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Hollywood Graham Oct 16, 2017 4:57 AM

Long shot but could it be Hathaway mansion on Apex?

BillinGlendaleCA Oct 16, 2017 6:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7953247)
Please be very cautious this week....new and possibly dangerous Pikachu Go nests have been discovered in LA. If you're worried contact the LA Theosophical Society for prayers and astral protection. You can never be too careful. Ref: below

Email: tstec@theosociety.org
Tel: 626 797 7817
P O Box C, Pasadena, CA 91109-7107 USA

Good luck....and don't tell me I didn't warn you.


https://www.google.com/maps/d/thumbn...vTzxA&hl=en_UShttps://heavyeditorial.files.wordpre...2&h=161&crop=1https://www.google.com/maps/d/thumbn...vTzxA&hl=en_US

Ref: The Theosophical Society, International Headquarters, Pasadena, California. The Society was founded in 1875 in an effort to promote the expressed awareness of the Oneness of Life.

Founder Madame Helena Blavatsky....if you can't trust her...who can you trust. These are dangerous times.
http://blavatskyarchives.com/hpbzoomb4.jpg

First the Lizard People under Fort Moore Hill and now this.

CityBoyDoug Oct 16, 2017 7:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 7953595)
First the Lizard People under Fort Moore Hill and now this.

I know what you mean BillinGlendale...you have to be alert to everything. Help me keep an eye-out.

GaylordWilshire Oct 16, 2017 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7953499)
Just for fun, here are a couple of LAX slides from the 1960s.



"Orig Slide Man Woman 1962 Lincoln THEME Building Los Angeles LAX Airport"

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/lb...c=w700-h459-no
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-1962-Sl....c100005.m1851


"1965 KODACHROME 35MM SLIDE LOS ANGELES INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT"

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/RS...o=w700-h466-no


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Great images (though, in the dept. of nitpicking, it's a '61 Lincoln...)-- that old airport sign reminds me of a scene-setting shot seen from time to time in Perry Mason episodes...in which it would be referred to as "International Airport"--no article "the" ("Della is picking us up at International Airport")--


Here, coincidentally, are Perry & Della in his '61/2/or 3 Lincoln convertible...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Qj...s=w835-h595-no

oldstuff Oct 16, 2017 3:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7952310)
:previous:

Photograph caption dated December 1, 1962 reads "A police officer and a young man were wounded early today in a roaring North Hollywood gun battle and chase that ended a 2 1/2-hour crime spree. Shot during the battle were police officer R. F. Schneider, 42, and Daniel Medina, 22, one of the suspects. Neither was seriously injured. Officers said the kidnaping (sic) victim, slender, 17-year-old Donald Tingley Jr., Sunland, escaped injury while locked in the trunk of his car in the midst of the gun battle around the vehicle."

-Calisphere


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/UN...E=w477-h462-no
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/YM...Y=w463-h469-no
newspapers.com


The serene scene of the Tingley boy's kidnapping:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/il...=w1018-h344-no
gsv

The photo with the boy in the trunk was taken in front of Barris Kustom on Riverside, just east of Lankershim.

oldstuff Oct 16, 2017 3:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7953345)
The 1923 set was huge and much of it is still there....buried under the sand dunes.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bKqlUMuIpY...s-set-1923.jpg
DeMille film

There is a museum in town nearby which has some of the pieces that have been dug up out of the sand and pictures and things from the filming of the production. Very interesting.

tovangar2 Oct 16, 2017 5:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 7953824)
The photo with the boy in the trunk was taken in front of Barris Kustom on Riverside, just east of Lankershim.

Yep, that's next door to the gas station the young perps robbed and around the corner from the Gattis residence where they'd fled (presumably)on foot and were taken into custody.

It's great that the Times report was so chock-a-block with addresses. I looked 'em all up.

jg6544 Oct 16, 2017 6:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7953499)
Just for fun, here are a couple of LAX slides from the 1960s.



"Orig Slide Man Woman 1962 Lincoln THEME Building Los Angeles LAX Airport"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/rVVkpy.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-1962-Sl....c100005.m1851





"1965 KODACHROME 35MM SLIDE LOS ANGELES INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/SPznWS.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-KODACHR...EAAOSw6b9Z4gpr

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I flew through LAX in 1971, when it was still pretty much like this. It was much different from the madhouse it is today.

Earl Boebert Oct 16, 2017 7:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jg6544 (Post 7954105)
I flew through LAX in 1971, when it was still pretty much like this. It was much different from the madhouse it is today.

Boy, I'll say. My first commercial flight connected through there in 1961, and in 1969-1970 I commuted just about every Monday and Friday from Minneapolis to West Covina and back through LAX. I often wondered what happened to the wall of celebrity photographs that were in the Western Airlines VIP lounge.

And then there was the Carolina Pines ...

Cheers,

Earl

"There is no life East of Sepulvada."

CityBoyDoug Oct 16, 2017 7:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7953499)
Just for fun, here are a couple of LAX slides from the 1960s.



"Orig Slide Man Woman 1962 Lincoln THEME Building Los Angeles LAX Airport"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/rVVkpy.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-1962-Sl....c100005.m1851





"1965 KODACHROME 35MM SLIDE LOS ANGELES INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT"

[URL=https://imageshack.com/i/pmSPznWSj]

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The Encounter Restaurant closed for business in December 2013 with no future plans to reopen, although the building's observation level is still open on weekends. Previously, the restaurant was closed in March 2007 for repairs after a half-ton piece of the stucco skin on the upper arches crashed onto the roof of the restaurant. Its seen in ER's photo above.

I had dinner there in about 1962. It was upscale at that time but later became just a coffee shop....now its closed.

This what I had then...salmon and red caviar.

http://il3.picdn.net/shutterstock/vi...49/thumb/1.jpg
http://il3.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/10554149/thumb/1.jpg

Today in 2017 a visit to LAX is like crossing the River Styx into the Underworld which is commonly referred to as Hades.

tovangar2 Oct 16, 2017 9:04 PM

New member tdinla (hey td) is currently the owner of the gorgeous Craftsman at 202 N Westlake Ave (1910), a home BifRayRock and I got interested in a while back:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Wu...Y=w439-h575-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/SZ...U=w870-h585-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/64...s=w624-h583-no
zillow/mls


The priors:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=42058

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=42059

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=42066

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=42067

Zillow states that the home was originally built in Hollywood, but td finds that it started out on Bunker Hill somewhere between Court and 1st (not an area known for Craftsman homes). Can anyone here shed more light on the history of td's house or Thomas Thurman, who moved this and other homes?

Not sure if this is even the right Thurman:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/i-...o=w782-h414-no
Angelus Rosedale Cemetery find a grave

GaylordWilshire Oct 16, 2017 9:35 PM

:previous:


202 N Westlake is currently between Court and West 1st...the latter now being Beverly Blvd. Don't know where the Bunker Hill idea comes from. Before the street and address changes after the annexations occuring around 1910, Westlake in this area was Quebec Street. There are various references to Thurmans on Quebec going back to 1904--including a Louis, who built 121 that year....

Thomas and Minnie Thurman, an African-American couple, were living across the street at 203 during the '20s, when, in May 1925, they built a new foundation for 202...can't tell from building permits where the house was coming from.



From the Times, June 8, 1903:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TR...Qc=w526-h76-no

ethereal_reality Oct 17, 2017 4:04 AM

I loved this photograph so much I just wanted to see it again. :)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge
The three-story building sits on the NE corner of what is now Beverly and Belmont:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/4CHtd2.jpg
CA State Library

This time I saw something I hadn't noticed before.



Below: Is this a skylight? If it is, it seems like an odd place for one.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/1P2ECS.jpg
detail

I can't imagine what else it might be.




On Fw's Sanborn map there is a small circle at that spot (there's one on the other side as well)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge
The three-story building on the 1894 Sanborn, with that distinctive "slice" taken out
of the top two stories. (shown below)

by my tiny red arrows
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/NpUDht.jpg
lapl

Do the small circles denote a skylight? (a more appropriate symbol would be a small rectangle....the same shape as a skylight).

If it is a skylight, why is it at the bottom of what Flyingwedge called the "slice".
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p.s. And what is a F.A. Box? (lower left corner on the Sanborn)

ethereal_reality Oct 17, 2017 4:38 AM

Lankershim Blvd., June 1961.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/4ERERR.jpg
Richard Wojcik San Fernando Historical Society

I wonder why the owner of the white convertible didn't just put the top back up?

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CityBoyDoug Oct 17, 2017 4:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7954839)
I loved this photograph so much I just wanted to see it again. :)

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p.s. And what is a F.A. Box? (lower left corner on the Sanborn)

F.A. Box......fire alarm box.

Flyingwedge Oct 17, 2017 7:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7954839)

Below: Is this a skylight? If it is, it seems like an odd place for one.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/1P2ECS.jpg
detail

I can't imagine what else it might be.



On Fw's Sanborn map there is a small circle at that spot (there's one on the other side as well)

by my tiny red arrows
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/NpUDht.jpg
lapl

Do the small circles denote a skylight? (a more appropriate symbol would be a small rectangle....the same shape as a skylight).

If it is a skylight, why is it at the bottom of what Flyingwedge called the "slice".

According to the Sanborn key little circles like that are iron chimneys, but I'd have to agree that the photo
shows a skylight. I didn't see any square or rectangular skylights anywhere on the Sanborn page that shows
the building in the photo.

As to why the skylight is at the bottom of what I could have called the "wedge," maybe the skylight helped
illuminate the back of the ground-floor store better than a window on the side of the wall would have?

HossC Oct 17, 2017 12:09 PM

:previous:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7954950)

As to why the skylight is at the bottom of what I could have called the "wedge," maybe the skylight helped illuminate the back of the ground-floor store better than a window on the side of the wall would have?

A skylight like this would certainly work better if someone decided to build right next door.

tdinla Oct 17, 2017 8:21 PM

202 n westlake ave, more info
 
Thanks Tovangar2, BifRayRock, and Gaylord Wilshire. Appreciate all the info on 202 N Westlake Ave!

The permit I found to move the house in 1925 says it was moved from "between Court St and W 1st Street" to 202 N Westlake Ave.
If I google Court and West 1st it takes me to a spot downtown next to the current DWP. (Part of old Bunker Hill)
I found old maps of downtown that have court street running uninterrupted to city hall. (Hope I've added images properly)
But as you say, not certain that's where it was moved from.

I didn't think there were too many craftsman places on Bunker Hill, and haven't found any photos that show this house there, but if anyone knows of any historical photos of this house, I would be incredibly grateful.

It really is a cool house, with a great vibe and view. We love it and can't wait to restore it. It also was clearly cut in half in order to be moved. There is a line running right through the wood floor and all moulding. Wish there were a pic of it while in process of being moved!

I think the real estate listing may have conflated the history of the pink house that Thomas Thurman also moved in 1925 from Normandie and that's why they thought it was originally in Hollywood? I'm not sure. But I can definitely picture it as a Jazz/party house at some point in it's history.

And btw, the gravestone that you showed is definitely the same Thomas Thurman. I found records through calisphere.org and rescarta. They also mention quebec street.

Any other insights into the history of the house (or photos esp) are greatly appreciated!

Hope I'm posting these images correctly:

https://s1.postimg.org/3kleyxh4zf/19...ake_Page_1.jpg

https://s1.postimg.org/1ssg411f9n/19...ake_Page_2.jpg

https://s1.postimg.org/10fkmai18b/old_court_st.png

https://s1.postimg.org/1wc21qs53v/old_downtown.png

https://s1.postimg.org/3771w1n8nv/18...man_quebec.png

https://s1.postimg.org/3htvp72oiz/19..._directory.png

https://s1.postimg.org/6gix6vfqjv/th...n_westlake.png

https://s1.postimg.org/2ufnpurw7f/ph...-1500x1000.jpg

http://postimg.org/image/5ul5bewvmz/
http://postimg.org/image/4df09nv3rv/
http://postimg.org/image/3z8kisn0mj/
http://postimg.org/image/4v51y8x4i3/
https://postimg.org/image/2ufnpurw7f/
http://postimg.org/image/3771w1n8nv/
http://postimg.org/image/3htvp72oiz/
http://postimg.org/image/6gix6vfqjv/

ethereal_reality Oct 17, 2017 8:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge
maybe the skylight helped
illuminate the back of the ground-floor store better than a window on the side of the wall would have?

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC
A skylight like this would certainly work better if someone decided to build right next door.

thanks for your input on the skylight FW and Hoss.

I've been trying to find another example of a skylight like the one in the building, but I haven't had any luck yet.
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Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7954868)
F.A. Box......fire alarm box.

I should have been able to figure that one out. :blush: thx CBD


but I don't see it. (unless it's behind the tall pole)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/uDTJz2.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/NpUDht.jpg

maybe the alarm box hadn't been installed yet at the time of the photograph.

And while I have your attention. What do you think the little boy is sitting on in the photo.....a drinking fountain?
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HossC Oct 17, 2017 8:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdinla (Post 7955710)

I found old maps of downtown that have court street running uninterrupted to city hall. (Hope I've added images properly)

Here's the eastern end of Court Street in 1921, which shows its route before the streets were realigned for City Hall. Although the portion above Broadway is labeled "Court St", that was actually where Court Flight was built to go up the steep incline to the houses above the Hill Street tunnel.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
www.historicmapworks.com

BTW You seem to have used the thumbnail links to post your pictures, although the links at the bottom take me to the full-sized images. You'd probably be better off using postimage's "Hotlink for forums" code in future (and don't forget to credit your sources :))


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