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HooverDam Oct 28, 2012 3:54 AM

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Originally Posted by exit2lef (Post 5882333)
Agreed. Many downtown hotels all over the country lack their own dedicated parking and make arrangements with nearby garages. This shouldn't be a deal breaker.

Especially considering the time shifting that can be done (hotels need cars parked at night, offices during the day) and the fact that we have a surplus on the order of thousands of excess spaces downtown.

Also that little dumpy building next to the potential hotel is on the Phoenix Historic Neighborhood Coalitions "Endangered Dozen" list, its the 1889 Steinegger Lodge. Its the 2nd oldest commercial building downtown. We need to be really thoughtful about all of our pre-Statehood building stock, especially anything pre 1900! That building predates Arizona Statehood by almost a quarter century, I'd hope in any development there its not demolished but rather have the brick facade restored and used as part of the hotel or whatever goes in there.

More info here:
http://www.myplanphx.com/favorite-va...einegger-lodge

PHXistheBEST Oct 29, 2012 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Arquitect (Post 5873688)
It is true. Although, this stupid argument about property rights is what has led our city to many of its problems. Developers only care about their own profit, rather then how it integrates with the city.

The funny thing is that property rights being taken away are just great when it is "everyone else". When it becomes [U]you[U] it is no longer great. The basic principal here is that this is a ideology. Some of you enjoy historic preservation...fine! Great! No one is stopping you from preserving your own house or working with the city to preserve city owned structures.

Would some of you like a ordinance to make certain properties be modern? How about a ordinance to have a certain number of palm trees planted in your yard? Sorry but some of you have ZERO respect for property rights.

PHXistheBEST Oct 29, 2012 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by HooverDam (Post 5873177)

4. Yes, my opinion of great. I think I do know what's best for Phx because I think about it constantly, Im well studied on the City, its history and what makes cities great in general. Great cities respect and preserve their history.

Your opinion on what is best for the city is not the same as everyone else's Will. I also know the history of the city. I also know the history of the country and that of the principals on which the country was founded and that is freedom and liberty. No I am not a member of the tea party as another poster claimed (I am in pro-choice, in favor of gay rights and for the seperation of church and state).

We are not discussing basic zoning regulations here. What is being talked about is having your ideology (historic preservation) shoved down the throats of property owners by people such as yourself who are not the property owners.

PHXistheBEST Oct 29, 2012 1:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PHX31 (Post 5873981)
So he is a moron.

You prove my point! Some of you don't like my opinons (maybe we should limit freedom of speech). When you can't win a argument, people such as yourself call others names like a 2 year old, instead of debating the issues. I think some are very short sighted here. Listen, I am in favor of education and voluntary historic preservation. Let people have the tax credits for historic preservation of property they own and that qualify for the overlay.

[U][B]Do it in a way that is less of a dictatorship!

Ted Lyons Oct 29, 2012 3:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PHXistheBEST (Post 5883288)
The funny thing is that property rights being taken away are just great when it is "everyone else". When it becomes [U]you[U] it is no longer great. The basic principal here is that this is a ideology. Some of you enjoy historic preservation...fine! Great! No one is stopping you from preserving your own house or working with the city to preserve city owned structures.

Would some of you like a ordinance to make certain properties be modern? How about a ordinance to have a certain number of palm trees planted in your yard? Sorry but some of you have ZERO respect for property rights.

I don't frequent this forum much but your idea of what is constitutionally allowable and what is not does not reconcile with reality. Numerous reasons exist for any given community to preserve historic properties and, outside of specific circumstances, courts review historic preservation legislation under a rational basis test. This standard isn't very difficult to fulfill and, contrary to your beliefs, the perceived infringement of individual property rights is not enough to prevent against landmark status or other historic designation.

nickw252 Oct 29, 2012 3:32 AM

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A new property designed to accommodate low-income adults who are either disabled or older than 54 opened in downtown Phoenix’s Roosevelt neighborhood Wednesday.

The Lofts at McKinley, on the northeastern corner of Fifth Avenue and McKinley Street, requires that its residents’ income is between $18,680 and $28,020 per year.

Phoenix officials say the developers built the 60-unit complex on the site of a vacant two-story office building that had become obsolete.

“The Lofts at McKinley really answer many of the City Council’s priorities for sustainability, affordability, accessibility and great design,” Phoenix housing director Kim Dorney said through a spokeswoman. “We are happy to be part of this new development.”

The construction cost $14.1 million, according to the city.

Gorman & Co., a Wisconsin company, received a $3 million loan from the Phoenix Housing Department for the project. Funding for that loan comes from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development through an entitlement grant for affordable housing.

“This is a quadruple win for our city — we are providing seniors with accessible housing right in the heart of downtown and making it sustainable for generations to come,” Mayor Greg Stanton said in a statement. “We’re also doing good business with our partners in the private sector to create an economically viable solution that improves our community. These are great results all packaged into one development, and I like what I’m seeing.”

Gorman specializes in downtown revitalization, adaptive reuse of historical buildings and affordable housing.

The company also has projects in Tempe and Glendale aimed at renters with physical disabilities or limited income. The apartments offer such features as keyless entry, higher toilets and wider doorways to allow greater maneuverability.

Amina Donna Kruck, director of advocacy for Arizona Bridge to Independent Living, a non-profit that helps people with disabilities, told The Republic in June 2011 that affordable housing for those with physical disabilities is in demand.

The group in 2010 retrofitted 243 homes in Maricopa County, she said.

Republic reporter Cecilia Chan contributed to this article.
http://www.azcentral.com/community/p...-downtown.html

These lofts look really good from the street. I wish more market rate buildings like this were built.

trigirdbers Oct 31, 2012 1:25 AM

I think what PHXistheBEST is ignoring is that a lot of the destruction of historic properties that goes on in this town is done by companies that take subsidies in one form or another from the city or state. So its not really the free market driving it at all. Or if you prefer, its the free market acting on artificial incentives.

nickw252 Oct 31, 2012 1:28 AM

Grand Canyon University pays $6.4M for 15 acres in Phoenix for expansion
 
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Grand Canyon University will use the $150 million originally earmarked for a Massachusetts expansion in its own backyard.

This comes a day after its parent, Phoenix-based Grand Canyon Education Inc., turned down a 217-acre campus in Northfield, Mass., from Oklahoma-based Hobby Lobby Stores Inc.

GCU President Brian Mueller told me today that he was committed to spending $150 million to build dorms and classrooms on that East Coast campus that eventually would grow to 5,000 students. But Northfield officials made it clear that GCU would be required to invest another $30 million to develop basic infrastructure, such as sewage and road expansions, he said.

“The cost started to mount on our side of it,” Mueller said. “There was just not going to be any capacity for the town to help. It’s not that they didn’t want to, the money is just not there.”

There also was an element in town that was afraid of growth, he said. The town’s entire population is 3,026 within 34 square miles within one of the poorest counties in the state.

But the overriding factor was the extra costs, Mueller said.

“It got to a point as a publicly traded company there was just too much risk for us to invest that kind of money and not be able to get any help,” he said. “It was just too much risk there.”

That $150 million was going to come out of the company’s internal cash flow, he said.

“We’re going to continue to invest that money in our current campus,” he said. “There is so much we can still do here in Arizona and in the Southwest, that we would get a better return for a lot less risk.”

Plans call for building two dorms and another classroom building on its Phoenix campus at 33rd Avenue and Camelback Road. The dorms are expected to be ready in fall 2013 and the classroom building a year later, Mueller said.

Meanwhile, GCU just paid $6.4 million to Crown Realty & Development for 15 acres that includes a 131,000-square-foot building that previously housed a SwapMart at 27th Avenue and Camelback Road. That property will be used to house GCU’s call center. Currently, GCU’s call center operations are at Interstate 17 and Peoria Ave. Eventually, those employees will be moved out as leases expire, and moved into the former SwapMart building.

“We will take that building and retrofit it to a call center and then possibly have to build another building on that same property to handle the number of people that would move over there,” Mueller said.

Of GCU’s 3,000 employees, about 2,000 work in its call center operations, split between the I-17 and Peoria Ave. site and another in Tempe. Mueller said he will continue to operate the Tempe call center, but move the north Phoenix employees to the new building at 27th Avenue and Camelback.

The employees that will be moved to that facility will include those who serve GCU’s online students, including enrollment counselors, academic counselors, technical support and back-office functions.

“It’s not right on campus, but it’s close to campus,” Mueller said.
Todd Noel of Colliers International’s Phoenix office represented GCU in the sale. Will Strong, senior associate of Cushman & Wakefield Inc., represented Crown Realty & Development.

Strong said the industrial market continues to tighten in terms of buildings available for sale.

“The Metropolitan Phoenix industrial market fundamentals are starting to improve with 2.8 million square feet absorbed year-to-date, lack of supply and increasing values,” Strong said. “This ultimately became an opportunity for Crown to sell a well-located property at a good price.”

Rick Carpinelli, senior vice president of acquisition and development for Crown Realty & Development, said he has enjoyed working with GCU on this transaction.

“We are pleased that we could work with GCU on the purchase so they can further their expansion,” he said. “GCU is a great institution for our community and state. We look forward to seeing their expansion into our former property.”

Mueller said it’s better in the long run that GCU won’t expand to Massachusetts after all.

“There’s so much work for us to do here in Arizona and the Southwest,” he said.

Angela Gonzales covers health, biotech and education.
http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/n....html?page=all

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pbenjamin Oct 31, 2012 4:24 AM

I used to work there, from 1979 to some time in the 80's. Before it was the Swapmart it was Honeywell's Camelback Road Facility. I think before that it was some kind of discount department store.

HX_Guy Oct 31, 2012 6:00 PM

The Business Journal has an article with 10 views of Valley leaders and what and where they think the future for commercial and to a lesser degree, residential, is. Most of it is what you'd expect...along the Light Rail route and such, though Stanton is really talking up the Desert Ridge area. I thought he was more of a downtown guy?

http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/p...s-leaders.html

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Arquitect Oct 31, 2012 8:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HX_Guy (Post 5886267)
The Business Journal has an article with 10 views of Valley leaders and what and where they think the future for commercial and to a lesser degree, residential, is. Most of it is what you'd expect...along the Light Rail route and such, though Stanton is really talking up the Desert Ridge area. I thought he was more of a downtown guy?

http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/p...s-leaders.html

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I really like what Stanton is trying to do by keeping Phoenix as a major player in the biotech boom. And I agree with him that the future of our city is brighter if we can start generating more of those jobs. But shouldn't we finnish developing the downtown campus first.

I like the Desert Ridge area, but its main problem is that it doesn't have a great mass transit conection to the rest of the city. Hopefuly with this large biotech campus, the city plans to create either a LRT or BRT connection.

I also think it is great that business leaders are looking at the light rail corridor as a center for denser growth. Hopefuly this means that we will see more development coming up in the near future.

HooverDam Oct 31, 2012 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by HX_Guy (Post 5886267)
though Stanton is really talking up the Desert Ridge area. I thought he was more of a downtown guy?

He definitely is, but remember he's the Mayor of Phoenix, not the Mayor of Downtown. Phil Gordon got a lot of flack from the general public about seeming to only care about Downtown at the expense of the rest of the City, so maybe Stanton learned from that.

I think Downtown is still Stantons very top priority, but if there's a chance for some relatively easy and positive growth by Desert Ridge area, there's no reason not to capitalize on that as well.

phxSUNSfan Nov 1, 2012 1:02 AM

I wonder if these are ever going to happen:

http://www.metrowestdevelopment.com/mckinley.html

exit2lef Nov 1, 2012 1:46 AM

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Originally Posted by HooverDam (Post 5886689)
Phil Gordon got a lot of flack from the general public about seeming to only care about Downtown at the expense of the rest of the City, so maybe Stanton learned from that.

I agree, but it's funny Gordon was perceived that way since he supported the CityNorth debacle and Stanton did not. At least our current mayor is being smarter about what type of development he supports at the city's north end. Bioscience and technology linked to a prestigious name brand institution already up there probably make more sense than "a second Downtown" based on retail and home building.

PHXistheBEST Nov 1, 2012 5:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HooverDam (Post 5879021)
I don't know if its family thats behind the museum or if there's some kind of Goldwater history group or what exactly. Umass-Boston donated land to build the JFK museum, that sort of thing is common with these kinds of museums. Unfortunately Barry didn't go to college, so there's not a natural fit w/ a college that would necessarily donate land. PHX would make some sense since like I said he was a Councilman here.

But its unfortunate that whoever is behind the library didn't see the upside of making it part of a multi-use development. It would've been cool as a ground floor space of an ASU Downtown building or something.

Yea, that is common logic...blame the museum instead of the city.:tup:

HooverDam Nov 2, 2012 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PHXistheBEST (Post 5887084)
Yea, that is common logic...blame the museum instead of the city.:tup:

Please stop posting, you're beyond trolling at this point.

nickw252 Nov 2, 2012 1:58 AM

County Sheriff's Office Construction. Poor pictures because I was looking into the sun and it is partially blocked by the fence.

http://i45.tinypic.com/2q22t09.jpg

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nickw252 Nov 2, 2012 2:07 AM

Since we've been discussing it - here is a picture of the Lofts at McKinley completed and landscaped.

http://i48.tinypic.com/545eg.jpg

SunDevil Nov 2, 2012 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PHXistheBEST (Post 5887084)
Yea, that is common logic...blame the museum instead of the city.:tup:

It was the city's land no? Are you saying, contra to everything you've said before, that the property owner has no right to choose what to do with its property?

Leo the Dog Nov 2, 2012 5:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nickw252 (Post 5887787)
Since we've been discussing it - here is a picture of the Lofts at McKinley completed and landscaped.

Thanks for the update/pic! These are a great addition to DT. They look awesome.


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