6 months at most? You're joking right?

2021 at the earliest.

Check the most recent article on the previous page. Related has until May 2020 to start work. Same thing was reported a few months back in another article. I'm with you. I'll believe it when I see it.

From what ive gathered form a few articles Alderman reilly said The new plan will be completely different and back to the drawing board to square 1, from what we all know as have seen as the 2 tower project that's gone. Hopefully it will be a bigger singular tower.

Yeah this won't be starting in 2020. Reilly has said there could be a meeting sometime early next year, but nothing more. It's likely that Related will just get an extension on the permitting like they did before.

Time to start wishing upon a star...

https://cdn3.whatculture.com/images/...fv-600x338.gif

EDIT: I really do hope we get some massive supertall here. Don't mind me being a downer.

Related has until May 2020 to start construction on whatever the new design will be. Otherwise, they'll be subject to the new ARO requirements.

If the new proposal is presented in Jan/Feb then gets approved in the following 3 months, I can see them breaking ground by the end of May assuming they have financing arranged/in place.

What New Aro requirements?

Thought they were to be edited and redesigned by summer 2020 per the new team led by burnett, sigcho, and others

I'd rather it simply be grand rather than "grandiose." "Grandiose" means grand, but with the added meaning of pretentious and oozing excess. It's not a complimentary word.

Whatever gets built there requires that Dusable Park be built out by the developer. That's made up of that 3-acre plot of land across LSD to the east from the 400 N LSD site. Given that, it wouldn't make any sense to turn the main site, one of the most valuable plots of undeveloped land between New York and San Francisco, land that already has a mostly-completed foundation suitable for up to a 2,000-foot tower, into a park, too.

Now more than ever would I love to see LSD tunneled from Ohio St to the Grant Park curve.

Right... developers aren't spending tens of millions of dollars on properties and designs to give up and put a non-revenue producing park... I'm not sure what that dude is smoking :koko:

Especially NOT Related

The agreement for the Spire was that the developer would re-hab/create DuSable park in exchange for the ramps. At the presentation last year the park was a prominent piece of the deal.

https://live.staticflickr.com/979/40...f649407d_b.jpg400 N Lake Shore Drive by Harry Carmichael, on Flickr

Hell no! You'd be missing out on some of the most amazing vantage points of the skyline if LSD was in a tunnel during that stretch. That includes views of this very project, and how it meets the lake and Chicago river. The experience along this stretch is part of why LSD is my favorite road to drive on. Way better than experiencing a dam tunnel.

^Bad for people in cars. Good for people out of cars. For me that's an easy decision every time.

Development takes time, see Wolf Point

Nov 27

The hole abides
Chicago | 400 N LSD by Harry Carmichael, on Flickr
activity is for the LSD work

the CTBUH seems to be under the impression that SOM towers aren't happening. More evidence of a major revision, or just the CTBUH being silly?

http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/buil...th-tower/33109

Supposedly going to be an all new design and start from scratch so we shall see.

Yea this project not happening I could of sworn I read somewhere that they have until May 2020 to build something on that Land. I said last month that this will end up being a park and nothing more. If something gets build get ready for another 500ft-600ft building

they will, with all the lots filing in nearby and with other large proposals and towers that didn't exist when this was proposed, in the area I think you could expect something better than what was before this. We shall see in a few months what turns up....

Just saw this picture of the old render top floors. So skinny. The top penthouse has to be the top four floors.
https://www.google.com/search?q=400+...cyZag_g1eguqmM

Wrong!

It’s ok to be in doubt , who wants to make bet on it ? Dinner where ever you want.

I will take that bet. Dinner where ever you want.

Let's take a moment to remember some suggested designs:

A conceptual idea
https://i.imgur.com/zUjXi8M.png

Gensler's Gateway tower
https://i.imgur.com/o8cgtGx.png

Palma's low-carbon tower
https://i.imgur.com/Psy3enV.png

TRA / Thomas Roszak
https://i.imgur.com/cXpHl8a.png

SOM / David Childs [current design]
https://i.imgur.com/1N3l962.png

STL
https://i.imgur.com/klti8LA.png

ZHA (right?)
https://i.imgur.com/f6Mz4Pa.png

deal

I really love SOM's design. It's both really contemporary and classic. Plus all those setbacks will make for awesome terraces. It's a really creative way to do balconies without them looking like crap.

ZHA's design looks great too but it looks less fully thought out.

Well, the naked site is worth $50,000,000. We don't need to guess how many units the market expects to be built there, based on that sale price. It's simple algebra. And it's more than would fit in a short tower. If you see the the land change hands and the price drops significantly, then maybe your idea is a little more plausible. But I'd wait to make any dinner bets until that happens.

This was an interesting proposal
https://www.chicagomag.com/city-life...son-center.jpg
https://www.chicagomag.com/city-life...e-Competition/

Gateway Tower was the best. I wish that was a reality.

Thompson center relocation second best in my opinion hahaha. A+ photoshop!

Gateway is by far the best for the entrance to Chicago. A little dull but I do like STL's two tower plan.

hahahaahahha..

but for real. gateway, all the way.

None of them really knocked it out of the park for me. Gateway may be the best of the bunch, but none of them were something I'd be super proud of beyond height.

Garrett Kelleher Recieves settlement
 

https://www.loopnorth.com/news/spire1029.htm


Wonder if garrett is partnering back with related to redo this thing since he received his settlement and is still interested in the parcel.

Cant wait to see what the plans entail in a few months.

Will chime in - I really loved the SOM design especially the form of taller tower. And if they used terra cotta like they were planning that would be an impressively tall terra cotta tower. Guess it doesn't matter now...

I thought nothing could be built east of Lake Shore Drive on land. Gateway is proposed to be partially built east of LSD based on the renderings.

It's just the support beam the form the 'gate' I believe. Also it's an over-the-top, not-to-serious concept.

Personally I love the STL version. At this point I would just be happy for the bike overpass to be completed though, haha.

AGREED! My favorite design thus far.

See the below link and refer to page 8, "but in no instance will further private development be permitted East of Lake Shore Drive."

https://www.chicago.gov/content/dam/...RulesFINAL.pdf

Maybe I'm splitting hairs here but Gateway appears to be proposed development east of Lake Shore Drive. I'm struggling to find further verbiage in the CZO but I'm almost positive it's there.

I'm fairly certain it is a moot point as that proposal was never close to moving forward (as much as I wish it would).

Also if I recall the Support was going to have capsules traveling along it and was billed as an attraction for the park.

This isn't a real proposal. . . move along. . .

. . .

the last official word we heard from the alderman is that there will be a public meeting to unveil the new plan sometime in the 1st quarter of this year, so anytime between now and easter.

Everytime I log in to this site and see a new post on this and also the tribune tower thread I get excited that the Go Ahead Greenlight has happened for them.

They haven’t given 400 lsd the go ahead yet though

I know...Like I said, that's why I get excited when I see new posts on these topics. Hoping to hear something about steps moving forward.

:brickwall:

I recently chatted with a reliable source. New proposal looks similar in design with a revamped podium and significant height cut.

:censor::censor::censor::censor::censor:

Their website has been teasing us with all those stunning renderings for over a year now. I suspect the revised design won't deviate that much from these renderings, because otherwise the developers would be embarrassing themselves. The renderings clearly show that it will be taller than the 843 ft One Bennett Park, so I bet the new design will remain visibly taller than 843 ft, probably at least 900 ft. But yeah, it's possible that it will no longer be a supertall, *SIGH*.