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Martin Pal May 17, 2014 6:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6581650)
I don't know about 1931 but those cross-street subways are way too dangerous for today's uncivilized society. Today they are the perfect place to be raped or robbed.

There are still some of those around. There was one somewhere in East Hollywood I came across a few years ago. My thought was that I would not use it! Lol!

There's one at the Hollywood Bowl to cross under Highland. It's large, crammed with people when events are over, not at all pleasant, and if you're tall you have to bend your head down or to the side to walk through it. It's not much over six feet high, if that.

Martin Pal May 17, 2014 6:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6581013)
Academy Award Theater, 9038 Melrose Avenue, circa 1951
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/841/a5c2.jpg
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Nice find, E_R. I knew about this place for years because the Academy Awards were held here "one time only" in 1949. But I had never seen a photo of it at all until sopas ej did a post about it.

This is the first photo I've seen of the location in daylight. sopas's post, linked below, has many photos of the building at the time of these academy awards, both inside and out. They're all, I believe, from Life Magazine.

Also a little bit of history about that and the building, which used to be the Marquis Theatre.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6301

The address on Melrose is right before the triangle area where Melrose ends and runs into Doheny and Santa Monica Blvd., the boundary of West Hollywood and Beverly Hills.

ethereal_reality May 17, 2014 6:39 PM

:previous: -thanks for the information Martin_Pal.



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102.../842/qzfbo.jpg
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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/841/b7ri.jpg

ethereal_reality May 17, 2014 6:43 PM

rooftop sign alert! :)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/843/7dl5.jpg
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I'm not sure where this YMCA was located. (other than San Pedro of course)
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MichaelRyerson May 17, 2014 7:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6581650)
I don't know about 1931 but those cross-street subways are way too dangerous for today's uncivilized society. Today they are the perfect place to be raped or robbed.

You would be in decidedly greater danger in 1931.

GaylordWilshire May 17, 2014 7:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6582077)
There are still some of those around. There was one somewhere in East Hollywood I came across a few years ago. My thought was that I would not use it! Lol!

There's one at the Hollywood Bowl to cross under Highland. It's large, crammed with people when events are over, not at all pleasant, and if you're tall you have to bend your head down or to the side to walk through it. It's not much over six feet high, if that.


It seems that 70 pedestrian subways were proposed in LA proper alone, but I wonder how many were actually built...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-m...subway1rev.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h...subway2rev.jpg
LAT April 15, 1925



I thought there were more prior NLA posts on them, but I only found these on the one at Hollywood Bllvd & New Hampshire and another in Beverly Hills...

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6699


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=5948


CBD: You may want to believe that life was better in the good old days, but from all the old issues of the Times and the Herald that I've read, crime was just as rampant then as now. Robbery was very common in all parts of L.A., as were murder and rape. I believe the school crossings began to be shot down by the "idyllic" '50s because of crime.

CityBoyDoug May 17, 2014 7:29 PM

Harbor View House
 
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6582114)
rooftop sign alert! :)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/843/7dl5.jpg
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I'm not sure where this YMCA was located. (other than San Pedro of course)
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The building still survives...its now called Harbor View House...the largest non-profit board and care facility serving the mentally ill in California.

Location: 921 S. Beacon St., San Pedro

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pse89c5043.jpg
GSV

ethereal_reality May 17, 2014 8:07 PM

:previous: Thanks for the info CBD.


The Black Cat confectionery.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/839/ibyj.jpg
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The postcard appears to be quite old/ here's an early photo showing a Hotel Hayward down the street.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102.../843/c3zun.jpg
lapl

Hotel Hayward was built in 1905 (increased from 8 to nine stories in 1916)





more Hotel Hayward here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=10096

and here.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=10095

CityBoyDoug May 17, 2014 8:39 PM

Black-face waiters...hmmm
 
After a noir day in LA let's all head out to the Zulu Hut.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps771dbca1.jpg
http://www.martinturnbull.com/


1920s hotspot on Ventura Boulevard in Universal City where black-faced waiters dispensed somewhat incongruous cornpones (Cornmeal bread usually shaped into a flat cake and baked or fried on a griddle), squab and fried chicken in thatched huts.
Sometimes called Zululand, this open-air stand with an African jungle theme advertised as “half-mile beyond Universal City on Ventura Boulevard.” Proprietor Raymond McKee dubbed himself the Zulu Chief and waiters in blackface served fried chicken under rustling palms.

The whole affair sounds somewhat embarrassing by today's mores.

GaylordWilshire May 17, 2014 9:02 PM

:previous:


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-D...2520PM.bmp.jpg


As seen in this youtube video we might have seen before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldOnSehTD_I


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5...2520PM.bmp.jpghttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-d...2520PM.bmp.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-m...2520PM.bmp.jpg
LAT Nov 16, 1924/Dec 24, 1927/March 3, 1931

HossC May 17, 2014 9:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6582171)

Black Cat

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/839/ibyj.jpg
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Hotel Hayward was built in 1905 (increased from 8 to nine stories in 1916)

Here's a better picture of the Hotel Hayward before the extra story was added. The larger building behind it is the extant Walter P Story/New Story Building. On the right is the Los Angeles Trust and Savings Bank.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...d.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

Until I zoomed in, I didn't realize that the entrance of The Black Cat is visible.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...elHayward2.jpg
Detail of picture above.

CityBoyDoug May 17, 2014 9:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6582219)

You have to wonder....what was that guy thinking.

Of course there were several Sambo's restuaurants in LA a few years back.


Zulu Hut owner McKee
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps8995525a.jpg
wiki montage

ethereal_reality May 17, 2014 9:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6582246)
Until I zoomed in, I didn't realize that the entrance of The Black Cat is visible.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...elHayward2.jpg
Detail of picture above.

:previous: Oh man HossC, that is so cool! Great find.



one last look at the Black Cat
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/839/ibyj.jpg
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WS1911 May 17, 2014 10:52 PM

Weil Block and ghost staircase
 
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Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 6578407)
This seems to be another one of those under-photographed blocks. The 1921 Baist map shows the Weil Block there. The LAPL has a photo of the Weil Block, and says it "housed the Security Savings Bank and Trust Co., a predecessor of the contemporary Security Pacific National Bank, which opened in this building on Main Street, on February 11, 1889" It was a 3-story building. But none of this helps explain the ghost staircase!

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...il-21Baist.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...ock-lapl-1.jpg http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics26/00047798.jpg

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6578842)
USC has this picture dated December 1, 1932. It shows the Hoegee Sporting Goods Store, the Weil Block, and the Hotel Yorke on the corner.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ndMain1932.jpg
USC Digital Library

HDL has another color shot dated 2/15/60 (nine months before the one posted by FredH. The lower two floors of the Weil Block are still standing and the Meyberg Bros ghost sign hasn't been uncovered yet.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ndMain1960.jpg
Huntington Digital Library

Thanks so much to Noircitydame and HossC for your very helpful information! I knew about the Weil Block but have never placed its location. I'm guessing the rooms on the upper floors were reached by the entrance on the north end of the building. Could it have shared a common wall with the Hoegee Sporting Goods Store, thus accounting for the ghost staircase?

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ethereal_reality May 17, 2014 10:55 PM

I just noticed the beautiful hanging globes that adorn the Hotel Hayward.

circa 1910. I'd love to see them at night.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/844/ujii.jpg
detail http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/2151/rec/14


and here's one at far left above the main entrance. (also 1910)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/845/dl38.jpg
detail http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/2151/rec/14


details are from this photograph
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/834/vnv9.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/2151/rec/14

Ever since USC changed their website, I haven't been able to save a LARGE whole photograph.
The photograph above is as large as I get it. What am I doing wrong?
I don't have any problems with the zoomed in details)
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MichaelRyerson May 17, 2014 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6582322)
Ever since USC changed their website, I haven't been able to save a LARGE whole photograph.
The photograph above is as large as I get it. What am I doing wrong?
I don't have any problems with the zoomed in details)
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Hope somebody has an answer to this.

WS1911 May 17, 2014 11:38 PM

USC large format images
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6582322)

Ever since USC changed their website, I haven't been able to save a LARGE whole photograph.
The photograph above is as large as I get it. What am I doing wrong?
I don't have any problems with the zoomed in details)
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Sometimes you can save large images (over 500x500) from the Whittington Collection. But you can forget about the CHS collection. I think USC is afraid people will download, print and sell their photos, so they don't make large images available free. I've had to piece together screenshots to get a large image.

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ethereal_reality May 18, 2014 12:19 AM

The reason I mentioned it is because HossC was able to do it in his post from earlier today.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=21513

ethereal_reality May 18, 2014 12:24 AM

Hotel Maryland, Pasadena 1908

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102.../838/80llb.jpg
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I really like this photograph. There's some nice detailing happening along the roof-line.
Is that a city streetlight, or something the Hotel Maryland put up? (I see it's on city property)
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HossC May 18, 2014 12:57 AM

I found this 1927 picture of the Hotel Hayward (complete with hanging globes and extra floor), but what's that in the background on the right?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

I can't find any previous mentions of the Bedell Department Store at 6th and broadway - how could we have missed that roof sign?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

A different angle, this time looking along Broadway.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

Close-up of the roof sign.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z.../LABedell3.jpg
Detail of picture above.


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Regarding large images from USC, I'm lucky enough to have a high resolution screen, so I always screengrab my images. Most of the time I can grab them in one go, and often slightly reduce them in size before posting, but occasionally they need to be pieced together, e.g. the panorama of Vermont and 4th as seen in post #20570.


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