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A wealth of imformation! Thanks for the help with the Goodhue photograph HossC and odinthor. I appreciate it. :)





I could use some help with this photograph as well.... I'm pretty sure we haven't seen it on NLA.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/nH9dd0.jpg
(1950)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/10zsWl.jpg
A. M. Payne




Here's a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/hkDB64.jpg
eBay



Help! :whip:
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Before I put my whip back in the closet here's another mystery photograph.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/5NeApy.jpg
ABESBOOKS


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/LMfGKC.jpg



And my specialty. .a closer look. :)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/inYpOG.jpg

Wow!...I would have never guessed Brentwood.


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Is it too much if I post one more mystery location today?

I thought not.



We have seen similiar photographs on NLA but there's a possibility this is a newbie.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/yQtDlZ.jpg
ABESBOOKS







https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Rjt7IH.jpg
ABESBOOKS




The reverse.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/k1IkVX.jpg

I forgot who translated the last German language info. I hope I thanked you because I need your help again. :D

That's all I have for today, folks...Enjoy!
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The white building on the right is Sears. Here's one of my earlier posts on the area from 2014. The full post with streetcar loop photos is here.

Translation from E_R's above post:

May 28, 1929

Oil wells as adornment on the streets of Los Angeles, California

An unusual phenomenon are oil towers, which the people of Los Angeles have set up as ornaments in fields and gardens.

Picture shows: A street in which houses are surrounded by oil towers, and these form a strange sight.

Hmmm, e_r . . . Does that street sign say "Curtis St."?

https://i.postimg.cc/mDPZ8bhh/Curtis-Her-1919-11-28.jpg
LA Herald, 11/28/1919

https://i.postimg.cc/1zty39GM/Curtis-Bekins001.jpg
Bekins map, 1904 edition

Long gone, say you? No, a bit is left:

https://i.postimg.cc/7hv490pQ/Curtis-West-gsv.jpg
gsv

Mystery Brentwood (?) Mansion
 

A huge hillside mansion in Brentwood in 1903? Seems unlikely & hard to believe, BUT the Sawtelle Veterans Home dated from the 1880's & would not have been too far away from what is now "Brentwood Park." Eagerly awaiting enlightenment.

:previous:

Could it be 1913 rather than 1903?

https://i.postimg.cc/MTh5NHQ9/Brentw...-1913-5-31.jpg
LA Herald, 5/31/1913

:shrug:

Fascinating. Very impressive that you found such an obscure item, Odinthor. Thank you. Still, the woman in the photo looks more 1903 than 1913 to me - but I'm not an expert on fashions of that period. I looked up "Regent Square" on a real estate website & it refers to the area bounded by Montana, San Vicente, 17th and 21st Streets in Santa Monica - I don't think there are any prominent hillsides there (I lived in the area - 17th & Margarita - in the 70's.). Still, there is that reference to Tudor architecture and also a King Gillette property in "Brentwood." Hmmm...

AbeBooks

Original Photograph, Image 4 5/8" X 3 1/2". Annotated On Rear With Location, Etc.; The Writer, Paul Borgfeld, Was The Son Of William C. Borgfeld, Who Worked On Construction Of The Residence As A Master Carpenter And Later Became An Architect.

(My current avatar is Borgnine, not Borgfeld.)

That looks a lot like the home built in 1906-07 by Fredrick Charlesworth Paulin:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...-_1024_pic.jpg


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...le_-_intro.jpg

(Both) December 12, 1920, Los Angeles Times @ Newspapers.com




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...LAT_1_of_2.jpg
https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...LAT_2_of_2.jpg

July 15, 1906, Los Angeles Times @ Newspapers.com


Here's an early sketch and description from the February 26, 1907, Los Angeles Times. The house looked a bit different as-built:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag..._-_drawing.jpg

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...escription.jpg

Newspapers.com


Euclid Avenue and Grand Boulevard in Brentwood Park (circled in yellow below) is now I believe Hanover Street and S. Bristol Avenue.
I'd guess the Paulin home was on the NW corner. Here's the area on a 1910 map, with 26th Street running along the left edge and
San Vicente diagonally across the bottom half:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...024_marked.jpg

Santa Monica Public Library


Mr. Paulin died at his Brentwood Park home, age 54, on October 26, 1915.

The above property is curious.

The home that's on the corner that could be similar from Google satellite view was purportedly built in 1958 and renovated in 1990.

It's possible the original home from the turn of the century was simply replaced after 50 years.

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Angele...9/home/8180102

:shrug:

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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/l9ooJB.jpg
detail / complete photograph, here

Excellent discovery, odinthor! :worship:

And thanks for the translation, Martin Paul. . .much appreciated.





Did anyone else notice the giant wrist watch lying on the ground?
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And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention the lady's purse on the corner.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/08R6jC.jpg


What do you think it really is?... :shrug:



Complete photograph, here.
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Looking at the views on Historic Aerials, the original house on that plot was at the back corner of the plot while the current house is much closer to the road. The change occurs between the 1952 and 1964 images, which ties in with the 1958 build date of the current house.

The progress of Los Angeles in figures, July 1921
 

For those of you who like their LA facts and figures, I found this on the inside back cover of a "Los Angeles Today" booster booklet from 1921. I've never heard of the expression "Post Office Business" but check out the jump in building permits from 1919 to 1920!

https://martinturnbull.com/wp-conten...-July-1921.jpg

Brentwood Tudor Mansion
 

You nailed it, FlyingWedge. Thank you! Interesting that streets & residential lots in Brentwood were already so thoroughly planned & laid out by 1910.

That is Vineyard Junction of the Pacific Electric. The tracks diverging to the left are for the Venice Short Line, which traveled down Venice Blvd to Venice (duh) and continued on to Santa Monica, IIRC. The tracks heading straight went onto San Vicente Blvd into Beverly Hills, then down Santa Monica Blvd to Santa Monica. What is not shown is the loop for the Los Angeles Railway P line, which was off to the right. This is an approximate modern view

Google Street View

Thanks, HossC. As always I appreciate your help.



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/HuIZsH.jpg

I couldn't help but notice that Sears' overflow parking lot is still dirt in this photograph (despite the modern lighting fixture)


Excellent information, transitfan. Thank you. :)

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https://media.tenor.com/8vcRacLMlggA...ll-painful.gif
Tenor

Don't you hate it when that happens?

That's the signpost up ahead - your next stop, the Twilight Zone!

Up until maybe 10 years ago, the old sears building was still there. The green modern fixtures you mentioned were all in working order (except near the Garden center/bus loop). I tried to buy a few of the fixtures when the building went through an upgrade, but they weren't for sale. The parking lot you mentioned was paved eventually, and it was usually for staff parking and i want to say you entered off of West Blvd. The last business that i remember operating out of the old building was "Builders Discount" and that was around 2002.

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Ya'll probably get tired of me thanking everyone but I haved one more BIG THANK YOU to give.

And that THANKS goes to Flyingwedge for solving the Tudor house mystery!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/inYpOG.jpg

You da man....:worship:

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Here's another truly amazing cabinet card currently listed on eBay


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/BlGJuD.jpg
eBay

"B. Blake's Residence,...Cor. Pearl Ave. and Bellevue Place,...Los Angeles, Cal."

Now if I could only find the corner of Pearl Ave. and Bellevue Place. :shrug:

And who's this B. Blake?



P.S. If you look closely there are fourteen people in the photograph!
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A mystery bungalow.

Is anyone familiar with a Leoti Ave?


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/FYzlJ0.jpg
eBay

"The West Bungalow...2002 Leoti Ave....Los Angeles..1907"


I wasn't able to find Leoti Avenue but I did find a wisp of street named West Leoti Terrace. (note the Storer House)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/5Ktq4X.jpg
google maps




Wouldn't it be something if the bungalow in the photo was torn down to make way for Frank Lloyd Wright's Storer House. (built 1923)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/BfWVPn.jpg


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Could they have meant Pearl Street? The photo below is circa 1905.

View of residences on Pearl Street and Bellevue Place. Pearl became Figueroa Street, and Bellevue was a short street from Pearl to Beaudry between 5th and 6th Streets.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...lBellevue1.jpg
LAPL

Truly amazing indeed!
 

Thanks for another great find, e_r . . . . I think the ebay photo is an early shot of the Bellevue Terrace Hotel at 6th and
Pearl/Figueroa, before the other two buildings were constructed. Compare the ebay photo to the building below on the left
(minus the hat, dormers, and long 1st floor porch); the buildings' shapes match, as do the number and position of second-
floor windows, the horizontal and vertical lines below those windows, the front porch, the chimney top, and the roof edge:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...USC_-_Copy.jpg

Bellevue Terrace Hotel -- CHS-31129 @ USC Digital Library


The 1888 Sanborn Map shows 6th Street ended at Pearl (see lower right corner). After a slight jog across Pearl, Bellevue Place began:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...ue_Terrace.jpg

ProQuest via LA Public Library


The building in the ebay photo was apparently planned in 1882, completed in 1883, and turned into a boarding house by 1884:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag..._and_Pearl.jpg

July 26, 1882, Los Angeles Times @ Newspapers.com



https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag..._Directory.jpg

1883-84 Los Angeles City and County Directory @ fold3.com



https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...DJ_Whipple.jpg

November 13, 1884, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LA Public Library


This article says that after Mr. Blake leased his home at 6th and Pearl (the home in the ebay photo and on the left in the
above USC photo) to Mrs. Whipple (see ad above), he built the second, or middle, of the three buildings that would
comprise the Bellevue Terrace Hotel:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...ilt_-_Copy.jpg

January 31, 1886, Los Angeles Herald @ Newspapers.com


And then Mr. Blake started the third and largest building (on the right in the above USC photo):

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...rl_and_6th.jpg

March 23, 1886, Los Angeles Herald @ Newspapers.com


Unfortunately, Mr. Blake -- Barnum Blake -- met a sad end:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...ue_Terrace.jpg

December 1, 1889, Los Angeles Times @ Newspapers.com



We've seen the Bellevue Terrace many times, including t2's post in 2015.

Hmm, Pearl Street... I just had to look it up.

The Pulchritude of Pearl Street: the Cesspool of the 1890s and the Clean-Up in the 1990s; or a Tale of Two Figueroa Streets

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8mLmF7_jm...2Bon%2Bmap.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nnUZbfspx...2Bon%2BMap.jpg

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e_r,

https://i.postimg.cc/rwH8Dj8H/Leoti-1913-CD.jpg
1913 CD

Runs south from the middle of the south line of the Rosedale Cemetery acreage.

In its Leoti era, it had some interesting times--fires, violent footpads, etc. Two miscellaneous examples:

https://i.postimg.cc/RVqyWBNM/Leoti-Her-1902-2-28.jpg
LA Herald, 2/28/1802

https://i.postimg.cc/tgGMvnDT/Leoti-LAT-1911-8-14.jpg
LA Times, 8/14/1911

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Aha! So Leoti Avenue did exist!!

Thanks, odinthor. :)

If the Tudor mansion was indeed at 249 S. Bristol (NW corner of Bristol and Hanover) it was owned by John Schumacher, the founder of Southwestern University (the law school that's now located inside of Bullocks Wilshire). He died in 1944 and the furnished home was on the market for at least 4 years and marked down before selling to a developer who built the current home there in 1957.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...050eb172_z.jpg
LAT9/19/44
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...2fd92fe5_w.jpg
LAT11/9/52
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...1c15fa63_n.jpg
LAT1/31/54
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3fd83b9bdf.jpg
LAT 3/25/56
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...5b9fcbbd_b.jpg
Demolition permit 3/29/56

Here is Center Sinai Animal Hospital in WLA (Venice Blvd. at Selby) where my folks took the family dogs more than 40 years ago.
I looked at the building (while sitting at a red light this morning) and noticed the second floor appears to be an old Venice Bl front home that the first floor of the hospital was built around.

Does anyone have a photo of the home as it originally stood?

I call upon the super-sleuths of this thread to produce quick results!
:superwhip

Thank you. :)

https://larry.wizegallery.com/VWV/animal.png
(GSV, hosted by me)

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Does anyone remember a Betsy Ross Bread brand?

Here's a snapshot currently on eBay of a delivery driver posing in front a small cash grocery.

"Hal Haskurs (?) L.A. Cal. '21."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/71WqAc.jpg
eBay


When I did a quick NLA search I happened upon - and was reminded of - the Betsy Ross (diner?) across from Grauman's Chinese Theater. Go here to see it.


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It was a nationwide brand. It appears to have been kind of a franchise arrangement, where local bakeries would use the recipe and get the national advertising. I remember it as a pretty good sandwich bread, sold at our local Safeway in the SF Bay Area.

Cheers,

Earl

:previous:

Hal Haskins is Harold O. Haskins:

https://i.postimg.cc/ryr4WVYg/Haskins-1921-CD.jpg
1921 CD

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Haskins, not Haskurs. :doh:

Thanks for the clarification, odinthor.

"21" is now 90021 which is the "Wholesale District"... :shrug:

I took '21 to mean 1921.

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"A boy stands on a lawn in front of Quayle properties on Griffin Avenue between Manitou and Baldwin streets, Los Angeles, 1930."

I haven't checked to see if the houses are still standing.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/6eWmna.jpg
ucla archives

I realize boys used to wear beanies back in the day (think Jughead) but this boy's hat is a bit different. I wonder if he was in some kind of neighborhood club. . .or just stylish. :)

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Really? The 'fascist' hat caught your attention? Not the petal sleeves or kimono leg overalls? :shrug:

2247 Griffin Avenue has some resemblance to the house directly behind the little boy or the one next to it at what is now 2251 Griffin.

:previous:


The houses behind the young boy are still there.

From right to left - 2226, 2226½ and 2230 Griffin Avenue.


https://i.imgur.com/cO16Eto.jpg
GSV (clearest view from 2012)

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:previous: Thanks, Noir Lady and Noir Noir... The houses appear to be in tip top shape. That's a nice surprise. :)


There appears to be a 2nd photograph of the young whipper-snapper.

"Boy stands next to the West's house at 2223 Griffin Avenue, Los Angeles, about 1932."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/2R4acM.jpg
ucla archive

Another interesting outfit.

The "West" mentioned is H. H. (Henry Hebard) West... 1875 - 1958


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From the same archive.


"Ace Reliance Electric Service Co., former location, where H. H. West. Jr. had worked, Los Angeles, 1940."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/1oiJo0.jpg
ucla archive

Archive description.

View of the facade of a 2-story commercial building with a house and cafe on the left.

Text from negative sleeve: 1970. Los Angeles, California. Ace Reliance Electric Service Co. 1645 West Vernon Av. Taken August 11, 1940. The firm had sold out, and the sign board over the door was painted white ready for the sign of the new tenant. At this place Henry H. West, Jr. had his first job - a handy man, delivery boy, pick up truck driver, etc. 1. The left hand down stairs room of the 2-story building.


If I were to guess, I'd say H. H. West Jr. is the boy's father.

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:previous:

e_r, it appears that all the buildings are survivors, the cute little house faring much the best:

https://i.postimg.cc/7Ykj6BfK/1645-WVernon.jpg
gsv

Re: the H.H. West photos at UCLA, we covered some of his work several years back....

https://www.skyscraperpage.com/forum...st#post7740818

At that time the broad collection was not available online, pleased to see that the library has posted many additional images....it's a great collection.

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Holy Toledo! Take a look at this exquisite cabinet/boudoir card just listed on eBay


"Antique Boudoir Cabinet Photo 1896 Los Angeles Victorian Home Being Moved."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/FGDwA5.jpg
eBay



Reverse.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/DxK4Es.jpg



For easier reading.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/9QAbnH.jpg



X marks the spot.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/pbT9e0.jpg

If you look again at the photograph you'll see that Ivor was a young boy at the time.

My kingdom to anyone who identifies the house. :pimpdaddy:





for search purposes: e.e. owens - los angeles 1896...x is ivor owens

Your whip was a strong motivator, Lwize, but I'm afraid the best I could do is the 1950 Sanborn Map, with the
NEC of Venice and Selby (formerly Malcolm) at bottom center:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...and_Venice.jpg

ProQuest via LA Public Library


The two-story building at the NEC of Venice and Selby had its beginnings here, with the ground floor perhaps an
addition to the store next door (note how the interiors seem connected in the Sanborn map above):

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...s_at_10737.jpg

Sep 7, 1940, Venice Evening Vanguard @ Newspapers.com


Mr. Rathburn seems to have been a bit of a character:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...gest_store.jpg

May 16, 1940, Venice Evening Vanguard @ Newspapers.com


Here is the August 23, 1940, building permit for the two-story stucco structure:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...ice_-_Copy.jpg

LA Department of Building and Safety


This is Rathburn's original store at 10733/35 Venice on June 18, 1934 (Overland is at the right edge of the image).
I wonder if the one-story, eastern half of today's 10737 Venice is what we see here -- or the front of it, anyway:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...060_FR_100.jpg

UCSB (Flight c-3060, Frame 100)


Here is 10733 Venice on the 1929 Sanborn Map:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...and_Venice.jpg

ProQuest via LA Public Library


I believe Mr. Rathburn had started his store by 1929:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...733_Venice.jpg

May 7, 1929, Los Angeles Evening Express @ Newspapers.com

A few vague "clews":


https://i.postimg.cc/4y8WLS25/nlaowe...41x120-bmp.jpg
1894 LACD


https://i.postimg.cc/R0VQ8Rfp/nlaowens2-722x123-bmp.jpg
LA Herald Oct 1, 1896

Peru Street became Griffith Avenue by the summer of 1897. If you google-drive on 17th between San Pedro and Griffith today, you will find freeway on the north side and a few Victorian residential remnants in the 800 block.


https://i.postimg.cc/dtcq9ScF/nlaowens3-627x312-bmp.jpg
LA Herald March 14, 1896

Apparently another house moved by Malby in 1896 led to trouble. It seems that Yates lived at 612 S Los Angeles St.

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The seller has another one on eBay!


Is this the same house?


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/DytIJq.jpg
eBay


Reverse
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/tHgLJJ.jpg


I'm speechless. (almost)

Did ya'll notice the man on the roof?

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