as e_r showed us a few years ago. This is the other side of the view above.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6904128)


FredH Apr 6, 2019 2:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8530946)
Thanks for the clarification, Flyingwedge. I was stumped.




mystery location 403 S. Hill St. Los Angeles Calif.

Dog waiting in car.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/c7dMqk.jpg
EBAY





A mystery location until I looked more closely at this sign.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/EIWXwt.jpg
DETAIL


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It appears that the buildings across the street (where the W.F. Mallman Grocery was located) were sold to someone who built this hotel and shops in 1925:

https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums...kley/hotel.png
Google Maps

The hotel name seems to have been removed.

https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums...ley/hotel1.png

Currently, this seems like an odd location for a hotel, but they probably did a good business from the train passengers at the new Central Station
at Central and 5th Street, which had opened the year before.

CityBoyDoug Apr 6, 2019 8:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 8529421)
This must be the same Pacific Old Peoples' Home, at 1055 N. Kingsley Drive:

https://oi1165.photobucket.com/album...psgimobcc3.jpg

Page 1702 of 1920 LACD @ fold3.com (see also LAPL)



The Kingsley Manor Retirement Community is now at that address; the building has "Pacific Home" over the entrance.

In this Google Aerial, the pink building at center, adjacent to the upper right corner of the large green lawn, appears similar to
what's behind the gazebo in your photo, e_r.

I miss your PMs.....when do I get another one of your fantastic memos???

Noir_Noir Apr 6, 2019 2:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 8531613)
It appears that the buildings across the street (where the W.F. Mallman Grocery was located) were sold to someone who built this hotel and shops in 1925:

https://oi445.photobucket.com/albums...kley/hotel.png
Google Maps

The hotel name seems to have been removed.


It's first listings that I can find with hotel in the title are as the Hotel Hampton.

https://i.imgur.com/qF9gzqO.jpg
rescarta.lapl.org


In 1939 it joins the list of Ohio Hotels in the city on E streets.

https://i.imgur.com/XTKX3Vn.jpg
rescarta.lapl.org


It's still there in the 1987 CD as the Ohio. So the sign was likely ...

https://i.imgur.com/wd2VXHS.jpg

:)

Flyingwedge Apr 6, 2019 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8531769)
I miss your PMs.....when do I get another one of your fantastic memos???

You know perfectly well, CBD, I've only ever sent you one PM, and that was last September. At that time, you had made a series of
racial/political remarks (now deleted) that many people -- myself included -- objected to. When our thread moderator asked you
to stop making such comments, you basically told him to screw off and that you'd write whatever you wanted to. That's when I sent
you a PM suggesting you reconsider your approach to NLA. What finally prompted you to respond after more than six months?

Could you also further explain why you think the Moon landings were faked, Mr. Urantia?


https://oi1165.photobucket.com/album...psp8q5wgqo.jpg



The images below (main image, followed by three enlargements from it) are from A.C. Weisbecker's channel at YouTube.

https://oi1165.photobucket.com/album...psosaycb0k.jpg

https://oi1165.photobucket.com/album...psm9zyshnu.jpg

https://oi1165.photobucket.com/album...psdxezmyck.jpg

https://oi1165.photobucket.com/album...psm9a6mg0k.jpg


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