PHILADELPHIA | Live! Hotel & Casino | 215 FT | 13 FLOORS
 

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Title: Live! Hotel & Casino
Project: Casino, Hotel, Restaurant, Nightlife
Architect: BLTa
Developer: Cordish Companies and Greenwood Racing & Entertainment
Location: 10th and Packer Ave. Philadelphia, PA
Neighborhood: Sports Complex
District: South Philadelphia
Floors: 13 floors
Height: 215 feet

http://billypenn.com/2015/07/01/deta...ned-asian-pit/

Why are all of the new threads not showing up in the Philadelphia Projects & Construction Forum?

That's what I was thinking too.

Mystery for the ages.

I still wish that we would have ended up with Market8. That had to be one of the sexiest buildings I have ever seen proposed for Philly. It also made the most sense from a transportation standpoint: 8th and Market is a transportation nexus. Finally, it would have filled in the Disney Hole-turned-surface parking lot.

Meh, with all the other stuff that's going on along Market East right now (East Market, the Gallery reno, the Lit Brothers tower proposal, Brandywine buying the 7th and Market parking garage, and even Brookstone's project down on Chestnut -- that's five projects! Holy crap!), I'm pretty sure we're gonna hear some new proposal at 8th and Market in the not-too-distant future.

I'm hoping for it! Speaking of five projects, it may be up to 8 now! In the latest article on the Gallery, PRIET and Macerich are looking at constructing THREE towers as a part of their Gallery renovation! :cheers:

The City should do everything in its power to get the Sixers billionaire owner(s) to build a new arena with a mixed use development at this location (spilling over to the septa stop and Rite Aid, Burger King, Parkway lot, etc, etc). Take over the whole damn jawn.

If Edmonton can do it -see the Rogers complex - super modern arena with a 600ft+ tower development, hotel etc - Philadelphia should figure it out.

Someone needs to get an admin to add them to the Philadelphia Projects main board. (I think).
I'm sure mr. summersm343 would've done it already if he could. I remember him say once that an admin needs to be contacted for such requests (I think).

But yeah - One Water Street, this Live!, Penn Medicine South Tower, and Penn Medicine Towers, should be all moved over.

What admin can do this??? :shrug:

Good development. Hopefully up to par or exceeds the Parx Casino. Good location too.

Those overbuild footings have been there since the thing was built. And Coradino is bluster bluster bluster ... I'll believe it when I see it.

I wrote a polite email to one of the admin's asking them to help with this - and no reply back, been 10 days or so.... so I'm assuming Admin types really don't give a care.

Update from Plan Philly

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http://planphilly.com/articles/2015/...tel-and-casino

Commission approves master plan for South Philly casino

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http://planphilly.com/articles/2015/...-philly-casino

http://www.phila.gov/CityPlanning/me...%20Hearing.pdf

City Planning Commission OK's Philly's 2nd casino

http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelp...nd-casino.html

Councilman Johnson introduces rezoning for South Philly casino

http://planphilly.com/articles/2015/...-philly-casino

Council Committee Approves Casino Zoning

http://www.centercityphila.org/press...news120115.php

Being a Phillies season ticket holder (sorry), looking forward to this. I could see a ballgame, dinner at the casino, a little gambling and a comp room in my future. :)

I like this project, the most perfect place in the delaware valley for a casino

I liked the proposal with the amusement park. Philly really needs a amusement park (Maybe indoor).

Why? Plenty of World Class amusement parks near by: Six Flags, Hershey Park, Dorney Park, Sesame Place, Morey's Piers, etc.

I would prefer not to waste valuable land within city limits for an amusement park.

Why not? It's a big city/county. My mom used to tell stories about going to Woodside Park in the 40's. If New York can squeeze in Coney Island, we can manage something more modest. I wonder what we could do to make us more like Dallas? ;)

DisneyQuest® Indoor Interactive Theme Park- Why not?

They would make a killing in profits.

Okay. I would accept that. Haha! :tup:

I thought we already had an amusement park at the intersection of Broad & Market.

LMAO! Great one! :haha:


...On a serious note, the Sports Complex area would be a PERFECT nightlife district, including some TOD around Pattison (AT&T) station. Huge parking lots could be redeveloped under a special "Entertainment District" rezoning. Plus, that area is well-served by 24 hour weekend service on the Broad Street Line.

I think the area could handle residential as well, forming a grid around the ballpark

also some of the warehouses are moving i believe and could be redevelopment spots, maybe an extended LRT from De Ave to the area as well but think the areas around the BSL could support development and still retain some fo the or most of the parking


Imagine apts and retail lining the street accross from the ballpark etc, maybe a roof ppol with views in etc.

Wasn't there plans for an amusement park on that island in the Delaware years ago? That'd be kinda cool

I don't recall, but it sounds vaguely familiar.

City council approved zoning today, but they need the Supreme Court to uphold the license. Construction could begin in 2016, opening in 2018.

Still talks of a renovated Holiday Inn.

http://6abc.com/news/city-council-approves-zoning-for-$450m-casino-complex-/1117776/

Council Approves Glitzy South Philly Casino

http://www.phillymag.com/news/2015/1...philly-casino/

Nice! It will be located not far from all of the Sports Arenas.
Travel Agents could promote Philly as an entertainment center too!


I just hope they BUILD THE HOTEL FIRST! And not like Sugar House.

There still is no hotel at Sugar House. What gives??

More from Curbed Philly

http://philly.curbed.com/archives/20...g-approval.php

The hotel at the Live Casino is already built. It's a rehab of the existing Holiday Inn.
The hotel at SugarHouse? LOL. Did you really fall for that? The days of people traveling from afar to gamble (and needing a hotel room to stay in) are long gone, except for Vegas. Any casino proposal that includes a hotel should not ever be taken seriously. Except in Live's case because they're using an existing hotel, which will draw the same clientele as before - no one will be staying at that hotel for the sole purpose of gambling at Live.

Uhh..... I think they have old information. The hotel is being demo'd and a new hotel will be built in it's place.

The original plan was just to re-purpose the Holiday Inn, but they have since decided to demolish it. Look at the renderings, the new hotel tower is in a completely different location than the Holiday Inn. Also, the current Holiday Inn is 11 floors and the new hotel is 18 floors. It's just lazy journalism from ABC.

This is the old plan that called for repurposing the Holiday Inn hotel:

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This is the NEW plan which calls for a demo of the Holiday Inn and a new hotel tower constructed:
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I think the area needs a hotel regardless with the number of events

Maybe a second, which the area around the baseball stadium and along pattison would infill a bit along the roads at least

I think if this does move ahead the Hotel will be built, not all demand will be coming from the casino itself and may be able to sell as location for NY visitors (business etc.)

I also imagine that with their large lot they will look to steal parkers from other city lots (not sure they accounted for that loss of revenue the city that is) with some lure of gamble at least 20 minutes or something and get parking waived/voucher etc.

They will have to have some parking control function as left at say $5 it would be preferred and fill quickly over 20-30 options

Yes, what I was trying to say was this area has an established need for a hotel. Not only events, but also I'd bet a lot of folks stay there as a cheaper alternative to staying downtown. The subway is very close by, putting CC within easy reach. I don't think the casino itself will drive additional demand. Plus it's close to the airport but in a more lively area. And the Navy Yard.

I don't know how many rooms difference there will be between the existing and proposed hotels, but overall it's pretty much a wash.

Yeah. not much of a different. Current Holiday Inn is 238 rooms. New hotel would be about 310 rooms.

I wish they would go ahead and built out the entire XFinity Live complex as originally planned and build the hotel tower they had planned there:

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I was thinking about that. Maybe the growth of the Navy Yard will prompt that, but wouldn't it be more likely that the hotel would be at the Navy Yard? Without transit access, it makes more sense to put it there, I'd think. Maybe the between the growing Navy Yard and a little extra casino-based demand there'd be enough reason to put a hotel at Broad & Pattison.

This area needs a reinvigoration

Could easily have a lot more development and fill out a grid. Air rights for development, street walls. Residential, commercial, retail, hotels etc.

take advantage of the PT and 95 access and more than ample parking which could be maintained with two or even three garages and an elevated park and ride

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?m...6Q&usp=sharing

Seems like they are eliminating a ton of parking lots here. Hope some of these projects have underground parking or a garage.

Somehow, I don't think that "Save the Parking Lots!" is going to catch on.;)

their garage will have 2,800 spots think all will be well with the world

I wonder if they will charge less than the $16 for parking at CBP ??

maybe if you use casino services...

PA Supreme Court Returns Application for City’s Second Casino

http://www.centercityphila.org/press...news040516.php

So.... You're saying there's a chance!!

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My first thought exactly! :D

I'm guessing that if Live! falls through the whole thing would have to go to committee again with new proposals. That's what happened when Foxwoods died. In all honesty, given AC's recent casino troubles I have a hard time getting too excited about any new proposed casino in Philly.