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HossC May 28, 2016 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by asher11 (Post 7455685)

I've been following this thread for quite a while now and I am fascinated by the older views of LA and especially why and how it grew from almost nothing to the huge place it has become in such a short period of time. One thing that perplexes though is viewing posts of scenes like that in post number 35201. Time and again I see huge volumes of terrain being carved out of the landscape. So, I have a couple of questions for Angelinos:
1) why was this done? (it's got to be more than just flattening the place for the hell of it).
2) where did all that dirt get moved to?
3) can I assume that LA is much more level now that it was say in 1901.

I'm sure we've seen a similar comparison before, but since I can't find the posts about where the Bunker Hill dirt went to, I thought it would be quicker to make a new one. Here's an undated picture of the Hill Street tunnel from 1st Street.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...LA1stHill1.jpg
USC Digital Library

And this is the same view today. As you can see, it's a lot more level than it used to be!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...LA1stHill2.jpg
GSV

HossC May 29, 2016 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7456370)

detail
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/2DQZyL.jpg

:previous: A. Levy & J. Ze _ _ _ _ er Co.

A Levy & J Zentner Co is listed at 1525 E 8th Street from 1939 until 1973. The 1939 CD lists the company under Produce Commission Merchants.

westcork May 29, 2016 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7456383)
A nice looking lady about to board streetcar #5026, somewhere in Glendale. August 16, 1952.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/PcmeIW.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/orig-1952-2-...3D231952463140

I've never seen (or noticed) a front window open before.

Wig-Wag May 29, 2016 4:39 AM

Automatic Train Stop
 
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7456343)
"Look closely at the photo and you can see marks in the pavement where the end of track has been over run!" -Wig Wag



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/WpkbbC.jpg
detail





Why not use one of these?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/l82MN0.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/original-195...wAAOSwMN9XQkVo

P.E. Automatic Stopper, Subway Tunnel, 9 / 30 / 1950


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/oEYn64.jpg

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This device goes back to 1901 and was first used on the New York subway system in 1906. Since the majority of that system is not accessible to the public except at raised platforms it does not present a hazard to pedestrians or vehicular traffic.

The device, while quite effective, would pose a hazard on a public street. As shown in the photo, the device is at the entrance to the PE subway tunnel in what was known as Toluca Yard - also off limits to the general public. It is still a hazard to railway workers, but no more so than switch stands, dwarf signals and the rails themselves, which the railroaders are aware of and deal with on a daily basis. Here is a report from a 1906 edition of the Railway Times describing it's operation. Note that the three car lengths stopping distance would put a PE or LARY car all the way through an intersection!

Cheers,
Jack

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...psmec8tejn.jpg

ethereal_reality May 29, 2016 2:23 PM

:previous: Very helpful information Wig Wag.

I appreciate your answers to all my elementary rail questions.

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7456441)
A Levy & J Zentner Co is listed at 1525 E 8th Street from 1939 until 1973. The 1939 CD lists the company under Produce Commission Merchants.

Thanks Hoss.....so the missing word was Zentner. Good sleuthing
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ethereal_reality May 29, 2016 2:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7454854)

Columbia Pictures Screen Snapshots Series 19, No 6: Hollywood Recreations. Documentary Short / Released March 29, 1940 (USA)

"Hollywood stars are glimpsed at a Hollywood Stars baseball team game,
on the golf course, at a swimming exhibition, at Monkey Island and an amusement park."

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0293919/

Drools...

:previous: Monkey Island!!!!!

MUST FIND VIDEO

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Earl Boebert May 29, 2016 3:16 PM

The American Aviation Historical Society held their 60th Annual Meeting at the restored Grand Central Air Terminal in Glendale. Article here:

http://www.aahs-online.org/flightline/fl_192.pdf

Cheers,

Earl

ethereal_reality May 29, 2016 4:17 PM

'mystery' location.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/sfSwHx.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-B-W-Rail...oAAOSwZetXOgdW

"Los Angeles bound Pacific Electric Freight Train near Los Angeles, 12 / 1942."

H. L. Kelso
1735 E. 69th St.
Los Angeles, Cal.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...921/Gk2AKs.jpg



Here's an enlargement.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/mUNEbF.jpg

note the four set of tracks. -if only we could read what's written on the water tower.
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ethereal_reality May 29, 2016 4:22 PM

'mystery' location #2. [Los Angeles, 1970s]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/zCptP9.jpg
from
http://www.art-agenda.com/reviews/lo...our-ecologies/


I've flipped this detail /
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/s6fLCO.jpg

It appears there's a Citizen Bank behind the photographer.

-also note the 5 digit street number above the door.:previous:

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ethereal_reality May 29, 2016 4:33 PM

I just noticed noirish Los Angeles has surpassed 12 million views!

Congratulations everyone!


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HossC May 29, 2016 5:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7456715)

I just noticed noirish Los Angeles has surpassed 12 million views!

Congratulations everyone!

Sorry I didn't do one of my usual images to celebrate. I had planned to stop at 10 million views until I spotted something suitable for 11 million. I'll mark future milestones if I find a suitable picture to modify :).

Thanks to ethereal_reality and everyone else who continue to make NLA such a great place to hangout.


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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7456711)

That's the corner of Kinross and Gayley Avenues in Westwood.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
GSV

Here are the buildings in the mirror. I've reflected the inset image.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
GSV

ethereal_reality May 29, 2016 5:57 PM

:previous: That's it! Good job Hoss
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We've seen 'candy cars' before on NLA, but this original negative is new (to NLA)


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/RfWcs0.jpg
eBay

"LATL, Candy Car Christmas Time 1948, on 54th Street." (does anyone know the street address of the 54th St. Market?) -perhaps we've visited it before on NLA.

writing on the negative sleeve.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...921/6F1dbe.jpg

:previous: In 1948 there were only two 'candy' street cars and one bus. (by 1950 there were fifteen)

...more information on the Candy Cars, & a COLOR photograph here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=27561

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ethereal_reality May 29, 2016 7:16 PM

"A photo opportunity for students at a Hollywood Boulevard modeling school."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/Q5aj17.jpg
old file

My internet searches keep leading me to the Patrica Stevens Modeling School in Kansas City MO.

Does anyone know where the branch in Hollywood was located?

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One of the few other 'Patricia Stevens' related items I found was this 'Central Casting' form for Marilyn McMahon, circa 1949.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/9COC2K.jpg
http://outlet.historicimages.com/products/rse03453

ethereal_reality May 29, 2016 7:20 PM

'mystery' location.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/ms8z3T.jpg
eBay

Three rather unattractive facade do-overs. (especially the two-tone beige number on the left) It's no doubt a pretty nice looking building underneath.



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HossC May 29, 2016 8:06 PM

In the middle of all the West Hollywood pictures, I found something a little different. From the title, I'm guessing that this is Julius Shulman's own darkroom. This is "Job 4975: Julius Shulman, darkroom,1973".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

Both from Getty Research Institute

HossC May 29, 2016 9:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7456785)

'mystery' location.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/ms8z3T.jpg
eBay

Three rather unattractive facade do-overs. (especially the two-tone beige number on the left) It's no doubt a pretty nice looking building underneath.

The is Pacific Boulevard looking north from Gage Avenue. From the 1973 CD, here are some of the businesses that are visible:

6323 Pacific Blvd Hargraves Stationers
6333 Pacific Blvd Seven Seas Ceramics and Gifts
6339 Pacific Blvd Wig Plaza
6347 Pacific Blvd Michaels Furniture & Appliance Co
6347 Pacific Blvd Radio Shack
6351 Pacific Blvd Wineman's Dept Store

The three buildings on the left are still standing.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
GSV

Ed Workman May 30, 2016 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7456707)
'mystery' location.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...922/sfSwHx.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-B-W-Rail...oAAOSwZetXOgdW

"Los Angeles bound Pacific Electric Freight Train near Los Angeles, 12 / 1942."


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...921/Gk2AKs.jpg



Here's an enlargement.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/mUNEbF.jpg

note the four set of tracks. -if only we could read what's written on the water tower.
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These tracks were known as Fourtacks [ not the four tracks]
Now if H.L. Kelso sez the freight was LA bound I believe it- he was a proflifc photographer of railrodd thems.
One check on location would be to look at a topo map, because MANY photos show LA City Hall far beyond at the point where the tracks "touch" in perspective. This shot would have been taken farther south than the somewhat classic view.
Folks with recent experience at "Phillipe" might tell us if his photographic works are displayed on the walls. Around 1950 he and his like minded friends were regulars.
Pic hunters should ,if they haven't previously, present studies on Phillipe herein. Hint : Across Alameda from LAUPT

CityBoyDoug May 30, 2016 2:14 AM

Solid Gold NLA
 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps4a2588db.jpg

Earl Carroll built his second famous theater at 6230 Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood, California. It opened on December 26, 1938. As he had done at the New York theater, over the entrance Carroll emblazoned the words "Through these portals pass the most beautiful girls in the world". - Hollywood.

HenryHuntington May 30, 2016 3:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Workman (Post 7456933)
These tracks were known as Fourtacks [ not the four tracks]
Now if H.L. Kelso sez the freight was LA bound I believe it- he was a proflifc photographer of railrodd thems.
One check on location would be to look at a topo map, because MANY photos show LA City Hall far beyond at the point where the tracks "touch" in perspective. This shot would have been taken farther south than the somewhat classic view.
Folks with recent experience at "Phillipe" might tell us if his photographic works are displayed on the walls. Around 1950 he and his like minded friends were regulars.
Pic hunters should ,if they haven't previously, present studies on Phillipe herein. Hint : Across Alameda from LAUPT

FWIW, the only stretch of right-of-way that satisfies the major condition (a residential neighborhood on both sides and not paralleled by either Long Beach or Graham Aves.) runs from E. 60th St. to Florence Ave. A search on Google Earth failed to turn up our water tower, but the photo's now 74 years old. A bit of haze (smog didn't happen officially until the following year) might've obscured City Hall on the day of the photo.

HossC May 30, 2016 1:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7456707)

'mystery' location.

"Los Angeles bound Pacific Electric Freight Train near Los Angeles, 12 / 1942."

Here's an enlargement.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/mUNEbF.jpg

note the four set of tracks. -if only we could read what's written on the water tower.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Workman (Post 7456933)

These tracks were known as Fourtacks [ not the four tracks]
Now if H.L. Kelso sez the freight was LA bound I believe it- he was a proflifc photographer of railrodd thems.
One check on location would be to look at a topo map, because MANY photos show LA City Hall far beyond at the point where the tracks "touch" in perspective. This shot would have been taken farther south than the somewhat classic view.
Folks with recent experience at "Phillipe" might tell us if his photographic works are displayed on the walls. Around 1950 he and his like minded friends were regulars.
Pic hunters should ,if they haven't previously, present studies on Phillipe herein. Hint : Across Alameda from LAUPT

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Originally Posted by HenryHuntington (Post 7457041)

FWIW, the only stretch of right-of-way that satisfies the major condition (a residential neighborhood on both sides and not paralleled by either Long Beach or Graham Aves.) runs from E. 60th St. to Florence Ave. A search on Google Earth failed to turn up our water tower, but the photo's now 74 years old. A bit of haze (smog didn't happen officially until the following year) might've obscured City Hall on the day of the photo.

Going by the shadows, I think the water tower appears on these aerial views below which are from 1952 and 1963. I've arrowed a location on both which is on the south-west corner of the intersection of the railroad and E Gage Avenue. The tower was replaced by a larger, ground-standing tank by 1972.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...r.jpg~original
Historic Aerials


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