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GaylordWilshire Aug 8, 2017 7:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VictorAtomic (Post 7812076)
Some video and pics I took of a home that once belonged to Mexican General Jose Maytorena in the Mid-Wilshire district which is to be demolished.

"This Single-Family Home is located at 502 South Harvard Boulevard, Los Angeles, CA. 502 S Harvard Blvd is in the Mid-Wilshire neighborhood in Los Angeles, CA and in ZIP Code 90020. 502 S Harvard Blvd has 9 beds, 3 baths, approximately 4,862 square feet, and was built in 1916"


https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0...01&oe=59B743FE

Video Link



https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TA...g=w516-h648-no


After a demo BP was issued last month, seems the house and its garage are now gone....

CityBoyDoug Aug 8, 2017 8:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VictorAtomic (Post 7812076)
Some video and pics I took of a home that once belonged to Mexican General Jose Maytorena in the Mid-Wilshire district which is to be demolished.

"This Single-Family Home is located at 502 South Harvard Boulevard, Los Angeles, CA. 502 S Harvard Blvd is in the Mid-Wilshire neighborhood in Los Angeles, CA and in ZIP Code 90020. 502 S Harvard Blvd has 9 beds, 3 baths, approximately 4,862 square feet, and was built in 1916"

Video Link

House now gone.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4402/...b8b200_b_d.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4402/...b8b200_b_d.jpg

Beaudry Aug 9, 2017 4:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 4694870)
Hey Mark, you still there? Sorry it took me so long to reply to your question but I've been away from this thread for a long time. Well, maybe you'll come back and check it once and a while...

212 South Grand was the Frontenac, an upscale hotel & apartments--the tall, white, long building in the background, on the east side of Grand, in the image that ethereal_reality posted.

It was a magnificent place in the teens. It had been opened in October of '05 and and'd been erected by O. E. Engstrum, who put up only the finest establishments. It was 60x145' on a 110x165' lot. Engstrum left 35' to the south to give plenty of light and sun to the Frontenac, and from its roof garden, four stories above the crest of Bunker Hill, it commanded the finest views over the city. It cost 50k to build, which was a fortune then (and while that's only 1.2 million adjusted to our dollars, that's not adjusted to what it takes to build quality work!)...

Its 190 apartments, all two to four rooms with bath, were furnished with $35,000 worth of furniture. In 1909 it sold for $200,000. Now, if you wanna talk Bunker Hill downturn, in a 1939 WPA census, the property was valued at $60,000.

The pensioners were "relocated" (sounds like they were put into camps) and it was demolished in 1962. In an article from January of that year (which states that, by 1970, the Bunker Hill project would be completed, covered in thirty and forty story towers for urban work and living), "Under the agency's demolition program, the latest building to go is the old Frontenac Hotel Apartment, a four-story boxlike structure at 212 S Grand Ave. Its tenants were cleared out not long ago and wrecking crews moved in. Now daylight shows through the upper floors where workmen are tearing at is insides."

Here's an image from aught-nine, and one from the mid-late '50s.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4034/...fa1207fb_o.jpg


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2737/...52757ce0_o.jpg

I think there are so few pictures of it because it was across the street from the Dome, and everyone loved to shoot that, turning their back on the poor Frontenac. Its exact location, should you ever want to visit, was 120' south of Second St. Roughly between the entrance of Coulbourn and MOCA.

Now, here's a shot from the glory days of Bunker Hill "gone to seed," 1953:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4015/...77d019c5_o.jpg

The Frontenac can be seen in basically every ubiquitous shot of BH taken from the top of City Hall (uh, except for those after 1962, of course). In this shot, that intersection at the bottom left is Olive and Second, and Second runs up to Grand. And there sits the unmistakable Dome. Across from the Dome, and a little ways over to the left there, that big guy is the Frontenac.

Anyway, that's where Daniel and May were, on top of the world!

Hey Mark, don't know if you're still following (I'll have to send you a pm), but I finally got a decent image of the Frontenac—

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4354/...5f59d4a4_h.jpg

which adds

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4401/...f122304d_b.jpg

tovangar2 Aug 9, 2017 6:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7887240)
THE CITY OF ANGELS - One hundred Years of Los Angeles -- VIDEO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ3Xzb5iXQw


Thank you CBD. I was delighted to see 10569 Pico (below) in it's glory days:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/2N...g=w641-h360-no


Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7280558)

And speaking of Frank L Stiff, who designed many small commercial buildings in the 20s and 30s, a 1929 effort of his in WLA has had all the accumulated, extraneous stuff stripped away. A very minor, but very welcome "save".

"Before", 10569 W Pico at Prosser:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-a...8%252520PM.jpg
gsv 2014

"After":
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5...7%252520AM.jpg
gsv 2015

For decades there was a charming old-time barbershop here on the Prosser side of the building (in the center space), run by a Mr and Mrs Katz. Mr Katz had an incredible beard and a mustache like one never sees anymore. He could tell the most wonderful stories about old LA. My kids got all their haircuts here:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E...9%252520PM.jpg
gsv 2014

The pretty, original ironwork is intact (again). I love it when buildings get their transparency back:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-h...9%252520PM.jpg
gsv 2015

Now, after the better-part of 90 years as a pharmacy, it's currently a T-Mobile store:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/rO...Q=w827-h317-no
gsv

The pharmacy moved a few doors to the west.

CityBoyDoug Aug 9, 2017 1:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7888201)
Thank you CBD. I was delighted to see 10569 Pico (below) in it's glory days:

Now, after the better-part of 90 years as a pharmacy, it's currently a T-Mobile store:


T2

Thanks....great old time stories.

ethereal_reality Aug 10, 2017 12:03 AM

I happened upon this girl's swimming ticket issued by Los Angeles High School back in 1933.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/kAllni.jpg



reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/yxhpzz.jpg

My question is......what swimming pool?

Did the school have it's own pool?
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found here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Los-Ang...YAAOSw~bFWI9Hr

ethereal_reality Aug 10, 2017 2:16 AM

re: Four Oaks

Is there a haunted restaurant in Beverly Glen?


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/PGjPjQ.jpg
gsv

here's some information...

"The defunct restaurant, located at 2181 N Beverly Glen Blvd., has quite an interesting history. Legend has it that the Four Oaks name came as a result of a massive tree nearby
formed from the trunks of four separate trees. As time and civilization progressed, roads were paved and the journey became less arduous, and that is when the trouble started.

The restaurant became a speakeasy in the 1920s with illegal hooch and prostitutes. Given the clientele, a number of bad things could have happened on that piece of real estate. The one documented case was a doozy. Down a bit from the current Four Oaks site, a man stormed into a roadhouse and confronted his wife in bed with her lover. In a rage, he hacked off the male adulterer’s head with a scythe, bathing the room in blood. The locals captured the murderer and hanged him, and the wandering wife inherited all of the man’s money and property. According to legend, the husband and his victim still wander the area at night, one of them dressed “in his favorite yellow opera cape.”

A second apparition has been seen inside the Four Oaks Restaurant and is described as “a large, glowing apparition that hovers near the fireplace in the dining room or in the bar. It has been seen by many but no one can give a clear description of the ghost’s features or determine if it is a man or woman.”


Ghost Hunter’s Guide to Los Angeles by Jeff Dwyer (Pelican, 2007) via onthestreetla_blog


This 2nd view from the google_mobile shows the side parking lot.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/OTSCoH.jpg
gsv


A cluster of fine looking trees used to stand in the center of the lot. (sadly they're gone :()
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/8E0ZEM.jpg
2011 gsv

but I don't believe they were oaks. (right odinthor?)



I've had this menu in an old file of mine for quite some time. (I don't believe I ever posted it on NLA)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/ihGcFB.jpg
ebay

1980?
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/g2nv7L.jpghttp://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/WSFayd.jpg
ebay


info on the back of the menu
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/WaR6ai.jpg

ok, that last line answered my earlier question :previous:. The trees in the earlier google view were eucalyptus. (but you can still weight in odinthor :))



A restaurant review of the Four Oaks from the 1993 Los Angeles Times.

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-11-...aks-restaurant

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CityBoyDoug Aug 10, 2017 2:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7888922)
I happened upon this girl's swimming ticket issued by Los Angeles High School back in 1933.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/kAllni.jpg



reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/yxhpzz.jpg

My question is......what swimming pool?

Did the school have it's own pool?
_


found here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Los-Ang...YAAOSw~bFWI9Hr

Wow...that $1.50 ticket [season] in 1933 amounts to a whopping $28.00 in 2017. Pricey.

odinthor Aug 10, 2017 3:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7888994)
[...]
ok, that last line answered my earlier question :previous:. The trees in the earlier google view were eucalyptus. (but you can still weight in odinthor :))

[...]

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The gears in my little mind were turning, thinking "probably family Myrtaceae" (Eucalyptus etc. family); but I couldn't see enough detail to come up with a specific species (there are oh so many species of Eucalyptus, and they're still in a state of speciation such that a number of different species kind of grade into each other, making i.d. even more difficult). The flowers on the ones in the pic are quite bright and showy for a white-flowered Eucalyptus!

Andys Aug 10, 2017 4:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7888922)
I happened upon this girl's swimming ticket issued by Los Angeles High School back in 1933.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/kAllni.jpg



reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/yxhpzz.jpg

My question is......what swimming pool?

Did the school have it's own pool?
_


found here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Los-Ang...YAAOSw~bFWI9Hr

In the late 50's, my brother and I were in the CYO summer program. One day a week, we would go the LAHS swimming pool........An indoor pool, as I recall.

Andys

Tourmaline Aug 10, 2017 5:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7888922)
I happened upon this girl's swimming ticket issued by Los Angeles High School back in 1933.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/kAllni.jpg



The '32 Olympiad most probably had a positive impact on swimming's popularity in the LA area - despite the Depression. Per the image, Kathryn McComb presumably attended LAHS, which might have entitled attendees free access to the pool. However, perhaps the cost was a glorified towel/locker fee? :shrug:


The McComb name has been mentioned on NLA before, in particular, the jurist, Marshall McComb. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7993 Unclear whether Kathryn, who was probably born ~1917 (100 years ago), was related. Per various CDs, Judge McComb resided at 215 Occidental Blvd. The home was apparently demolished in 1986.


As a Superior Court Judge, McComb was called upon to approve studio contracts for underage players.

Quote:

A group of young Paramount players get special permission from Judge Marshall McComb to work: Lona Andre, Ida Lupino, Toby Wing, Baby LeRoy, and Grace Bradley. September, 1933
(Per IMDBhttp://www.imdb.com/name/nm0526946/b..._=nm_ov_bio_sm, Ida (born 1918) arrived in LA in 1934, so either the caption for the photo is incorrect or the IMDB's date of arrival is incorrect. In any event, Ida would have been roughly the same age as Kathryn McComb.)

http://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/55083...-toby-wing.jpghttp://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/55083...-toby-wing.jpg

ethereal_reality Aug 10, 2017 10:25 PM

:previous: Very interesting Tourmaline. I didn't think to research the card holder, Kathryn McComb.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja55 (Post 7887225)
That's Musso's Parisian Garden restaurant at 6300 Wilshire in the background. Is the little village part of Musso's?

Thanks Ninja! It was good to hear from you again.

To me the little 'village' set-up appears to be on a spot of land in the middle of the street :shrug:, like a traffic island except larger.
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Ok, I just looked at a google aerial and the 'village' might have been on the median in the middle of McCarthy Vista.

6300 Wilshire Blvd.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/IaoTGk.jpg




for a re-cap, here are the pics again.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/CYdWyQ.jpg
ebay


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/nSHHdT.jpg
ebay

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update: I just had a thought.

Perhaps this was around the time Disney's 'Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs' opened. Does anyone know if the premier was at the Carthay Circle Theater?
At the time, the Carthay was at the end of McCarthy Vista.

p.s. I think that might be a glimpse of the theater in the second photo.
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ethereal_reality Aug 10, 2017 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys (Post 7889434)
In the late 50's, my brother and I were in the CYO summer program. One day a week, we would go the LAHS swimming pool........An indoor pool, as I recall. Andys

Thanks Andys. Was the old building still standing then? I don't remember when it was demolished.


Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug
Wow...that $1.50 ticket [season] in 1933 amounts to a whopping $28.00 in 2017. Pricey.

If that's correct, the price would have been out of reach for many of the students.

so perhaps Kathryn was the daughter of a Superior Court Judge.
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ethereal_reality Aug 10, 2017 11:11 PM

Here's an interesting group of snapshots taken at a 'Mardi Gras' parade in Venice Ca [1930s]


#1
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/gKVg2e.jpgebay




#2
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/1rRWiN.jpgebay

The sign on the car says 'Venice Lions Club'.




#3
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/xCb3Lt.jpgebay




#4
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/JVFi7u.jpgebay




#5
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/NPKrFr.jpgebay

I believe this is a 'drunk' guy on a tight-rope.




#6
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/8ozq6z.jpgebay





#7
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/EdAuli.jpgebay

We've seen these big-headed people before. Now we know they're from the Mardi Gras parade!




#8 (the Lions Club car again)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/iccjse.jpgebay

I'm struck by how beautiful the blonde driver is. I wonder if the Venice Lions Club borrowed her and the lion from MGM?

here's a closer look
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/z4UZSX.jpg
detail

Does she look familiar to anyone?

I want to say Thelma Todd.
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ethereal_reality Aug 11, 2017 12:08 AM

Here's one that I forgot.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/Cwf8AI.jpgebay

Do you think that building on the left is being moved or was it damaged in the 1934 flood?




I've been trying to read the street sign at the left edge.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/18GqmH.jpg
detail

anyone want to wager a guess?
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ethereal_reality Aug 11, 2017 12:18 AM

1916
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/U7qfgX.jpg


Thanks for the information on the various Eucalyptus trees odinthor.
I agree, the trees (now gone :() in that 2011 street view had some very nice blooms.

http://nostalgia.esmartkid.com/antiquepc053.jpg

ethereal_reality Aug 11, 2017 12:26 AM

Here's a wonderful photograph new to NLA.

Adelheid Steam-Mineral & Electric Bath Parlor, 212 South Los Angeles Street [1916]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/eTLpHR.jpg
Anaheim Public Library donated by Blanche Morley, June 24, 1969.

Adelheid Steam-Mineral & Electric Bath Parlors, located at 212 South Los Angeles Street (later Anaheim Blvd.), Anaheim; image shows facade of building that houses three businesses, left to right identified as the bath parlors, Red Cross Realty Co. (W.H. Shuman Mgr.), and The Old Wine Depot of Wm. Koenig; 11 figures are standing on sidewalk in front of building, Mrs. Adelheid Koenig, owner of the bath parlors and Wine Depot, identifed as fifth from the left. [1916]

Zoomable view here:
http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Fullscreen....z1&&brand=oac4

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Flyingwedge Aug 11, 2017 2:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7889853)
Here's one that I forgot.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/Cwf8AI.jpgebay

Do you think that building on the left is being moved or was it damaged in the 1934 flood?


I've been trying to read the street sign at the left edge.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/18GqmH.jpg
detail

anyone want to wager a guess?
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Sure! I'll confidently bet $5 that we're looking at the NE corner of Rose Avenue and 4th Avenue in Venice.

That's a good guess about the building having been moved, e_r. It looks like 405 Rose Avenue, and there is a June 18, 1937, BP
to move 1332 Wilshire (between Witmer and Valencia) to 405 Rose. So maybe the building got a haircut for the move and we're
looking at 405 Rose soon after it was moved there?

CityBoyDoug Aug 11, 2017 4:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7889853)
Here's one that I forgot.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/Cwf8AI.jpgebay

Do you think that building on the left is being moved or was it damaged in the 1934 flood?




I've been trying to read the street sign at the left edge.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/18GqmH.jpg
detail

anyone want to wager a guess?
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Notice on the side of building that a brick chimney has been removed.....for the moving.

Lorendoc Aug 11, 2017 6:00 AM

Ann Street
 
In the 40s, the urban hygiene movement targeted many other places than Bunker Hill. One such location was the Ann Street neighborhood, located in Dogtown (so named for the racket caused by the inmates of the nearby Ann Street Animal Shelter) adjacent to new Chinatown.

This 1940 photo (zoomable here) shows a row of shacks with a large building on the next block.

http://i.imgur.com/5Lb2e2b.jpg
calisphere.org

The street sign at the left is legible and says "Magdalena" which puts the camera in the 200 block of E. Ann Street looking NW and makes the large building on the next block the Ann Street School. [There is still an elementary school by that name at this location, but it is new construction.]

Here is a reverse view taken from the school looking SE over an industrial wasteland, with some eye-candy for the railroad enthusiasts.

http://i.imgur.com/y0ryRFd.jpg
calisphere.org

http://i.imgur.com/4lyCofw.jpg
calisphere.org

In the distance next to a water tower is a large sign reading "Cudahy." This was a meat packing company on Macy Street; today it is the site of the Twin Towers jail.

A Sanborn map from c. 1950 shows that the William Mead Homes housing project has replaced the slum structures, and Ann Street now ends at Magdalena. This makes it impossible to get a "now" version of the first photo with GSV.

http://i.imgur.com/aIJcHS6.jpg
lapl.org

From the Wikipedia entry on the William Mead Homes:
The site was funded with the federal Housing Act of 1937. The proposal to build the site was rejected in December 1940 because of high land purchase costs (averaging $23,900 per acre, when other developments were as low as $2400). 8 acres (3.2 ha) was owned by the Consolidated Steel Corporation. The remaining property was on land bequeathed by William Mead, an early Los Angeles politician.

The land price was reduced to $20,000 an acre by January 1941, but didn't proceed until a federally-backed United States Housing Authority loan signed by Franklin D. Roosevelt was given on March 12, 1941.

It was built in 1941-1942 and contains 449 units in 24 buildings, replacing approximately 100 substandard dwellings on the site. It occupies 15.2 acres (6.2 ha) and was constructed by the Herbert M. Baruch Corporation for $1.2 million. David Gebhard and Robert Winter state the details "slightly suggest the late 1930s Moderne."

Residency in the project was limited to low-income American citizens who had lived in Los Angeles for at least a year. It was also part of a "Negro quota" system, which mandated a maximum of 7 percent black occupancy. This changed to 15% in January 1943, and was completely removed in July 1943 after pressure and protests by the National Urban League, California Eagle, Los Angeles Sentinel, NAACP, and the CIO union. The development was opened for war workers in March 1943.

Part of the project was built on an oil refinery and a hazardous waste dump. In 1994, cancer-causing polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons were found at levels 19 times the safe level following testing by the California Department of Toxic Substances Control. Playgrounds and gardening spaces were closed, and a $1.5 million soil removal and cleanup project was required in 2000. The refinery was operated by Amalgamated Oil Company, which was later purchased by Texaco. The waste dump was operated by Witco Corporation, now part of the Chemtura Corporation. At the time, the project was home to 1400 residents, many Latino and Vietnamese. The Housing Authority sued ChevronTexaco for the cleanup costs in April 2003.
Here is a Bing bird's-eye view of the area:
http://i.imgur.com/AWiZgkP.jpg
www.bing.com/maps

And here are 1940s vintage views of denizens of the Ann Street School: some staff...
http://i.imgur.com/KKZ2t9q.jpg
calisphere.org

...and some remarkably cheerful smallpox vaccine recipients:
http://i.imgur.com/lLBvQEq.jpg
calisphere.org

I suspect the faces may have been less cheerful a few minutes before this picture was taken :)


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