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ethereal_reality Apr 26, 2015 3:17 PM

:previous: Thanks for the reminder Tourmaline.

Since we're discussing the packing plant again, I thought I'd enlarge this photograph from BifRayRock's original post.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/xdYMK9.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...913/EBLqqk.jpg

I love the little formal garden. -but why the need for the fence? It's open on the opposite side.

Today, the site of the garden and north Cudahy building is a junk yard. :(

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/87mrcX.jpg
google_earth


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ethereal_reality Apr 26, 2015 4:05 PM

Here is a group of slides from 1952 that resemble today's Instagrams.

A little girl, who happens to look like my cousin, at Hollywood and Vine with the Melody Lane in the background.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/K70M71.jpg
eBay


Grauman's Chinese Theater (obviously ;))

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/tt999o.jpg


Kappa Delta house entrance with the street number 919 (USC or UCLA?)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/911/Egf7eX.jpg
eBay


This one is a mystery, the rooftop sign at upper right appears to say...farmer's (?)
Also note the "Dell entrance" sign. They must be selling computers. Oh wait, this is 1952! ;)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/zazgs3.jpg


Another mystery. My guess is the Sunset Strip or Restaurant Row on La Cienega. (see enlargement at the end of the post)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/633/FQvlYv.jpg
eBay


Vine Street Brown Derby.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/jSObzc.jpg
eBay



Another type of mystery, 'The Mystery of Life'. (I believe this is Forest Lawn, Glendale)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/p8FX5J.jpg
eBay


..and there was also this vertical slide of Grauman's..

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/grNXaj.jpg
eBay
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Here's the enlargement I promised. :)

Cocktails!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/g5fdTf.jpg
detail / eBay

Could this be Dino's?

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Wig-Wag Apr 26, 2015 4:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6975712)
FlyingWedge wrote:

"The old Jewish Cemetery can be seen in the ravine in the distance at the left side of the photo below, taken c. 1885."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/5YNT6A.jpg
Huntington Digital Archive

I was wondering whatever happened to the Jewish Cemetery.

Here it is listed as "Hebrew Cemetery" on a map dated 1897.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/RuUbZt.jpg
https://www.pinterest.com/bigmapblog/


By 1913 it's missing.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...911/MTcGma.jpg
http://www.lapl.org/collections-reso...map-collection

I know we've discussed the removal of bodies from the larger Calvary Cemetery (to the east of the Jewish Cemetery), but I don't recall discussing the Jewish Cemetery.

Paragraphs below excerpted from:

http://www.wsjhistory.com/early_jewish_la.htm

The majority 47 of remains from the old cemetery in Chavez Ravine were moved to the B'nai B'rith Cemetery in May, June and July, 1910. They were all located in the Benevolent section of the new cemetery, as approved by the Board of Directors of the Congregation B'nai B'rith. 48 By the end of 1910, all removals were completed.

For a short period in the 1930's the remaining cemetery property was leased out as a rubbish dump. 59 In 1938, the federal government proposed a Naval Armory adjacent to the vacant cemetery land. 60 This adjacent land included the portion purchased by the City of Los Angeles in 1905 from the Hebrew Benevolent Society. Arrangements were made and the city conveyed its land, by grant deed to the federal government. 61 On November 30, 1942, a "Us Pendens" action was taken by the federal government concerning the remain­ing vacant cemetery land. 62 On April 29, 1943, the Jewish Social Service Bureau, with the approval of the Jewish Wel­fare Federation Board, sold the remaining cemetery property to the federal government for $4,200.00. 63 Final judgment was on August 23, 1943. 64 This ended Jewish ownership of the cemetery property except for the subsurface oil, mineral and gas rights which are retained by the Jewish Family Service. 65 These oil rights still bring in a small amount of royalties annually.

Cheers,
Jack

tovangar2 Apr 26, 2015 4:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7004603)

This one is a mystery, the rooftop sign at upper right appears to say...farmer's (?)
Also note the "Dell entrance" sign. They must be selling computers. Oh wait, this is 1952! ;)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/zazgs3.jpg

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"Farmers' Market"

ethereal_reality Apr 26, 2015 5:00 PM

:previous: Yes, but is it the famous Farmer's Market? I don't recall that type of sign being on the premises.
What does it say under Farmer's Market?....if it says 'shops', then it probably is the iconic landmark. (actually, after I squinted long enough, I think it says 'stores')

Now that I think about it a little longer, since the rest of the vintage slides were of tourist attractions, I'd say you're probably correct T2.


I've been looking for the sign in question. (but this aerial pre-dates the 1952 slide by at least a decade I'd say) I really need to find a more recent one.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/913/LjCbiV.jpg
http://www.farmersmarketla.com/history

If we locate the sign, we should be able to figure out the store in the foreground with the 'Dell entrance' and _ _ _ _ _ MAN'S SHOP sign. (probably 'SPORTSMAN')

tovangar2 Apr 26, 2015 5:05 PM

:previous:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I...00204%2BAM.jpg
inherentstyle

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-f...01127%2BAM.jpg
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Congratulations e_r on 1400 noirish thread pages.

That must mean it's time to check in again with noir beauty queen/murderess/madam/etc Hazel Glab
here on June 26, 1928:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i...93911%2BAM.jpg
lapl

ethereal_reality Apr 26, 2015 5:23 PM

You found it!

....and it's still there :). I see they changed the bottom half of the sign.

Thanks for your quick response tovanger2. I somehow overlooked this particular sign (and ya'll know how I love rooftop signs;))
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GaylordWilshire Apr 26, 2015 5:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7004603)
Here is a group of slides from 1952 that resemble today's Instagrams.
Kappa Delta house entrance with the street number 919 (USC or UCLA?)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/911/Egf7eX.jpg
eBay


USC.... The KD house was at 919 West 28th... the home of Frederick C. Howes, a county assesor, and later art collector Paul R. Mabury, who died there in 1939. It's gone--

ethereal_reality Apr 26, 2015 5:35 PM

:previous: Man, that's bad news. :( It looks like a gorgeous house.

CityBoyDoug Apr 26, 2015 5:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7004603)
Here is a group of slides from 1952 that resemble today's Instagrams.


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Here's the enlargement I promised. :)

Cocktails!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/g5fdTf.jpg
detail / eBay

Could this be Dino's?

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ER....this is Victor Hugo's Restaurant in Laguna Beach. I was there once, long time ago. Nice place with white table cloths, as I recall.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psllzi0qzt.jpg
vintagecards
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psubdwmwj7.jpg
Deanna Durbin hotspots

ethereal_reality Apr 26, 2015 6:09 PM

:previous: Good eye CityBoyDoug! I think you're correct.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/911/TREmvb.jpg
http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id...anguage,E.html

I believe this postcard shows the same green awning with stripes that you can see in the 1952 slide.

And CBD's second photograph shows the oval windows (there's one visible in the 1952 slide).
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I had to smile at "Deanna Durbin hotspots".

CityBoyDoug Apr 26, 2015 6:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7004698)
:previous: Good eye CityBoyDoug! I think you're correct.


I believe this shows the same green awning with stripes that you can see in the 1952 slide.
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Victor Hugo's was the type of place that most Noirishers would like....very posh without being overbearing.

tovangar2 Apr 26, 2015 6:53 PM

Farmers' Market signage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7004655)
You found it!

....and it's still there :). I see they changed the bottom half of the sign.

I somehow overlooked this particular sign (and ya'll know how I love rooftop signs;))
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Although it's an iconic shape, it's easy to overlook b/c no neon :-(

It's on the Fairfax side of Farmers' Market by the parking entrance and has no extra lettering on the street side these days (although it did at least until last August):

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h...13018%2BAM.jpg
gsv december 2014

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-f...14331%2BAM.jpg
examiner

Looks like the sign's orientation has changed since your tourist photo too.

And the "Dell Entrance" is now just called Gate 4 according to the latest plan

Martin Pal Apr 26, 2015 6:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 7004419)
Also the billboard to the left seems to be advertising Life with Father (1947) starring William Powell and Irene Dunne which would put the date of the image somewhat earlier than 1948. Hard to believe they'd still be doing billboard adverts on a film a year after initial release. But maybe.

IMDB has the film released September 13, 1947, in the U.S., so does anyone know how long films were advertised? I'm assuming popular films, and this one was, might play longer and their advertising longevity somewhat longer as well?

GaylordWilshire Apr 26, 2015 7:05 PM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q...s640/vhnv1.jpg
Warner Bros

Several online sources say scenes of Now Voyager were filmed at the Victor Hugo Inn in Laguna...standing in for Rio I think it was...or at least used process shots filmed there.


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2...I/s720/vh2.jpg
flickr


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e...4/s800/vh1.jpg
viewlinerltd.blogspot.com

tovangar2 Apr 26, 2015 7:30 PM

Victor Hugo's has been rebuilt as Las Brisas, 361 Cliff Drive, Laguna Beach:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-U...22627%2BPM.jpg
lasbrisas (more pix at link)

CityBoyDoug Apr 26, 2015 7:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7004803)
Victor Hugo's has been rebuilt as Las Brisas, 361 Cliff Drive, Laguna Beach:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-U...22627%2BPM.jpg
lasbrisas (more pix at link)

This would be more in tune with the times.....California casual.

The Victor Hugo's type of place probably doesn't fit in today's mix of restaurants. Most all of the white-table-cloth places have closed or been re-born as something else.

ethereal_reality Apr 26, 2015 8:09 PM

Since we're 'visiting' the Victor Hugo in Laguna, here's a refresher on the Victor Hugo in Beverly Hills.


Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5452649)
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics38/00068923.jpgLAPL


More pics of the "I'm Victor Hugo" restaurant in B.H.... just kidding e_r:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-S...2520PM.bmp.jpg


latimemachines.com has this description: The Victor Hugo was at "233 N. Beverly Drive at Wilshire. Table d'hote Dinner in 1937 - $2. Owned by Hugo Aleidas. First location was 619 S. Grand Ave. Los Angeles, California"


Must also have once been on Hill:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e...2520PM.bmp.jpg

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I didn't know 'Now Voyager' used images of the Laguna Victor Hugo GW. That makes me want to see that scene again.
Is this where Paul Henreid lights two cigarettes in his mouth and then gives one to Bette?.....or was that in an earlier scene on the ocean liner? I can't remember.

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Flyingwedge Apr 26, 2015 8:23 PM

More Patmar's in El Segundo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 6309928)
The roundish cafe building enjoyed a second life as part of the clubhouse for the El Segundo golf course, about a mile south on Sepulveda Blvd. I think it lasted until around '93, when it was replaced. I couldn't find a ground-level photo, but this 1980 aerial shows the former cafe building at the golf course:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8d83e3e1.jpg
Historic Aerials.com -- http://www.historicaerials.com/

Here's a recent article on Patmar's history from the Daily Breeze: http://blogs.dailybreeze.com/history...in-el-segundo/

And here's HossC's original post on Patmar's: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17128

ethereal_reality Apr 26, 2015 9:00 PM

:previous: Thanks for the Daily Breeze link Flyingwedge.
I thought I'd go ahead and post these images. I think they're pretty terrific.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/J9ftyU.jpg
http://blogs.dailybreeze.com/history...in-el-segundo/


and in 1987, shortly before it was demolished.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...909/N0J0zx.jpg
Brad Graverson at http://blogs.dailybreeze.com/history...in-el-segundo/

"The relocated Patmar's restaurant is shown in its later incantation as the pro shop at El Segundo Gold Course (now The Lakes at el Segundo) in this Dec. 18, 1987 photograph."


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