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The houses behind the young boy are still there. From right to left - 2226, 2226½ and 2230 Griffin Avenue. https://i.imgur.com/cO16Eto.jpg GSV (clearest view from 2012) |
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:previous: Thanks, Noir Lady and Noir Noir... The houses appear to be in tip top shape. That's a nice surprise. :) There appears to be a 2nd photograph of the young whipper-snapper. "Boy stands next to the West's house at 2223 Griffin Avenue, Los Angeles, about 1932." https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/2R4acM.jpg ucla archive Another interesting outfit. The "West" mentioned is H. H. (Henry Hebard) West... 1875 - 1958 . |
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From the same archive. "Ace Reliance Electric Service Co., former location, where H. H. West. Jr. had worked, Los Angeles, 1940." https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/1oiJo0.jpg ucla archive Archive description. View of the facade of a 2-story commercial building with a house and cafe on the left. Text from negative sleeve: 1970. Los Angeles, California. Ace Reliance Electric Service Co. 1645 West Vernon Av. Taken August 11, 1940. The firm had sold out, and the sign board over the door was painted white ready for the sign of the new tenant. At this place Henry H. West, Jr. had his first job - a handy man, delivery boy, pick up truck driver, etc. 1. The left hand down stairs room of the 2-story building. If I were to guess, I'd say H. H. West Jr. is the boy's father. . |
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e_r, it appears that all the buildings are survivors, the cute little house faring much the best: https://i.postimg.cc/7Ykj6BfK/1645-WVernon.jpg gsv |
Re: the H.H. West photos at UCLA, we covered some of his work several years back....
https://www.skyscraperpage.com/forum...st#post7740818 At that time the broad collection was not available online, pleased to see that the library has posted many additional images....it's a great collection. |
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Holy Toledo! Take a look at this exquisite cabinet/boudoir card just listed on eBay "Antique Boudoir Cabinet Photo 1896 Los Angeles Victorian Home Being Moved." https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/FGDwA5.jpg eBay Reverse. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/DxK4Es.jpg For easier reading. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/9QAbnH.jpg X marks the spot. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/pbT9e0.jpg If you look again at the photograph you'll see that Ivor was a young boy at the time. My kingdom to anyone who identifies the house. :pimpdaddy: for search purposes: e.e. owens - los angeles 1896...x is ivor owens |
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Your whip was a strong motivator, Lwize, but I'm afraid the best I could do is the 1950 Sanborn Map, with the NEC of Venice and Selby (formerly Malcolm) at bottom center: https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...and_Venice.jpg ProQuest via LA Public Library The two-story building at the NEC of Venice and Selby had its beginnings here, with the ground floor perhaps an addition to the store next door (note how the interiors seem connected in the Sanborn map above): https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...s_at_10737.jpg Sep 7, 1940, Venice Evening Vanguard @ Newspapers.com Mr. Rathburn seems to have been a bit of a character: https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...gest_store.jpg May 16, 1940, Venice Evening Vanguard @ Newspapers.com Here is the August 23, 1940, building permit for the two-story stucco structure: https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...ice_-_Copy.jpg LA Department of Building and Safety This is Rathburn's original store at 10733/35 Venice on June 18, 1934 (Overland is at the right edge of the image). I wonder if the one-story, eastern half of today's 10737 Venice is what we see here -- or the front of it, anyway: https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...060_FR_100.jpg UCSB (Flight c-3060, Frame 100) Here is 10733 Venice on the 1929 Sanborn Map: https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...and_Venice.jpg ProQuest via LA Public Library I believe Mr. Rathburn had started his store by 1929: https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...733_Venice.jpg May 7, 1929, Los Angeles Evening Express @ Newspapers.com |
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A few vague "clews": https://i.postimg.cc/4y8WLS25/nlaowe...41x120-bmp.jpg 1894 LACD https://i.postimg.cc/R0VQ8Rfp/nlaowens2-722x123-bmp.jpg LA Herald Oct 1, 1896 Peru Street became Griffith Avenue by the summer of 1897. If you google-drive on 17th between San Pedro and Griffith today, you will find freeway on the north side and a few Victorian residential remnants in the 800 block. https://i.postimg.cc/dtcq9ScF/nlaowens3-627x312-bmp.jpg LA Herald March 14, 1896 Apparently another house moved by Malby in 1896 led to trouble. It seems that Yates lived at 612 S Los Angeles St. |
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:previous: The seller has another one on eBay! Is this the same house? https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/DytIJq.jpg eBay Reverse https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/tHgLJJ.jpg I'm speechless. (almost) Did ya'll notice the man on the roof? . |
There's an interesting article in the Los Angeles Times about the "singular L.A. landmarks and institutions [that] made their debuts in the year 1923."
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...al-los-angeles I enjoyed this colorful postcard within the article and this sentence that made me chuckle: The Hollywood sign, like the city at its feet, rambles horizontally, across 400 feet of hillside, its letters at slightly irregular levels. If they were a starlet’s teeth, they would long since have been straightened out by studio dentists. https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/d...sson-06-fo.jpg Also debuting yesterday on Hollywood Blvd. in 2023: Taco Bell Opens Cantina Restaurant Experience with Historic 1920s Hollywood Flare https://abc7.com/taco-bell-cantina-h...tada/12826512/ |
ANOTHER WESTSIDE MYSTERY HOUSE
https://i.postimg.cc/3x61TJkm/vhsmysteryhouse-bmp.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/7Zvb8Fxb/vhscap-1366x768-bmp.jpg The Venice Historical Society wants to solve a mystery, and I thought the sleuths at NLA might have be able to do it. The caption reads "Dolce Casa: Home of Mr. and Mrs. John F. Humphreys near Venice, California October 1, 1916" https://i.postimg.cc/s2Fr2WxJ/vhsphoto2-737x643-bmp.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Qd1z0yNp/vhsphoto3-740x654-bmp.jpg Someone on the VHS's facebook page has already found this clew, which looks like it came from Southwest Builder & Contractor or the like: https://i.postimg.cc/RZ7PcJGd/vhsitem-640x347-bmp.jpg |
Venice Evening Vanguard for 22 Jan 1915 has a story of the marriage of Harriet Humphreys, daughter of John F., in their "typical old Spanish home" on Pico Blvd. in Venice.
A 19 Feb 1915 story in LATimes society page has someone visiting the Humphreys at their home on Pico Blvd, "opposite Polytechnic station on the Venice short line." FWIW. Cheers, Earl |
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https://i.postimg.cc/nh62ktNS/Frederick-Station.jpg Touring Topics, V. 8, p. 9, 1916 |
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These listings from 1919-20 are in line with Earl Boebert's 1915 newspaper quotes. https://i.imgur.com/Uph2IfZ.jpg rescarta.lapl.org https://i.imgur.com/YdE22SS.jpg rescarta.lapl.org North side of Venice Blvd. close to Venice (Polytechnic) High School. This is an aerial of that area from 1928, twelve years on from the original picture. https://i.imgur.com/zfFqrO8.jpg mil.library.ucsb.edu Maybe the property I've circled. It appears to be the one with a large enclosed developed garden. Present day NW corner of Venice Blvd. and Beethoven St. :shrug: |
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Absolutely, Noir Noir--I think you nailed it down. Just for fun, here's the area at present, courtesy Google Maps: https://i.postimg.cc/bv6r54Wr/Beethoven.jpg Note Ferndale, the short street at left. It is interesting to compare with your aerial photo. Ferndale corresponds to what appears to be the front drive, up to the front of the house (Beethoven doesn't appear to have been "streetified" quite yet there). https://i.postimg.cc/Y9Z9rYpw/Beethoven3.jpg I had been gazing at one of e_r's original photos, and was wondering if in the distance we're seeing a canal. No, we're seeing Venice Blvd. and the tracks for the PE: https://i.postimg.cc/vHRBCrqr/Beethoven2.jpg They're on the terrace of the house which, sensibly, overlooks their planned garden plot (not yet much planted, it appears), with Venice Blvd. and the PE tracks beyond. :cheers: |
953 South Hope, probably end of June 1889
You've struck a rich vein with these cabinet cards, e_r!
I don't believe the chopped-up house in the other photo is the same as this one, which shows a house that has just been moved to the NWC of 10th and Hope from the NEC of Third and Broadway by Eugene Germain, after he'd bought it from attorney Jackson Graves. Please note the palm trees (the one at left is being planted) and, in the left background, the stable and little house to its right: Quote:
In this close-up from a Seaver Center photo we see the same house; the palm tree is planted and the rest of the landscaping is complete. The same stable and small house are in the background. Also, what we can see of the house to the right of the Graves/Germain home matches the cabinet card (if anyone heard a loud gasp a few days ago, that may have been me when I first saw this image): https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...rt_closeup.jpg P-010-0131 @ Seaver Center Here's the same photo from Graves' autobiography, My Seventy Years in California (1927), though the date has to be 1889 or shortly after, not 1888: https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...129_-_1024.tif Hathitrust The right edge of this view, dated 1888, shows the front of the Graves home when it was at the NEC of Third and Fort/Broadway: https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...way_-_1024.jpg BEHR-0072 at CA State Library It seems Graves, the Seaver Center, and whoever wrote on the back of the cabinet card all have the date wrong (Graves also misremembers the house being moved to Tenth and Hill). Here, the June 6, 1889, Los Angeles Times reports that Germain is preparing to move Graves' former home from Third and Fort/Broadway to Tenth and Hope: https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...e_-_larger.jpg ProQuest via LA Public Library The June 21, 1889, Los Angeles Herald wrote that, "One of the most notable residences in Los Angeles eight or nine years ago was that of J. A. Graves, Esq., on the corner of Fort and Third Streets. This house is now on wheels, and traveling down Hill Street, beyond Sixth, on its way to a new site . . . ." So if they were preparing to move the house on June 6, and it was at Sixth and Hill on June 21, I'd say the end of June 1889 would be a decent guess at the cabinet card's date. And here's 953 S. Hope at lower right on the 1894 Sanborn Map, which mostly agrees with the photos: https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...st_-_small.jpg Library of Congress 1891 Los Angeles City Directory: https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...953_S_Hope.jpg fold3.com Oh yeah almost forgot -- there are photos of the Graves/Germain house in both locations in this Homestead Museum blog article. |
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FANTASTIC sleuthing, odinthor, Noir_Noir, and Flyingwedge! |
In 1889, are they using a team of horses to move the house?
Steam tractors? Alien tech? |
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Levitation. |
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