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Flyingwedge Aug 22, 2017 3:33 PM

:previous:

Have you contacted the local City Council office? The staff there should be able to find out why the trees are being cut.

Downtownkid Aug 22, 2017 3:44 PM

I don't known anything about trees but maybe you can help me with a mystery of mind. I think this photo taken of my dad is on Ord and Broadway blvd camera facing west.
https://preview.ibb.co/gu1srk/Jose_P..._area_1925.jpg
I think that the hill in the background may be where the Robinson Mansion is at.

https://preview.ibb.co/inD0cQ/Jose_V...adway_1925.jpg
Here is a view of the same street in the opposite direction. the shadow are west east on both photos but taken at different time of day. Notice that there is no hill in this direction. and shadows do line up
https://preview.ibb.co/bTiYxQ/guy_ca..._area_1925.jpg
https://preview.ibb.co/c25fcQ/two_gu..._area_1925.jpg
other photos same views

But there is a pole in front of the market but not in the other photo so I got the street wrong.

GatoVerde Aug 22, 2017 5:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7900089)
:previous:

Have you contacted the local City Council office? The staff there should be able to find out why the trees are being cut.

Yes, I have. I even attended the city hearing on the trees. They are being cut as part of a sidewalk widening project. They claim that widening the sidewalk would involve cutting into the roots which would make the tree unstable.

Nowhere has anyone mentioned the historical nature of the trees.

I've spoken with a couple of lawyers who suggest that an injunction is the only way to stop this.

Downtownkid Aug 22, 2017 6:40 PM

https://preview.ibb.co/kjzwMk/guy_ca...rea_1925_a.jpg
These photos are from 1925. Good luck with your tree effort. I will look for the trees.

GatoVerde Aug 22, 2017 7:17 PM

Additional info on Image and copy of page taken from book:
Beautiful Highlands of Los Angeles, published in 1900. I'm not sure of the publisher. The record shows "Los Angeles," which may indicate it is the City of Los Angeles, but it is not clear. That indicates that the trees must date from the late 1800s, making them at least 120 years old.

The entire publication is found here:
https://archive.org/details/beautifulhighlan00losa

Here is the image once again, taken from the same publication, showing the imported conifer trees in an alternating pattern with palms:

http://www.califaztlan.org/LANoirPics/workman1.jpg

Godzilla Aug 22, 2017 8:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7864762)
10 years ago I was told that Photobucket was one of best hosting sites. Its purpose was to host photos so that you could post them to forums, websites etc.

Update Just now they have sent me a 2nd email: " WE NOTICED THAT YOU HAVE BEEN USING PHOTOBUCKET FOR 3RD PARTY HOSTING
PLEASE UPGRADE TO A PLUS 500 PLAN." [their most expensive Plan...$400 per year.] [ If they Host photos but not for linking...what is the point of their whole operation??? Madness.]


FWIW, all may not be completely lost. To salvage images that appear missing, there may be "embed fixes" at least for Firefox and Chrome browsers.":shrug: Guessing this is a band aid rather than a permanent fix, but every little bit helps.

Quote:

This will fix all embedded Photo Bucket images on forums and other websites.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...d-fix/?src=api

https://github.com/kzahel/photobucket-embed-fix

Downtownkid Aug 22, 2017 8:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatoVerde (Post 7900341)
Additional info on Image and copy of page taken from book:
Beautiful Highlands of Los Angeles, published in 1900. I'm not sure of the publisher. The record shows "Los Angeles," which may indicate it is the City of Los Angeles, but it is not clear. That indicates that the trees must date from the late 1800s, making them at least 120 years old.

The entire publication is found here:
https://archive.org/details/beautifulhighlan00losa

Here is the image once again, taken from the same publication, showing the imported conifer trees in an alternating pattern with palms:

http://www.califaztlan.org/LANoirPics/workman1.jpg

https://preview.ibb.co/dLonu5/358_bo...os_angeles.jpg here is a nice view of that tree lined street with the Google mobile. the house across the street (358 S. Boyle) on the right side of the photo is awesome

Martin Pal Aug 22, 2017 8:50 PM

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Originally Posted by slufty (Post 7899760)
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7454377)
'mystery' location.

I didn't think this view was all that interesting, until I noticed the 'Bowling' sign beneath the Herald Examiner billboard.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/pKhawh.jpg
old file of mine

Anyone have an idea where this was taken?
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La Cienega Lanes at Santa Monica and La Cienega. Here's the view looking east on Santa Monica Blvd. The bus is north of Santa Monica.
It became Flipper's a roller rink in the 70s then Esprit clothing and now a CVS.

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mBmMcWqW-..._7404470_n.jpg
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Now that you identified that mystery photo location it is obvious to me; I should've gotten that one!

We've covered that intersection and vicinity on NLA quite a few times, but the b&w photo you supplied of the cross streets is a new one to me. Where'd you find that one?
It looks like the "Salem Refreshes Naturally" ads were done in the early 1970's, c.1972-1974.

I was trying to read the bus number and route on the bus in the former mystery photo. While trying to find some info to help with that I discovered this
photo that was taken a couple blocks south of there on La Cienega.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7496/2...3d1f4474_b.jpgMetro Library and Archive

Caption: SCRTD bus at Norms Restaurant on La Cienega. Taken circa 1976.

We also have a Ford Mustang and a red VW Beetle in the photo.
Notice the billboard on the right says "Catch Perry Mason."

CityBoyDoug Aug 22, 2017 9:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 7900475)
FWIW, all may not be completely lost. To salvage images that appear missing, there may be "embed fixes" at least for Firefox and Chrome browsers.":shrug: Guessing this is a band aid rather than a permanent fix, but every little bit helps.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...d-fix/?src=api

https://github.com/kzahel/photobucket-embed-fix

This whole debacle is getting scarier by the day. But thanks anyway. I suspect that if PhotoBucket doesn't like this, they will eventually delete accounts that use these ''fixes''. The Internet is a very hostile and vicious arena. :(:(:(

VictorAtomic Aug 22, 2017 9:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7376244)
I noticed there's a survivor in your photograph MR.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/K0Jrxn.jpg
Michael Ryerson Collection


It's a gabled Tudor Revival, now home to Valhalla Motion Pictures.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/CVTGfG.jpg
gsv


I like the two tiny (arched) openings. here's a close-up of one of them.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/vUjwc2.jpg
detail / gsv







This plaque is somewhere on the building, but I don't see it in the gsv view.
It must be around back where the people park and enter.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/TQoFEl.jpg
https://foursquare.com/v/valhalla-mo...8ac2be3/photos

(have I posted about this plaque before? It seems very familiar)




Here's a view from the Burnham bridge.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/LPb0VY.jpg
http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/0...d-sighted.html


That 'My Little Pony' billboard caused fans (so called Bronies) to go ape-shit.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/biukXw.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/NjJrLZ.jpg




There was also some concern about a missing leg. lol

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/XT1etS.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/IDTUcW.jpg


Do yourself a favor & go through the rest of the comments. They're hilarious.
http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/0...d-sighted.html

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I used to intern in this building, Sadly the inside has no original details. Very narrow plain staircase from the bottom floor to the third top floor which was probably previously attic space.

odinthor Aug 22, 2017 9:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GatoVerde (Post 7899883)
Here is some additional info and images I've come across:

I feel fairly certain that the trees in question are the ones in this image:
http://www.califaztlan.org/LANoirPics/workman1.jpg

The excerpt from this book may imply that Workman himself may have been responsible for the planting of these trees:
http://www.califaztlan.org/LANoirPics/workman2.jpg

This is a recent image:
http://www.califaztlan.org/LANoirPics/workman3.jpg

I will try to take photos of the trees they've already cut for tomorrow.

Again, most of the trees still stand but are scheduled to come down soon. I think they are planning on cutting more down this Saturday. I'd like to stop this from happening if at all possible.

Best of luck with this worthy effort!

What kind of trees (not the palm trees) are they? They don't look like any kind familiar to me.

odinthor Aug 22, 2017 10:05 PM

https://s26.postimg.org/al4fbwem1/Boy_Trees.jpg
gsv

I thought a pic including both the form of a whole tree and some more or less close-up branches/leaves would be helpful. At first, I was thinking they looked a bit Silk Oak-ish (Grevillea robusta); but no--if so, they'd be another strain than the usual kind. Looking at them in this pic they still don't look familiar to me!--which would be typical of trees planted way back then, when they delighted in trying out exotic things. It really would be a crime to cut down these beautiful and interesting trees!

ethereal_reality Aug 23, 2017 1:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality
This is the back of the Bozzani building. (I expected a large garage door) -so where'd the car enter the building?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downtownkid (Post 7899685)
How did the cars get in and out of Bozzani?

Well, here's one path.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/Ix4rvK.jpgdetail

The entrance(s) must be along the western wall of the original bldg with the arched trusses.
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ethereal_reality Aug 23, 2017 3:24 AM

re: Oakmont Country Club

once more
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/gcZb9m.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys (Post 7899280)
I recall the classic old structure, as we lived a few streets over on Santa Barbara Ave. in the late 60's.
Andys

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 7899879)
If it was still there in the late 60's, I wonder if the San Fernando earthquake might have been responsible for the new building. I know quite a few businesses on Honolulu in Montrose were hit hard by the quake and either had to be replaced or got the stucco treatment.

Hey you two, I finally tracked down a few more photographs of the old structure.

In 1929

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/fHN7cM.jpg
Oakmont/pdf







And two from 1939.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/wR4wua.jpg
Oakmont/pdf

Busy place! (Oakmont was briefly a public golf course in the 1930s)


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/swhNgo.jpg
Oakmont/pdf
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Alas, a devastating FIRE struck on July 4, 1946 (cause: faulty wiring in the main chandelier)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/h9MMxy.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/Yetd9P.jpg
Oakmont/pdf



The grand reopening of a new clubhouse was held on November 15, 1947. Architect George Lindsay incorporated the unburnt portions into the new design.
(but I don't believe much of the old structure survived)

Andys, this must be the building you remembering seeing in the 1960s.
(I wasn't able to find a photograph from this time period)



The present day clubhouse opened on in May 1995.

such an ugly design
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/uCd7XH.jpg
http://glendaleandbeyond.com/verdugo...t-country-club

sidenote:
The start date for the new clubhouse was January 17, 1994, the same day as the 6.8 Northridge earthquake!
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PDF (with more photographs) here: 90th Anniversary Brochure 2012

ethereal_reality Aug 23, 2017 3:32 AM

oh I almost forgot...

for those who didn't link to the pdf, here's a photograph of that beautiful interior space I posted a day or so ago.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/FOUTJI.jpgpdf

"Oakmont Dining Room and Lounge, 1929.



for comparison

here's the earlier photo again.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/eLIF1h.jpg

"Junior Chamber of Commerce dance at the Oakmont Country Club" [no date] -the clothes make me think 1940s.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7899068)
Those light fixtures may be Aztec-Nordic-Mayan-Hollywood. Sort of a combo package.

:) Combo it is


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sadykadie2 Aug 23, 2017 4:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VictorAtomic (Post 7900552)
I used to intern in this building, Sadly the inside has no original details. Very narrow plain staircase from the bottom floor to the third top floor which was probably previously attic space.

Yeah, the whole Bronie thing. I don't even know where to put it in my brain. 'Course I'm a Trekkie, so there it is

ethereal_reality Aug 23, 2017 5:56 AM

I just saw this slide on ebay


The seller says this is Venice Beach in 1972.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/rEfqOa.png


but I don't recall seeing this Frostie place with the wood siding before.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/Dd2YMA.jpg[/URL]detail

-and what's that little room on top...observation tower? (i don't remember that either) :shrug:
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Otis Criblecoblis Aug 23, 2017 9:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 7899879)
If it was still there in the late 60's, I wonder if the San Fernando earthquake might have been responsible for the new building. I know quite a few businesses on Honolulu in Montrose were hit hard by the quake and either had to be replaced or got the stucco treatment.

You mean the 2-9-71 Sylmar quake, I imagine, and I was supposing the same thing, but so far I haven't been able to find anything about it on the interwebz.

tovangar2 Aug 23, 2017 8:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatoVerde (Post 7899883)
This is a recent image:
http://www.califaztlan.org/LANoirPics/workman3.jpg

I will try to take photos of the trees they've already cut for tomorrow.

Again, most of the trees still stand but are scheduled to come down soon. I think they are planning on cutting more down this Saturday. I'd like to stop this from happening if at all possible.

Some look like Carrotwoods to me. I googled "Carrotwood Trees Boyle Ave". If you do the same, a link to a PDF from the City Clerk will come up detailing this project (at least I think it's the same project).

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9E...Q=w584-h121-no

"The affected street trees are
eight Silk Oak (Grevillea robusta), Eight Flame Trees (Brachychiton acerifolius), six Indian
Laurel Fig (Ficus microcarpa), six Carrotwood (Cupaniopsis anacardioides), five Brisbane
Box (Lophostemon confertus), and other various tree species. "

slufty Aug 23, 2017 8:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7900482)
Now that you identified that mystery photo location it is obvious to me; I should've gotten that one!

We've covered that intersection and vicinity on NLA quite a few times, but the b&w photo you supplied of the cross streets is a new one to me. Where'd you find that one?

Allison Martino's Vintage Los Angeles blog http://alisonmartino.blog/2017/05/18...s-roller-rink/


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