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NYC4Life Nov 16, 2012 6:36 PM

Port Authority video released yesterday of the flooding from Hurricane Sandy on its PATH stations in Hoboken and Exchange Place:


Video Link

NYC4Life Nov 16, 2012 6:38 PM

Hurricane Sandy Transit Update:

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...fic&id=8873270

LIRR

The LIRR is running limited weekday service on the Long Beach branch, with hourly trains during peak periods and every two hours during the off-peak, between 4:58 a.m. and 8:58 p.m. The LIRR is operating diesel train shuttle service between Long Beach and Lynbrook, making all stops. It's a 20 minute ride.

Nineteen of the LIRR's 143 morning rush hour trains will be canceled or diverted to another terminal. In the evening peak period, 23 evening rush hour trains will be canceled. Visit MTA.info/LIRR for a complete list of the changes.

PATH

PATH is operating limited rail service between 5 a.m. and 10 p.m, from Newark to 33rd Street in Manhattan.

Stops include Newark-Penn Station, Harrison, Journal Square, Grove Street, Newport, 9 Street (exit only between 5 a.m. and 9:30 a.m.), 14 Street, 23 Street and 33 Street.

PATH service to the WTC station should be back by the end of the month. That service will be Newark to WTC only. There is currently no date for the reopening of the PATH station in Hoboken. The PATH station at Christopher Street in Greenwich Village will reopen this weekend. It will only be open on weekends for now, to help reduce crowding.

Click to see some amazing video of the flooding: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afe2T...ature=youtu.be

NJ TRANSIT

Northeast Corridor Line: Trains operating on a modified schedule with limited express service. The Jersey Avenue Station is closed until further notice. Customers can also use emergency bus shuttle service at Metropark Station.

North Jersey Coast Line: Service remains suspended until further notice. Customers can use emergency bus shuttle service at the PNC Bank Arts Center in Holmdel or at Aberdeen-Matawan Station.

Raritan Valley Line: Trains are operating on a modified schedule between Raritan and Newark with limited peak-period service between High Bridge and Newark. Train 5503 (the last train of the night) departd Newark 20 minutes later to allow for last train connection with the Northeast Corridor leaving New York.

Montclair-Boonton Line: Service has been restored between Hackettstown and Hoboken/New York on a modified schedule. Eastbound service (to Hoboken/New York) will operate approximately once an hour until noon. After 12 p.m., limited service will operate to New York only. Limited westbound service (from New York/Hoboken) will be available before 1 p.m. After 1 p.m., westbound service will operate every 60-90 minutes. Customers can use emergency bus shuttle service at Bay Street, Glen Ridge and Bloomfield stations.

Morris & Essex Line: Midtown Direct service on the Morristown Line between Dover/Summit and New York is operating on a modified schedule. Customers can also use emergency bus shuttle service at Morristown, Convent, Madison, Chatham and Maplewood stations. There is no Morristown Line service to/from Hoboken due to extensive damage in Kearny that has made the tracks impassable.

Gladstone Branch service remains suspendeduntil further notice due to storm related damage.

Main/Bergen County/Port Jervis Lines: Trains are operating on a modified schedule. Trains will begin stopping at Secaucus this weekend. Customers can also use emergency bus shuttle service at Ramsey-Route 17 Station or from MetLife Stadium's Lots J and K.

Pascack Valley Line: Trains are operating on a modified schedule. Trains will begin stopping at Secaucus this weekend.

Atlantic City Rail Line: Regular schedules are in effect.

METRO-NORTH

On the Port Jervis Line: full-day weekday train service is restored to/from Hoboken (no stops at Secaucus). On the Pascack Valley Line: Llimited Weekday train service is restored to/from Hoboken (no stops at Secaucus).

NYC MTA

The Queens-Midtown Tunnel reopened to truck traffic Friday morning. As for the Hugh L. Carey Tunnel (formerly the Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel), one tube is open to cars and buses into Manhattan from 6 a.m. to 10 a.m. and into Brooklyn from 3 p.m. to 7 p.m. Trucks are not allowed.

Some limited service remains in effect following Sandy. Visit MTA.info for the latest changes.

Temporary ferry service is operating between the Rockaways and Manhattan while subway service on that route is suspended. Ferries will depart from Beach 108th Street and Beach Channel Drive, where the Economic Development Corporation has been working to install a temporary landing, and stop at Pier 11 in Lower Manhattan with free transfers between Pier 11 and East 34th Street in Midtown. The service will start at 5:45 a.m. in the Rockaways with ferries departing for Manhattan regularly until 9:20 a.m., with regular service resuming during the evening rush. One-way fares will be $2.

For MTA travel information, check MTA.info online or phone 511.

mrnyc Nov 25, 2012 6:57 PM

#7 subway train extension progress -- as of this morning:

this is the south end -- where the boring machine went in

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permits! have me got permits!!! :banana:
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air vents n stuff -- on the north end
across from the javits convention center
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these are from a couple weeks ago
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J. Will Dec 3, 2012 8:05 PM

Why New York City has a second-tier bus system

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/articl...ier-bus-system

Quote:

New York City does in fact have a version of bus rapid transit. It’s called “Select Bus Service.”

But select bus service is so lacking in the accoutrements typically associated with bus rapid transit that some transit experts argue it doesn’t even merit the label.

It has no truly separated bus lanes, or elevated boarding platforms. It has off-board fare collection in places, but not universally. Its "dedicated" bus lanes are only dedicated in theory, demarcated by a frequently ignored terra-cotta-colored paint. Other vehicles routinely infringe upon them, and when those vehicles are making right turns, they actually have to.

SBS buses move through the city’s grid more quickly than ordinary buses, but not that much more quickly.

In 2011, the Institute for Transportation and Development Policy issued a report called “Recapturing Global Leadership in Bus Rapid Transit,” in which the authors came up with a way to grade the robustness of a bus rapid transit system based on its inclusion of elements like off-board payment, connectivity, right-of-way enforcement, separated lanes, elevated boarding platforms, and so on.

The top score was 100. The Institute gave New York City’s system a failing grade of 35 and called it, stingingly, “not BRT.”

The city and M.T.A., says Giles, can do “much, much more.”

yankeesfan1000 Dec 5, 2012 11:21 PM

UPDATED: Tappan Zee Constructors wins selection panel recommendation

http://cmsimg.thejournalnews.com/app...recommendation
"The three proposed designs for a new Tappan Zee Bridge. Proposal 1 is at top, Proposal 2 in the middle and Proposal 3 at bottom. The state didn't release the names of the companies that made each design. The construction time for each proposal was about five years. The state's selection committee recommended proposal #1."

"... The state Thruway Authority on Wednesday released three designs that are competing to build a new bridge, but did not identify each team’s proposal. All three came in more than than $1 billion under the initial price tag of $5.2 billion, ranging from $3.1 billion to $4 billion...

...The winning project will be selected by the state Thruway Authority on Dec. 17...."

Inkoumori Dec 6, 2012 12:41 AM

A selection committee has recommended a futuristic design for the new Tappan Zee Bridge, with suspension supports leaning outwards, giving the bridge the look of a stripped-down building by Santiago Calatrava.

http://transportationnation.org/wp-c...t_Dec-2012.png

http://transportationnation.org/2012...sign-released/

aquablue Dec 6, 2012 3:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inkoumori (Post 5926773)
A selection committee has recommended a futuristic design for the new Tappan Zee Bridge, with suspension supports leaning outwards, giving the bridge the look of a stripped-down building by Santiago Calatrava.

http://transportationnation.org/wp-c...t_Dec-2012.png

http://transportationnation.org/2012...sign-released/

Very nice!:cheers:

Busy Bee Dec 6, 2012 3:51 PM

Great! Now that they're all a billion dollars cheaper, there's no more excuse for not including a rail element.

NYC4Life Dec 6, 2012 8:46 PM

3:11 PM
MTA Releases Video Of Progress On 7 Line Extension
By: NY1 News

http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stori...line-extension

Quote:

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority has released new video of workers' progress on the extension of the 7 subway line on Manhattan's West Side.

The 7 line is being extended 34th Street and 11th Avenue in Midtown, where it will connect to the Hudson Yards.

The agency says work is well underway on two ventilation buildings and the upper and lower mezzanines are taking shape.

The station will feature the system's first ever incline elevator, which will transport New Yorkers between the upper and lower levels.

The new station is expected to open in June 2014 and MTA officials expects it to be the most heavily used station by 2020.

© 1999-2012 NY1 News and Time Warner Cable Inc. All Rights Reserved.

M II A II R II K Dec 12, 2012 10:59 PM

No Seoul-style platform doors for New York subways, even in new stations

Read More: http://www.capitalnewyork.com/articl...n-new-stations

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It's called a platform screen door, and some transit experts say they can't understand why the M.T.A. has no plans to install any, even in the new stations being built on the Second Avenue line or the 7-train extension.

- "You know, that was a disappointment," Richard Barone, the director of transportation programs for the Regional Plan Association, told me. "We were surprised that that wasn't going to be happening." There are already platform screens—glass walls that screen platforms from tracks with doors that open in sync with the subway's own—on the AirTrain. Seoul's Metro has them, and Paris has been installing them in its aging subway system. New York City's subway system has none.

- "The doors are really the solution to prevent [subway falls] from happening," said Barone, which will presumably be an ever-greater concern as crowding on platforms continues to increase. He also said they "prevent garbage and other debris from falling onto the tracks," preventing the fires that result when debris comes into contact with the electrified third rail. And by keeping trash off the tracks, they could reduce the costs of sending workers out every day to clear debris. Such screens could allow the M.T.A. to air-condition the platforms, as crazy as that sounds.

- "It is something that I strongly feel needs to be on the table," said Barone. "Especially in places that are high-traffic and high-volume and very congested." There are people at the M.T.A. who share Barone's enthusiasm for platform screens, among them, Tom Prendergast, the president of New York City Transit. "The primary reason is safety," he said earlier this year. "The second is environmental control and the third is to have a better means of getting the train into the station, doing the loading and unloading, and getting the train out of the station."

- But Prendergrast's boss, M.T.A. chairman Joe Lhota, is more equivocal on the matter. "They’re quite expensive and given the 496 stations, I think that’s the number, it’d be quite prohibitive,” he said in March. Installing them in the system's hundreds ofstations is one thing, but installing them in the handful of new ones the M.T.A. is in the process of building on Second Avenue and at the 7-train extension on the far west side is another.

- Barone argues that by installing them in the new stations, the M.T.A. would essentially create a pilot program and learn about the operational issues and benefits of the platform screens. In a statement, M.T.A. spokesman Aaron Donovan said, "Platform edge doors are not currently planned for the new stations on the Second Avenue Subway or the 7 extension. They would present operational challenges and incur long-term maintenance funding costs."

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http://www.capitalnewyork.com/files/...Screens400.jpg

aquablue Dec 12, 2012 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M II A II R II K (Post 5935723)
No Seoul-style platform doors for New York subways, even in new stations

Read More: http://www.capitalnewyork.com/articl...n-new-stations






http://www.capitalnewyork.com/files/...Screens400.jpg

God, NYC is so friggin backwards when it comes to transportation infrastructure... and so miserly as well which is uncalled for when public safety issues are at play. When can we get new management and leadership at MTA?:yuck:[/SIZE]

NYC4Life Dec 21, 2012 10:07 PM

UPDATED 3:01 PM
Straphangers Enjoy Fully Restored R Train Service
By: Roger Clark

http://www.ny1.com/content/transit/1...-train-service

Quote:

The R train is rolling once again between Manhattan and Brooklyn.

The R had been running in two sections since Hurricane Sandy when flood waters filled the Montague Tube connecting Brooklyn Heights and Lower Manhattan.

One portion had been running between 71st Avenue in Queens and Whitehall Street in Lower Manhattan, the other between Bay Ridge and Court Street in Downtown Brooklyn.

Officials say more than 27 million gallons of water had to be pumped out of the tunnel which serves the line used by an estimated 65,000 commuters daily.

Straphangers have had to find other ways to get across the East River, but are now breathing a sigh of relief.

"It's been hell taking this commute from Staten Island. I could be taking the ferry and taking the R train back to Brooklyn instead I've been commuting through the buses and it's been like an hour and a half to get home and it's been difficult," said one straphanger.

"I'm grateful because I had to transfer to another train taking the elevator and escalator up to the number 4 train, 2 train to get my destination so now it's just a straight ride," said another straphanger.

While enough has been done for the R to operate safely, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority says some temporary service suspensions will be necessary in the future to to make more permanent repairs to the line.

The R train restoration means the 1 train south of Rector Street and the A line to the Rockaways are the only parts of the subway system out of service because of the storm.


© 1999-2012 NY1 News and Time Warner Cable Inc. All Rights Reserved.

The North One Dec 22, 2012 5:00 PM

I REALLY love the middle design. Proposal one is boring as F&@K.

aquablue Dec 22, 2012 7:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The North One (Post 5947810)
I REALLY love the middle design. Proposal one is boring as F&@K.

The middle one is basically the usual suspension design you see everywhere, which makes it boring to me. I've never see design 1 in the USA.

The North One Dec 22, 2012 8:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aquablue (Post 5947939)
The middle one is basically the usual suspension design you see everywhere, which makes it boring to me. I've never see design 1 in the USA.

No its not, the cabels are connected directly to the towers, making it a cable stayed bridge. And its not like we don't see hundreds of variations of the design chosen either. Also theres alot less mess with the 2nd proposal as well.

aquablue Dec 28, 2012 10:38 PM

The Gov. of NY is actively trying to handicap the city of NY from expanding its transit, and perhaps ending any hope for a future JFK airport 1 seat ride to manhattan.

http://secondavenuesagas.com/2012/12...eens/#comments

Why is he deliberately trying to handicap his own city which desperately needs more transit links while appeasing the NIMBY's?. How shortsighted! He doesn't seem to get it.

Nexis4Jersey Dec 28, 2012 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aquablue (Post 5952640)
The Gov. of NY is actively trying to handicap the city of NY from expanding its transit, and perhaps ending any hope for a future JFK airport 1 seat ride to manhattan.

http://secondavenuesagas.com/2012/12...eens/#comments

Why is he deliberately trying to handicap his own city which desperately needs more transit links while appeasing the NIMBY's?. How shortsighted! He doesn't seem to get it.

Hes concerned about running for a higher office like Christie or Lahota....or Even Booker...

aquablue Dec 29, 2012 5:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey (Post 5952669)
Hes concerned about running for a higher office like Christie or Lahota....or Even Booker...

Pissing off a few people in queens will prevent him from this? I don't buy it.

This is ironic since he is the one who wanted to develop the race course. This line is probably the best way to get people from Manhattan to that location quickly and efficiently.

Inkoumori Dec 29, 2012 6:41 AM

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aquablue Dec 29, 2012 7:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inkoumori (Post 5952992)
I'm not sure what you mean by a "1 seat ride" to Manhattan? Airtrain does the airport loop and LIRR does the Manhattan (also Brooklyn) trip @ Jamaica. Plus the E, J, Z. :shrug:

You can also pick up the A at Howard Beach @ Airtrain.

It only takes a few minutes to get off those trains and get on the Airtrain to all the terminals, I do it quite often, it works well.

LIRR is direct from Jamaica to Penn or Atlantic.

It still isn't a 1 seat ride, like we see in NY's competing world cities (London, Paris, HK, Singapore, Tokyo, Shanghai etc, etc.) The connection at Jamaica is still a pain in the ass for everyone, visitors especially.

The Rockaway line would be a good option for a future JFK express train that would go right into the terminal area, also for commuters in queens.

Inkoumori Dec 29, 2012 7:14 AM

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aquablue Dec 29, 2012 8:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inkoumori (Post 5953013)
While JFK is lacking, I wouldn't say Heathrow or CDG are much better. Even Shanghai has its problems despite the mag-lev. I fly into CDG often and I wouldn't call it a "1 seat ride". It's a complicated issue which I feel JFK has dealt with well for now.;)



Heathrow not much better? The train goes right under the terminals and it is express right into the central station!!!

Paris has the RER into the center of the city from the airport station!

NY should improve this as the airtrain only handles a minute percentage of passengers going into the city as of now. Asking people to make a transfer is going to reduce the ridership by rail into the city as people don't want to think too much when arriving in a foreign city. Perhaps they want it that way (afraid of upsetting taxi lobby?), if so, how pathetic. Getting cars off the congested highways would be beneficial to everyone.

M II A II R II K Dec 30, 2012 11:16 PM

MTA To "Revisit" Installing Sliding Doors In Subway Stations

Read More: http://gothamist.com/2012/12/29/mta_..._sliding_d.php

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Based on the MTA's preliminary analysis, the challenge of installing platform edge barriers in the New York City subway system would be both expensive and extremely challenging given the varied station designs and the differences in door positions among some subway car classes.

But in light of recent tragic events, we will consider the options for testing such equipment on a limited basis. Of course, we remind customers of the overall safety of the subway system but urge them to stand well back from the platform edge and remain watchful of their surroundings.

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http://gothamist.com/attachments/bya...912sliding.jpg

J. Will Dec 31, 2012 8:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inkoumori (Post 5952992)
I'm not sure what you mean by a "1 seat ride" to Manhattan? Airtrain does the airport loop and LIRR does the Manhattan (also Brooklyn) trip @ Jamaica. Plus the E, J, Z. :shrug:

You can also pick up the A at Howard Beach @ Airtrain.

It only takes a few minutes to get off those trains and get on the Airtrain to all the terminals, I do it quite often, it works well.

LIRR is direct from Jamaica to Penn or Atlantic.

Do you not understand the term? One-seat ride means you sit down on some form of transportation at the airport terminal, and it takes you to Manhattan without a transfer. None of the three major NYC area airports offer a one-seat transit ride into Manhattan unless you count a slow bus route from Laguardia to Harlem.

VivaLFuego Dec 31, 2012 4:16 PM

Relatively speaking, JFK's connection to Manhattan is fine if a bit expensive, particularly connecting to the LIRR at Jamaica. The connection via the subway at Howard Beach is pretty painfully slow.

Maybe my travel habits and the airlines I generally fly (i.e. United/Star Alliance) give me a certain bias, but I've generally felt like the pick-your-poison painful transit options to LaGuardia is a bigger issue than JFK's access, at least since the construction of AirTrain.

aquablue Dec 31, 2012 4:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VivaLFuego (Post 5954488)
Relatively speaking, JFK's connection to Manhattan is fine if a bit expensive, particularly connecting to the LIRR at Jamaica. The connection via the subway at Howard Beach is pretty painfully slow.

Maybe my travel habits and the airlines I generally fly (i.e. United/Star Alliance) give me a certain bias, but I've generally felt like the pick-your-poison painful transit options to LaGuardia is a bigger issue than JFK's access, at least since the construction of AirTrain.

Yes, but after a long international flight, many would rather take a taxi than deal with a complicated transfer. Also, JFK is twice as busy as laguardia, not that it isn't pathetic that laguardia doesn't have some kind of rail access.

Inkoumori Jan 1, 2013 1:04 AM

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M II A II R II K Jan 1, 2013 1:13 AM

And you have the Picadilly Line available where you could work your way to Paddington anyway. And that's assuming that's where you want to go in the first place!

Inkoumori Jan 1, 2013 1:14 AM

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Inkoumori Jan 1, 2013 1:18 AM

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J. Will Jan 1, 2013 6:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inkoumori (Post 5954999)
Of course I understand, and however nice that term sounds it doesn't exactly explain the nuances of each system. LGA is of course a running joke for everyone in NYC so....

But I don't really find it that difficult to use EWR-Airtrain-NJ Transit or JFK-Airtrain-LIRR. The idea that it's such a hardship vs. LHR or CDG is overblown imho.

The issue wasn't whether or not you find any of these commutes to be a "hardship". You specifically said:

Quote:

I'm not sure what you mean by a "1 seat ride" to Manhattan?
That's what I was responding to. That statement suggests to me that you don't understand what the term "one seat ride" means. You actually said that you're not sure what he means by a one-seat ride. I don't know how else to interpret that statement other than that you don't understand the term.

Inkoumori Jan 1, 2013 6:59 AM

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J. Will Jan 1, 2013 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inkoumori (Post 5955181)
True "one seat ride" airports are few and pretty much exclusive only to small European or newly constructed airports in Asia.

No. Even Vancouver has a one-seat rail ride from the airport terminal to downtown. Toronto will soon as well. I took the train from Newark airport in June. The problem is that the NJT trains don't run at regular intervals. If they ran say every 10 or every 15 minutes all day it would be great. But sometimes there's a long wait between two trains, sometimes there's a short wait.

And quit being so damn sensitive to comments asking you to clarify your statements.

Inkoumori Jan 1, 2013 11:14 AM

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J. Will Jan 1, 2013 12:14 PM

LOL. I took your comments as you wrote them. To call that trolling is idiotic. Then again, look who I'm talking to. :haha::haha::haha:

You're lying when you suggest I was "trolling" you. You comments made it sound that you didn't understand a term, so I explained it to you. You need to stop being such a sensitive child. :haha:

jd3189 Jan 1, 2013 4:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M II A II R II K (Post 5954071)
MTA To "Revisit" Installing Sliding Doors In Subway Stations

Read More: http://gothamist.com/2012/12/29/mta_..._sliding_d.php






http://gothamist.com/attachments/bya...912sliding.jpg

Of course what they will be planning will look nothing like Hong Kong's.

Busy Bee Jan 1, 2013 5:53 PM

^Nor should they. Frankly I think the platform gates like that of Hong Kong or Paris are totally overbuilt. With their glass sliding doors and walls of 8 feet height, they make the platform seem like a long claustrophobic elevator car or waiting room. There is no reason IMO that a gate can't be just that: a waist height metal railing not totally unlike something one would see on a roller coaster ride platform. This way the station "room" remains psychological open and contiguous with much less disruption aesthetically while achieving the ultimate goal of preventing deaths and injuries both accidental and malicious. What I have in my mind is something like a long minimalist tube, similar to standard subway railings mounted into the platform floor, stainless in color, floating as much as structurally possible – think Apple store. When the train arrives (with future PTC automation) the doors line up with the designated "gates" that appear relatively seamless except for designation markings of some kind or thickness change, etc. At that point a hydraulic or electrical system pulls the arm segment into itself, with tight tolerances of measurement and rounded design to prevent pinching injuries. After unloading and loading the arms close synchronistically with car doors with "smart" pressure, similar to doors, to prevent someone or thing from getting pinned between the arms, only closing when obstruction free.

This is all one needs, those glass walls and doors seem like the product of an engineer that's gotten completely out of hand. Not to mention the exorbitant cost.

electricron Jan 1, 2013 8:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 5955357)
^Nor should they. Frankly I think the platform gates like that of Hong Kong or Paris are totally overbuilt. With their glass sliding doors and walls of 8 feet height, they make the platform seem like a long claustrophobic elevator car or waiting room. There is no reason IMO that a gate can't be just that: a waist height metal railing not totally unlike something one would see on a roller coaster ride platform. This way the station "room" remains psychological open and contiguous with much less disruption aesthetically while achieving the ultimate goal of preventing deaths and injuries both accidental and malicious. What I have in my mind is something like a long minimalist tube, similar to standard subway railings mounted into the platform floor, stainless in color, floating as much as structurally possible – think Apple store. When the train arrives (with future PTC automation) the doors line up with the designated "gates" that appear relatively seamless except for designation markings of some kind or thickness change, etc. At that point a hydraulic or electrical system pulls the arm segment into itself, with tight tolerances of measurement and rounded design to prevent pinching injuries. After unloading and loading the arms close synchronistically with car doors with "smart" pressure, similar to doors, to prevent someone or thing from getting pinned between the arms, only closing when obstruction free.

This is all one needs, those glass walls and doors seem like the product of an engineer that's gotten completely out of hand. Not to mention the exorbitant cost.

Whereas I agree with your opinion in many ways, there's just one point you forgot. Railings aren't going to prevent suicides. They will just jump over your gate so they can jump in front of the train. Tempered glass doors prevents those intentional mishaps.

M II A II R II K Jan 1, 2013 8:59 PM

And a fire wouldn't be fueled by an incoming train if it were separated from the platform.

aquablue Jan 2, 2013 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inkoumori (Post 5955003)
N/a

You erased all your comments, hmm.

Onn Jan 2, 2013 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M II A II R II K
And a fire wouldn't be fueled by an incoming train if it were separated from the platform.

I think the gates are a great idea too, how many stories have we heard now of suicides and people being pushed onto the tracks against their will. Whenever an event like that happens its disrupts the entire subway service.

NYC4Life Jan 4, 2013 7:57 PM

9:47 AM
MTA Restoring 17 Axed Bus Routes This Weekend
By: NY1 News

http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stori...s-this-weekend

http://media.ny1.com/media/2013/1/4/...d531be4098.jpg

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The Metropolitan Transportation Authority is bringing back more than a dozen bus routes that were caught in a round of unpopular service cuts in 2010.

Beginning Sunday, full service will resume on 17 bus routes that were cut or shortened during the agency's budget crunch.

That includes two routes in the Bronx, seven in Brooklyn, three in Manhattan and five in Queens.

Two local bus lines and two express bus routes on Staten Island will be restored on January 20.

The MTA is spending $18 million to provide the additional bus service.

Several new regular and select bus routes are being added later this year.

For a list of all the routes being restored, visit mta.info.



© 1999-2012 NY1 News and Time Warner Cable Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Inkoumori Jan 5, 2013 9:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aquablue (Post 5955639)
You erased all your comments, hmm.

Yeah, sorry. It was New Year's Day and I had written several well thought out posts concerning JFK/EWR/LHR and CDG - but J. Will was determined to troll me. So in the interest of not having my day ruined, I erased it all and left him with no further nourishment ;)

Don't worry, I'm sure he'll return.

Inkoumori Jan 5, 2013 10:00 PM

UPPER EAST SIDE — Residents concerned about damage to subway tunnels and rails in the wake of Superstorm Sandy fear the MTA isn't doing enough to shore up the under-construction Second Avenue subway to defend it against future storms.

Read more: http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/2012...#ixzz2H8okPkoE

J. Will Jan 6, 2013 4:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Inkoumori (Post 5960787)
Yeah, sorry. It was New Year's Day and I had written several well thought out posts concerning JFK/EWR/LHR and CDG - but J. Will was determined to troll me.

Nope. You made a comment suggesting you don't understand the meaning of a one-seat ride, so I explained it to you. That is the opposite of trolling. I was trying to help you understand. I'm not the troll in this thread. Look in the mirror. Your "of course I understand" comment after you made a comment clearly suggesting you didn't understand the term was silly. Keep trolling though. It's what you do best.

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Don't worry, I'm sure he'll return.
Just as sure as I'm sure you'll return. Unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by aquablue (Post 5955639)
You erased all your comments, hmm.

Even he realized how stupid they were. Eventually at least.

sbarn Jan 6, 2013 5:01 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Will (Post 5961184)
Nope. You made a comment suggesting you don't understand the meaning of a one-seat ride, so I explained it to you. That is the opposite of trolling. I was trying to help you understand. I'm not the troll in this thread. Look in the mirror. Your "of course I understand" comment after you made a comment clearly suggesting you didn't understand the term was silly. Keep trolling though. It's what you do best.



Just as sure as I'm sure you'll return. Unfortunately.



Even he realized how stupid they were. Eventually at least.

Wow, seriously? Leave the guy alone. Your post has nothing to do with to topic at hand, rather it's a nasty personal attack. To me that sure seems like trolling.

J. Will Jan 6, 2013 5:12 AM

I'm willing to leave him alone as long as he stops bringing my name up a week after the fact. There was no need to mention my name when I hadn't even posted in the thread in over a week. And I thought his comments about me in December constituted a "nasty personal attack" as well. I was trying to help him out by explaining a term to him, and he attacked me for it. Some thanks.

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To me that sure seems like trolling.
He said he didn't understand the meaning of a term. So I explained it to him. That's trolling? Helping him out. I'm curious where this "nasty personal attack" I made towards him is in your opinion. Can you reference the exact post number where I made a "nasty personal attack" on him so I can go back and read exactly what I said.

NYC4Life Jan 7, 2013 10:36 PM

UPDATED 3:30 PM
City School Buses Rolling; Strike Threat Still Looms
By: Kristen Shaughnessy

http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stori...at-still-looms

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City school buses were rolling Monday morning even though the threat of a strike still looms.

The union representing bus drivers gave word last night that drivers would be on the job this morning. But parents of 150,000 city school kids who rely on buses are making contingency plans anyway.

If there is a strike students can get a MetroCard from their school's general office.

Parents of children in kindergarten through second grade and individualized education programs will also get MetroCards.

The DOE has alerted the Metropolitan Transportation Authority to prepare for increased subway ridership.

Also, parents who live too far from public transportation will be reimbursed if they choose to drive their children, at a rate of 55 cents a mile.

Local 1181 of the Amalgamated Transit Union has not said whether it will strike.

The city is in the process of bidding out new school bus contracts.

The union wants the city to guarantee their drivers would keep their jobs under the new contracts.

The city says it's illegal to include that job protection in a new contract.

"The union has said well maybe on Monday, maybe Wednesday, maybe we'll do it, maybe we won't do it. They're jerking our kids around. We can't allow that to happen. I'm not going to allow that to happen," said Schools Chancellor Dennis Walcott.

"A strike is the last card we want to play. But if we are given no other alternative or no other option, we will do what we need to do to protect the children of the city of New York and the work force of the school bus driver industry," said Local 1181 Rep. Michael Cordiello.

Chancellor Walcott says when the city put the pre-K bus contracts up for bid the city saved $95 million over five years.

The union, however, is worried bus companies who get the contracts might hire lower paid or nonunion drivers, leaving some of its drivers and attendants without a job.

"We just need security, job security. We are not asking for anything else. Just to keep our jobs that's it," said Bus Attendant Grace Mancini.

Walcott says regardless of who gets the new contract it still requires all bus drivers to be certified and complete the mandatory trainings.

The current contract for drivers and matrons ends in June.



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NYC4Life Jan 7, 2013 10:42 PM

WABC-TV - NEW YORK

PATH escalator accident injures 5
Updated at 05:11 PM today

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...sey&id=8944676

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JERSEY CITY (WABC) -- Screams and panic engulfed a commuter rail station Monday morning when an ascending escalator changed direction and started to head back down, causing some people to jump off mid-ride.

Port Authority spokesman Ron Marsico says the five people were hurt when the escalator started moving in the wrong direction around 9:00 a.m.

Three people were taken to the hospital as a precaution, according to Marsico. None of the injuries was considered life-threatening. They ranged from back and neck pain to scrapes, bumps and bruises, Marsico said.

Nick Lukish, of Brooklyn, N.Y., said he was headed to work and midway up the escalator when the moving staircase started going down.
"There was a stampede at the base of the escalator," Lukish said. "People started to panic and yell and scream, and I saw some people jump over to the down side of the escalator, so I jumped."

The 33-year-old, who works in information technology at a bank in Jersey City, said it wasn't until he got to work that he noticed he had cuts and bruises on his shins from the jump. After going to a pharmacy to get some bandages, he returned to the station to give his account to police.

Two of the station's three escalators were shut down after the incident, forcing thousands of commuters to walk up the 128 stairs to the street. The Port Authority says escalators at Exchange Place will remain suspended through at least Tuesday morning.

Marsico says officials don't know what caused the escalator to malfunction. A witness posted video of the incident on YouTube. Watch Alex Rodriguez' video HERE.

The Exchange Place station suffered extensive damage during Superstorm Sandy, and the Port Authority is investigating whether that played a factor in Monday's incident.


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NYC4Life Jan 7, 2013 10:44 PM

Video of PATH escalator accident that occurred at the Exchange Place station:

Video Link


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