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ethereal_reality Jun 18, 2015 11:21 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...908/9CiHjY.jpg

:previous: Good eye Hoss. The Full Moon Inn sign hides the most significant architectural detail.

ethereal_reality Jun 18, 2015 11:28 PM

'mystery' location.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/zKSMah.jpg
eBay

The white building on the left might be an elementary school. Could the three streetcars be lined up for a field trip excursion?

but I'm mostly curious about the older brick building down the street.

Tourmaline Jun 18, 2015 11:57 PM




The apartment bldg. at 1515 N Silver Lake Blvd. was reportedly built in 1929 and retains many of the stream line and zig-zag features that took it from being a box to being a box with nice wrapping. ;) Although the photo below doesn't show it, and depending on your viewpoint, some of those features are partially obscured by foliage and neighboring structures.



http://photonet.hotpads.com/search/l...384_medium.jpghttp://photonet.hotpads.com/search/l...384_medium.jpg


:hi:

On the subject of reposts, it is good to know that posters make an effort to determine if an image or subject has received prior exposure on NLA. Realistically, even if the poster has followed this thread from its inception, this is not an easy task, and not just because of the labeling, or lack thereof. It is also good manners and in some instances, the secondary post improves upon the original. In that regard, I would like to commend NLA'ers for the courtesy and respect shown toward the labors of other posters and their sources - even when there is slight disagreement about the topic or an occasional oversight.

One other thing, a special thanks to our friends at the Historic Los Angeles Theaters site who obviously visit this thread. ( https://sites.google.com/site/downto...stheatres/Home ) Not only is the site informative, but they also acknowledge indirect contributions from NLA'ers. Until recently, I was unaware of this. This is a good practice that other sites should follow.

CityBoyDoug Jun 19, 2015 12:26 AM

Mr. California - 1947
 
How could this happen? Healthy appearing young man caught up in local chicanery. This was in 1947 at almost the height of the noir era...so I guess this was not all that surprising.
He also uses at least two names whilst doing his business about town.


Gym bunny gives his address as a local bowling alley.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psqw5hel2s.jpg
LAExaminer

More 1946 Hollywood bowling alley badness. "Hey, where's my Coke?" "It's coming dear, just let me step over the dead body."

In Hollywood's La Cienega bowling alley a familiar story reached its climax on Aug. 7, 1946. A professional bowler named Marvin Ashley, who liked one of the waitresses, saw her being escorted home in early morning by Joseph Smith, who worked at a pool hall down the block. He knocked Smith down and blackened his eye. That night, while Ashley sat at the bar, Smith walked in. A moment later Ashley lay dead on the floor, shot in the heart. The 200 customers gathered around, more in curiousity than in fright. The body was covered with a blanket and police were called. Soon the customers went back to their bowling or their drinks. The juke box played on without losing a nickel. Waitresses, passing from bar to tables, walked right past the body -- enabling a Los Angeles Times photographer to take this great picture of a routine 1946 event.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pszrjmdq1u.jpg
LATimes

Those bowlers are tough cookies.:previous:

Beaudry Jun 19, 2015 12:27 AM

Found this on eBay the other day.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/467/18...e801c2de_c.jpg

I am quite enamored of the forceful, flowery prose (to Mother Lewis back in Salt Springs, Arkansas):

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/268/18...2e6a6a0f_c.jpg
Dear Mother,
This Building is the successful result of years of toil and close application and mental (—?). Excepting public buildings and skyscrapers, it is one of the largest and handsomest in this great metropolis and a striking and useful monument to the name of Lewis.



Said name of Lewis now removed from the top story (along, that is, with the top story)—but does "Lewiston Apts" still lurk beneath that awning?

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/433/18...83fac90c_c.jpg

Normally I'd think the third story was lost after Sylmar, or maybe Whittier...but the permit to demolish the third story is stamped June of '59. How do I know this? Because I went to THIS AMAZING NEW SITE. Total game changer, this great gift to the historian-at-large.

ethereal_reality Jun 19, 2015 1:05 AM

That's an excellent find Beaudry. The sentiment on the reverse is priceless.

ethereal_reality Jun 19, 2015 1:17 AM

Here's 'Mr. Grand Theft Auto' in a more serious pose CBD.

Eric Pederson, Mr. California 1947. (real name Charles E. Putnam)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/FMN8L9.jpg
http://www.vintagebodybuilding.com/

...and that photograph of the dead guy at the bowling alley was pretty surreal.
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Ed Workman Jun 19, 2015 1:54 AM

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;7067579]"This remarkable photograph from a Keystone Cops silent film made around 1918 shows Los Angeles Railway "Maggies" nos. 1 and 7." -Ralph Cantos


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/N89Juk.jpg
http://www.pacificelectric.org/los-a...y-nos-1-and-7/



Looking south on Douglas Street from just above Ridge Way.


If one could find a copy of the Kops and Maggies movie, finding that scene is highly unlikely.
Because it's too sharp to be from a movie frame.
'Stills" of movie scenes were made for tacking in the window boxes at theatres to promote Now Playing and Coming Attractions. They were made on a set, with all the players neatly combed, brushed etc, posed VERY STILL onnacounta the shots were made on 8x10 [black&white, slow] film, at small apertures for maximum sharpness. Once a successful negative [s] was selected it could be rapidly contact printed for distribution. At some point I don't know in time, negatives could be duplicated and each contact printed rapidly.
I wonder if there are still bookstores in Hollywood that sell old stills- it's been decades since I looked

And why Maggies? . Those folks that have kept up with LARy streetcar pictures will note the classic 'five window front' exhibited by hundreds of Mr. Huntington's cars.
The Maggies were substantially shorter however, small in number and are most remembered, or photographed on, the Bonnie Brae line, which was rather steep. Some of the cars were fitted with magnetic track brakes for maximum stopping power in addition to shoes on the wheel treads.
The number of such cars varied with the times. They were rebuilt from older 'odd' cars and in turn were 'rebuilt' into other types, a stretch of the word as lengths did change greatly- as in 'jack up the trolley pole and roll a new car under it'.

HenryHuntington Jun 19, 2015 2:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7067686)
'mystery' location.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/zKSMah.jpg
eBay

The white building on the left might be an elementary school. Could the three streetcars be lined up for a field trip excursion?

but I'm mostly curious about the older brick building down the street.

We are once again at the corner of Monroe St. and New Hampshire Ave. If we were to do a right-face, we'd be enjoying the same view as in that "mystery pic" of a week or so back, ER.

Instead, we're looking east on Monroe St. toward Vermont Ave. The building to our left is on the LACC campus. The streetcars are laying over at the northern terminus of the V line.

This time, the building that's attracted your attention is at 800-816 N. Vermont Ave.

John Maddox Roberts Jun 19, 2015 2:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7067786)
Here's 'Mr. Grand Theft Auto' in a more serious pose CBD.

Eric Pederson, Mr. California 1947. (real name Charles E. Putnam)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/FMN8L9.jpg
http://www.vintagebodybuilding.com/

...and that photograph of the dead guy at the bowling alley was pretty surreal.
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Yeah, but that's one great-looking waitress!

CityBoyDoug Jun 19, 2015 2:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7067786)
Here's 'Mr. Grand Theft Auto' in a more serious pose CBD.

Eric Pederson, Mr. California 1947. (real name Charles E. Putnam)


...and that photograph of the dead guy at the bowling alley was pretty surreal.
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Eric Petersen has a FaceBook page....https://www.facebook.com/pages/Eric-...36866119662279

Thanks ER for the added info...most interesting. He went on to being a pro circuit wrestler. The FB page has a lot of photos but not much on his personal life which evidently included a wife and a couple kids.

I always thought that bowling alleys were kinda sleazy places but others will differ on that.
I once took all of my employees to a pool hall for some recreation.:D


Backstage at the 1947 contest...Long Beach, CA auditorium. It was hard to beat Steve Reeves in 1947.
Petersen ..3rd from left. He scored 2nd Place.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps7w4rprjn.jpg
FBpage.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psp20drsdh.jpg
Gimage

The Mr. America for 1947 was destined to eclipse all the others in fame and fortune. Steve Reeves used his victory in America's most renowned physique contest as a catapult to stardom. Reeves was a California bodybuilder with the face of a matinee idol and the body of Hercules. It was his resemblance to the Greek hero that allowed the young man to branch out into the movies. Thanks to his contest win, he was soon whisked off to Italy where he appeared in a series of Italian gladiator movies. By the end of his cinematic career, Reeves had become the most famous star to come out of the physique world until Schwarzenegger overtook him.

ethereal_reality Jun 19, 2015 3:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HenryHuntington (Post 7067849)

We're looking east on Monroe St. toward Vermont Ave. The building to our left is on the LACC campus.
The streetcars are laying over at the northern terminus of the V line.

This time, the building that's attracted your attention is at 800-816 N. Vermont Ave.


below: A 'before & after' based on your information HH.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/zKSMah.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...913/MImOB2.jpg
gsv

:previous: They've buried the utilities.







Here's an impressive look at the building on Vermont.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...633/2XnUfS.jpg
gsv

Thanks so much for your help HenryHuntington.


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Tourmaline Jun 19, 2015 3:37 AM


A block to the left, or north, would have been the Junior College Pharmacy at 850 N Vermont.



MichaelRyerson Jun 19, 2015 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 7067674)
The Stuart K Oliver house, which's popped up here before a number of times, gets a nice little write-up by Nathan Masters as part of the "LA as Subject" series: http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_focus/history/la-as-subject/last-house-standing-on-bunker-hill.html

http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_fo...x415-93961.jpg


That Nathan Masters guy is a fine writer.

srk1941 Jun 19, 2015 5:12 PM

This is the greatest gift I can think of since the LA Times was digitized!!!


Normally I'd think the third story was lost after Sylmar, or maybe Whittier...but the permit to demolish the third story is stamped June of '59. How do I know this? Because I went to THIS AMAZING NEW SITE. Total game changer, this great gift to the historian-at-large.[/QUOTE]

Beaudry Jun 19, 2015 6:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 7068069)
That Nathan Masters guy is a fine writer.

He is! (To be clear, though, don't confuse him with that Nathan Marsak guy. Don't get me started on him.)

Beaudry Jun 19, 2015 7:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srk1941 (Post 7068470)
This is the greatest gift I can think of since the LA Times was digitized!!!


Normally I'd think the third story was lost after Sylmar, or maybe Whittier...but the permit to demolish the third story is stamped June of '59. How do I know this? Because I went to THIS AMAZING NEW SITE. Total game changer, this great gift to the historian-at-large.

[/QUOTE]

I couldn't agree more! For years I've wanted to know who the architect was for the SoR—and it's Dodd & Richards! Who I also found out did the Clark Hotel Garage. In this shot, the Lux Theatre is by Train & Williams, the Hotel Jonathon by C C Rittenhouse! The Alto is by L A Smith, the Briggs by Frank H Peters...ad infinitum. Plus the demo permits, so we know exactly when things came down (putting to rest the age-old questions of "how long, exactly, did the Engstrum hang around [all the way to 1988; at least that's when its demo permit was granted, along with the demos for the Grand Central/Biltmore Garage at 5th and Grand, and the Central Garage at 4th and Olive]). I've just scratched the tip of the iceberg and I've already become a wan hunchback...

ethereal_reality Jun 19, 2015 8:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 7068570)
To be clear, though, don't confuse him with that Nathan Marsak guy. Don't get me started on him.

I've heard that 'Marsak guy' is quite a dapper fellow. ;)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/x6x22w.jpg
http://media.lamag.com/fashionfeatur...riteyear/#1920

ethereal_reality Jun 19, 2015 8:18 PM

Has anyone heard of a 'Sphynx Rock' out in Chatsworth?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/912/qiHTA2.jpg
eBay

ethereal_reality Jun 19, 2015 8:44 PM

An old, old pre-neon bulb sign still clinging to life in downtown Los Angeles.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/yvfkob.jpg
http://flickrhivemind.net/Tags/itsasign,la/Interesting



It's hiding in plain sight on the back of a building that faces Broadway. You can see it here from Spring Street.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/kxsxb4.jpg
gsv



a bit closer
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/LFiedG.jpg
http://vintagesignsusa.blogspot.com/...itting-co.html



Here's the front of the building on Broadway (the shorter one of the two)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...908/ySr8n7.jpg
circa. 1950, https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater



and today.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/feaBt7.jpg
gsv



further information
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...537/IQGaMl.jpg
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=40...08100&z=12&m=b

"Brown-Israel Outfitting Co. Clothes on Credit" bulb sign

F.W. Braun Building, 1913. W.J. Sauder, architect

Brown-Israel Outfitting Company. -enlarged to six stories in 1922.

architect: Benjamin Bloser

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ethereal_reality Jun 19, 2015 9:15 PM

Mini-Ferris Wheel, Chinatown, Los Angeles (no date)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/htcOIv.jpg
Rinzi Ruiz at https://www.flickr.com/photos/48029767@N08/8279990353

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ethereal_reality Jun 19, 2015 9:26 PM

aerial view of the pool at the Hotel Figueroa.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/m1hAfg.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...912/okRFP2.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/michae...n/photostream/

I don't believe I've ever seen a coffin-shaped pool before.


We visited the pool area back in April.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=27871

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BifRayRock Jun 19, 2015 11:43 PM





There have been a number of Bob's Air Mail Posts, the first of which might be http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7493 Since that 2012-post additional information has come to light.

A Building Records Search for 5453 Wilshire reveals that Sorrell's Auto and Finance Inc., of 5514 Wilshire obtained a permit for an "office" in 1932. An "A V Spencer" then obtained a permit for a gas station in '33. Another permit was obtained in 1934 for a gas pump "canopy" and the size of the building apparently says in cursive "aeroplane." There is a 1936 CD listing for A V Spencer at 5453 Wilshire and a '38 CD listing for Bob's at the same 5453 address. The party was over by March 1939 when a demolition permit was obtained. The estimate for the destruction and removal was $50.


A couple of sources suggest that "A V Spencer" was also known as Bob Spencer, hence the name, Bob's Airmail Service. (FWIW, the manager in the '38CD for Bob's is listed as "Robt. Kreisler") One of the same sources states that the ten constructed Fokker F32's were bona fide white elephants, especially after the bad publicity received following Knute Rockne's March '31 death in a different model Fokker and the Great Depression.

Spencer reportedly took advantage of the inexpensive Fokker as an attraction, and according to the same source, "Spencer's brainwave was a runaway success. In 1934, Bob's Air Mail Service Station sold more Mobiloil and Mobilgas products than any other dealer on the West Coast."

"Painted white and rechristened The Happy Landing with the company's Flying Red Horse on the wings, the F-32 was illuminated at night. The two forward Pratt & Whitney Hornet engines often roared to life to the astonishment of passing drivers. Neon signs along the wings' leading edges proclaimed: 'BOB'S AIR MAIL SERVICE ... IT'S FASTER - IT'S BETTER.'"
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showt...lly-Big-Fokker




1938 - (At least that's what the license plate supposedly establishes. Black on yellow was also used in '36.)
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...l.jpg~originalhttp://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...l.jpg~original



Note that the forward propeller may actually be moving. Seems perfectly safe, quiet and sane. :no:
http://imageshack.us/a/img23/5346/aa...station193.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img23/5346/aa...station193.jpg



http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/73...757be61f0b.jpghttp://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/73...757be61f0b.jpg





ethereal_reality Jun 19, 2015 11:49 PM

'mystery' location.

Hollywood Calif. 1922
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/MqDVho.png
eBay

I'm guessing that this small lunch counter might have been located on Highland Avenue since the sign says...Hi-Land.
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BifRayRock Jun 20, 2015 1:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 5980044)
The Santa Monica Blvd. address :previous: is interesting as 6700 is currently occupied by a venerable Hollywood name, Eastman Kodak Co. and its processing laboratory. (Las Palmas Ave and Santa Monica Blvd.) This leads one to wonder what happened to the not-unattractive Kodak building downtown formerly at 643 S. Hill?

6706 Santa Monica Boulevard - Kodak

1930
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...IB2KBCD41Y.jpg
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...BMJY4395RM.jpgCalStLib

Contemporary
http://apavlik0.tripod.com/blog/041406_kodak.jpggoogle


Kodak Building - 643 S. Hill (Long gone!)
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics18/00018811.jpgLapl





Hoping the BRS (building records system) could provide more information about the long forgotten Kodak Building at 643 S Hill, but there is evidently "no matching record." The 643 address is listed in the '29 -'42 CDs. The trail goes cold after that. No luck with 645 either. :shrug:





BifRayRock Jun 20, 2015 1:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7068767)
An old, old pre-neon bulb sign still clinging to life in downtown Los Angeles.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/yvfkob.jpg
http://flickrhivemind.net/Tags/itsasign,la/Interesting



It's hiding in plain sight on the back of a building that faces Broadway. You can see it here from Spring Street.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/kxsxb4.jpg
gsv



"Brown-Israel Outfitting Co. Clothes on Credit" bulb sign

F.W. Braun Building, 1913. W.J. Sauder, architect

Brown-Israel Outfitting Company. -enlarged to six stories in 1922.

architect: Benjamin Bloser

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Charles Brown and Joseph Israel "Stylish Clothes for Men, Women and Boys on Extended Charge Account."

Brown-Israel Outfitting at 824 Broadway, per 1923CD




Noircitydame Jun 20, 2015 3:47 AM

Love the electric sign E-R. (That kind of stuff is why I always go ' round the back of the building- the front gets a facelift, the back is left alone)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7069066)



Hoping the BRS (building records system) could provide more information about the long forgotten Kodak Building at 643 S Hill, but there is evidently "no matching record." The 643 address is listed in the '29 -'42 CDs. The trail goes cold after that. No luck with 645 either. :shrug:





All I have in my notes is that Los Angeles Federal Savings & Loan Assoc. bought the building in September 1953 (they'd been tenants since 1941) and altered it beyond recognition by June 1954 with the help of architects Douglas Honnold and John Rex & Associates

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...man9-20-53.jpg LAT 9-20-53

"We consider downtown Los Angeles one of the nation's bright spots"

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...man6-27-54.jpg LAT 6-27-54

I don't know when the remuddled building was demolished; the bank was there through 1966 for sure, but after that all I could find was this saying the existing 1-story jewlery store at 645 S. Hill was under construction in November 1983:

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...2011-20-83.jpg LAT 11-20-83

HossC Jun 20, 2015 9:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7069191)

I don't know when the remuddled building was demolished; the bank was there through 1966 for sure, but after that all I could find was this saying the existing 1-story jewlery store at 645 S. Hill was under construction in November 1983.

The old Kodak Building is visible on the 1964 aerial image below, but it appears to be a parking lot by 1972.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...s.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

GaylordWilshire Jun 20, 2015 11:27 AM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-y...0gas.jpg?gl=USLinda Hammonds


I'm not sure what's going on with the "watery" top of this image, but the information provided says this unusual gas station was at 830 S La Brea in Inglewood. I don't remember seeing this on NLA before...as for repeats in general-- no reason to delete newer posts just because someone else has come across the subject before (no contest here for being first, is there?). If I remember having seen something before and can find it, I sometimes will re-post a link to the prior post so all that's been dug up on a subject can be looked at together. As for the Perelson murder house, I was hoping someone could find the additional pages after ER's initial post that when searched for resulted in a phishing-scam alert on my particular computer.


Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 7066843)
ER discovered this a while back-- I think there were follow-ups, but any further searching on the pages just after his post bring up a "phishing scam" alert on my computer.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1607

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7066927)
My redundant post has been deleted. Thats two in a row for me. I don't know how you found the prior or the ones on the Messerly house either. minkykat had that one listed as the "Masserly" house and Godzilla listed it at 826 "Burlingame". Live and learn.


HossC Jun 20, 2015 2:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7068945)

'mystery' location.

Hollywood Calif. 1922
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/MqDVho.png
eBay

I'm guessing that this small lunch counter might have been located on Highland Avenue since the sign says...Hi-Land.

I found Kwik Lunch in the CDs between 1926 and 1929, including two addresses on N Highland. I couldn't match any of the present-day locations to the photo above.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AKwikLunch.jpg
LAPL

Noircitydame Jun 20, 2015 8:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7068939)




There have been a number of Bob's Air Mail Posts, the first of which might be http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7493 Since that 2012-post additional information has come to light.

A Building Records Search for 5453 Wilshire reveals that Sorrell's Auto and Finance Inc., of 5514 Wilshire obtained a permit for an "office" in 1932. An "A V Spencer" then obtained a permit for a gas station in '33. Another permit was obtained in 1934 for a gas pump "canopy" and the size of the building apparently says in cursive "aeroplane." There is a 1936 CD listing for A V Spencer at 5453 Wilshire and a '38 CD listing for Bob's at the same 5453 address. The party was over by March 1939 when a demolition permit was obtained. The estimate for the destruction and removal was $50.


A couple of sources suggest that "A V Spencer" was also known as Bob Spencer, hence the name, Bob's Airmail Service. (FWIW, the manager in the '38CD for Bob's is listed as "Robt. Kreisler") One of the same sources states that the ten constructed Fokker F32's were bona fide white elephants, especially after the bad publicity received following Knute Rockne's March '31 death in a different model Fokker and the Great Depression.

Spencer reportedly took advantage of the inexpensive Fokker as an attraction, and according to the same source, "Spencer's brainwave was a runaway success. In 1934, Bob's Air Mail Service Station sold more Mobiloil and Mobilgas products than any other dealer on the West Coast."

"Painted white and rechristened The Happy Landing with the company's Flying Red Horse on the wings, the F-32 was illuminated at night. The two forward Pratt & Whitney Hornet engines often roared to life to the astonishment of passing drivers. Neon signs along the wings' leading edges proclaimed: 'BOB'S AIR MAIL SERVICE ... IT'S FASTER - IT'S BETTER.'"
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showt...lly-Big-Fokker




1938 - (At least that's what the license plate supposedly establishes. Black on yellow was also used in '36.)
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...l.jpg~originalhttp://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...l.jpg~original



Note that the forward propeller may actually be moving. Seems perfectly safe, quiet and sane. :no:
http://imageshack.us/a/img23/5346/aa...station193.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img23/5346/aa...station193.jpg



http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/73...757be61f0b.jpghttp://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/73...757be61f0b.jpg





nice to have that date pinned down better.

This site has a loop of a 2-3 second color film of Bob's with the props going: http://twostriptechnicolor.tumblr.co...s-angeles-june

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k.../wilsire39.jpg
I had this photo in my files, unattributed (I've spent an hour trying to figure out my source for it without success, LAPL I thought) c. 1939- before about April 1940 anyway as the White Spot is still The White Spot at 5467. It looks like some sort of wall or foundation going up there that I don't remember seeing when Bob's was there.

Mobile Gas sign, no wall (c. 1938)
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...-cocktails.jpg http://jpg1.lapl.org/00007/00007141.jpg

BifRayRock Jun 20, 2015 9:26 PM







Thanks NCD for the remarkable image. :previous: (Still not quite sure how "A V Spence" became "Bob." :shrug:)


http://31.media.tumblr.com/03b7f9174...u5g7o1_500.gifhttp://31.media.tumblr.com/03b7f9174...u5g7o1_500.gif




I was probably responsible for the image you were trying to source. http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=11862 The original can be found here: http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/22066/rec/1








CityBoyDoug Jun 20, 2015 9:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7068939)







1938 - (At least that's what the license plate supposedly establishes. Black on yellow was also used in '36.)
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Note that the forward propeller may actually be moving. Seems perfectly safe, quiet and sane. :no:
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Love that airplane gas station. What could be more cool. We need more of those today.!!!:tup::D;) It looks like at one point in time they elevated the tail to make the
plane sit more level.

BifRayRock Jun 20, 2015 9:50 PM








Spending a little time at NCD's linked site http://twostriptechnicolor.tumblr.co...ld-Los-Angeles revealed some interesting glimpses of familiar locations, albeit in two-strip techicolor format.





N Main St & Paseo Luis Olivares, 1934 (Notice working pedestrian "safety" zone.)
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Wilshire Brown Derby - 1934
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1946
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1946
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Carthay Circle - 1938
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Albany NY Jun 20, 2015 10:13 PM

No lunch served today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7068945)
'mystery' location.

Hollywood Calif. 1922
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/MqDVho.png
eBay

I'm guessing that this small lunch counter might have been located on Highland Avenue since the sign says...Hi-Land.
__

I think HossC found the right location. The photo below is from 1714 Highland. The entry has changed position, but it looks like the same building. The footprint looks right, and the boarded-up area above the door looks the same. I'm guessing that the building on the far right is also the same.

http://imageshack.com/a/img537/4539/lPz5Zg.jpg

Martin Pal Jun 20, 2015 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7067745)
Gym bunny gives his address as a local bowling alley.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psqw5hel2s.jpg
LAExaminer

This guy is 18?

I haven't been able to find evidence yet of a bowling alley on Hollywood Blvd. at the address given--6624 Hollywood Blvd.

I did, though, find a couple sources that another bodybuilder had one of his gym locations at that address: Bert Goodrich.

http://static.flickr.com/37/78711109_59df5e9740_o.jpg1947 Project

The Kress Department Store is at 6608 Hollywood Blvd. and you can see down the street a ways it looks like a sign for "Goodrich Gyms."

An interesting (!) Steve Reeves story and about this gym:
http://www.pcdon.com/_20_Bert_Goodrich.html


Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7067745)
More 1946 Hollywood bowling alley badness.

In Hollywood's La Cienega bowling alley a familiar story reached its climax on Aug. 7, 1946.

I'm guessing this bowling alley they are talking about is the LA CIENEGA LANES Bowling Alley on La Cienega and Santa Monica Blvd. in West Hollywood?

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8295/7...46bbd21421.jpgFlickr

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7276/7...149979fd_h.jpgFlickr

I did a post titled "100 Years of 1 Corner of the City" found HERE, in which I showed what was located there for the last 100 years.

I recently found this photo of the La Cienega Lanes. The caption was only "La Cienega Lanes" and wasn't dated. It opened with that name in the 40's, subsequently became Art Linkletter's La Cienega Lanes and returned to La Cienega Lanes before it closed down around 1976-77. I'm dating this photo c.1975.

I had no idea of this noir past, CBD.

http://www.michaelvarhol.com/wordpre...ga-Lanes_W.jpgMichael V. Gallery

HossC Jun 20, 2015 10:33 PM

Thanks for the Kwik Lunch follow-up, Albany NY.


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These two are taken from a 1946 color film at archive.org:

https://archive.org/details/PET0981_R-2_LA_color
NB. archive.org have updated their site, so just click to continue to the new site if prompted and the video will appear.

I've previously linked to it in post #24381 and post #24774.

HossC Jun 20, 2015 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7067869)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psp20drsdh.jpg
Gimage

Steve Reeves used his victory in America's most renowned physique contest as a catapult to stardom. Reeves was a California bodybuilder with the face of a matinee idol and the body of Hercules. It was his resemblance to the Greek hero that allowed the young man to branch out into the movies.

Thanks, CityBoyDoug. That explains a line in the 'Sweet Transvestite' song from the Rocky Horror Picture Show:
Let me show you around,
Maybe play you a sound.
You look like you're both pretty groovy.
Or if you want something visual,
That's not too abysmal,
We could take in an old Steve Reeves movie.
I'm obviously not the only one who wasn't aware of his work, because some of the audience participation scripts follow the last line with a shout of "Who the f*** is Steve Reeves?". :)

Tourmaline Jun 21, 2015 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7068728)
Has anyone heard of a 'Sphynx Rock' out in Chatsworth?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/912/qiHTA2.jpg
eBay




Undated, Sphinx Rock at what used to be called Iverson Ranch.

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http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...coll65/id/4916



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Much more on the Sphinx and its cinematic history here: http://a-drifting-cowboy.blogspot.co...n-of-gods.html


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Y5a4oXRi6q...m+Colorado.jpghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Y5a4oXRi6q...m+Colorado.jpg


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-E5CnrEGnzV...os+Angeles.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-E5CnrEGnzV...os+Angeles.jpg

Noircitydame Jun 21, 2015 1:01 AM

Thanks for clearing that up about the photos BifRayRock, I was going crazy trying to find it again and it's right under my nose. :koko:

I could watch those little film loops all day.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7069696)
This guy is 18?

I haven't been able to find evidence yet of a bowling alley on Hollywood Blvd. at the address given--6624 Hollywood Blvd.

I did, though, find a couple sources that another bodybuilder had one of his gym locations at that address: Bert Goodrich.

http://static.flickr.com/37/78711109_59df5e9740_o.jpg1947 Project

IThe Kress Department Store is at 6608 Hollywood Blvd. and you can see down the street a ways it looks like a sign for "Goodrich Gyms."

I have some info on 6624. It was the Cinema Sports Center, opened Nov 1940 and was operating through 1954 at least.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...sports6624.jpg
LAT 11-14-40

It featured a cafe, a gift shop, the Pacific Health Club (baths, sunlamps, massage, body building), and of course bowling (open all night). It had one of those Gruen neon clocks out front.

Before Cinema took over it was retail space, housing Leed's Shoes among others.

Woman walking just past Leeds c. 1937

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...37%20leeds.jpg
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00007/00007797.jpg


There's a great color photo of it in Jim Heinmann's 2009 hardcover book Los Angeles: Portrait of a City (a lot of NLAers probably own this one)
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...inmannbook.jpg (In this case you can judge a book by its cover)


Finally, I doubt he spend as much time in a gym as Mr. California, but how about an unheradled great physique of Hollywood?

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e_edited-1.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm17506365...f_=nm_phs_md_4

Joe E. Brown (here with his wife c. 1951, so he was 59-ish here). Plus by anything I’ve read, a genuinely nice guy.

Jerry/Daphne could do worse. :)

Tourmaline Jun 21, 2015 3:54 AM

Gas without propellers? or Do toads have wings?



For some strange reason, Bob's Air Mail reminds me of Santa Monica's Toed In Sandwich shop. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=11746 http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=25356


http://31.media.tumblr.com/03b7f9174...u5g7o1_500.gif

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On the subject of novelty architecture, I don't recall seeing this Burbank pumpkin on NLA. 3611 Magnolia Blvd. Read more about it here >>> http://wesclark.com/burbank/pumpkin.html



http://wesclark.com/burbank/pumpkin_6.jpg http://wesclark.com/burbank/pumpkin_6.jpg



http://wesclark.com/burbank/pumpkin_3.jpghttp://wesclark.com/burbank/pumpkin_3.jpg



http://wesclark.com/burbank/pumpkin_...ware_store.jpghttp://wesclark.com/burbank/pumpkin_...ware_store.jpg



http://wesclark.com/burbank/valley_g...ay_26_1939.jpghttp://wesclark.com/burbank/valley_g...ay_26_1939.jpg

BDiH Jun 21, 2015 4:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 7069874)

I used to go to the Pumpkin hardware store with my grandfather way back in the day. It was painted orange, of course. It was a landmark in Magnolia Park, just across the street from Albin's Drugs, now Porto's Bakery. We lived on Chandler Boulevard when it was still a gravel road and Debbie Reynolds lived nearby on Evergreen Street.

BifRayRock Jun 21, 2015 3:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7069798)





The chic costume, i.e., slacks, seems possibly more significant than the interesting location or the sidewalk, etc. Could the image have been staged or happenstance? I am guessing that in some circles, this may have still raised a few eyebrows. Evidently, Levi's first marketed its pants specifically for women in 1934.



1936, So. Cal Assistance League debutantes, in season's latest sports clothes.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00115/00115852.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00115/00115852.jpg




1937 - Woman at LA County Fairgrounds
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00097/00097300.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00097/00097300.jpg






Ed Workman Jun 21, 2015 3:06 PM

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...coll65/id/4916



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Much more on the Sphinx and its cinematic history here: http://a-drifting-cowboy.blogspot.co...n-of-gods.html


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Y5a4oXRi6q...m+Colorado.jpghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Y5a4oXRi6q...m+Colorado.jpg

IF I have snipped the quote down properly
The postcard and B&W view look south on the SP.
If that is the Sphinx rock, the movie stills are not.
Those movie rocks are north and east , behind and to the left of the camera position.
Yes they appear in MANY westerns, and they can be seen from the 118 freeway, south side, between the summit and Topanga Cyn Blvd
Unfortunately they have been surrounded by condos for longer than I care to consider- probly more than 25 years.
For movie views of the trackage in that area I recommend the opening credit scenes of "White Heat" with Cagney, Mayo et al. Later scenes of the train robbery were shot at the west portal of the long tunnel, the second beyond the postcard view, to the right/west in the Simi Valley. The siding was named Hasson and after years of removal , is named for a new siding slightly farther west, used for Metrolink
That area was also the site of a gazillion movies and was later made a tourist attraction by, and named for, Ray 'Crash' Corrigan .
He was one of many who played a 'Three Mesquiteer"
In the 50s Corrigan made the LA Times for being busted in a motel by his wife's snooper. Can't remember the term used for it, but it was illegal until Willy Brown got a law passed, years later, making the term 'consenting adults' familiar, and legal.

Noircitydame Jun 21, 2015 5:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7070068)
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The chic costume, i.e., slacks, seems possibly more significant than the interesting location or the sidewalk, etc. Could the image have been staged or happenstance? I am guessing that in some circles, this may have still raised a few eyebrows. Evidently, Levi's first marketed its pants specifically for women in 1934.

She’s pretty unusual and chic even for slacks-loving Hollywood. It’s one of a series in LAPL’s collection of Herman Schultheis on what looks like the same day, and apparently random. Several women he captured were in slacks.

In front of The Broadway Hollywood at Vine:
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/00011291.jpg
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011291.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/00011290.jpg
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics03/00011290.jpg

This gal is my favorite:
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/00007798.jpg http://jpg1.lapl.org/00007/00007798.jpg

(reflection of Bradley's 5 & 10 in the windows)

Noircitydame Jun 21, 2015 6:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Workman (Post 7070069)
[That area was also the site of a gazillion movies and was later made a tourist attraction by, and named for, Ray 'Crash' Corrigan .
He was one of many who played a 'Three Mesquiteer"
In the 50s Corrigan made the LA Times for being busted in a motel by his wife's snooper. Can't remember the term used for it, but it was illegal until Willy Brown got a law passed, years later, making the term 'consenting adults' familiar, and legal.

It was the other way around: In early June 1954 Crash crashed his wife’s apartment-motel with three detectives. It’s a sad story, especially on Father’s Day. They were in the middle of a nasty divorce that involved custody of their 3 children and the kids were made wards of the court after this incident. She’d filed for divorce on grounds of cruelty; he could countersue or be in a better position to get custody, which didn't tend to favor fathers, if he found her in an adultery situation. Mrs. Corrigan was there with Moses (Bud) Stiltz, the ex-foreman of Crash’s Corriganville ranch; she said she’d asked him there for protection against her husband.

A couple days later Crash and Stiltz were involved in a strange high speed chase through Reseda and Tarzana that ended with each threatening to charge the other with assault with a deadly weapon. Rita Corrigan got her divorce in November 1954 but in December the judge refused to grant custody of the kids to either parent.

Stiltz was the person who, 5 years after this, in Jan 1959- shot “Alfalfa” Switzer at the home of the ex-Mrs. Rita Corrigan in what was ruled a justifiable homicide. (LAT 6-3-1954, 6-5-54, 6-6-54, 11-30-54, 12-21-54, 1-27-59)

HossC Jun 21, 2015 6:54 PM

:previous:

The story of the death of “Alfalfa” Switzer was covered by gsjansen in post #2425.

Tourmaline Jun 21, 2015 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5298708)
joan crawford for buick 1927

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5226/...31cb3717_b.jpg



clara bow for lasalle 1927

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5106/...4bcbb4e6_b.jpg



delores del rio for cadillac 1927

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5030/...375c4735_b.jpg Source: LAPL California Index





Moon auto's were mentioned here: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=22553 Yet I don't believe we noticed Clara straddling a 1919 Moon. Disney was a reputed Moon fan, could this be one of the reasons?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6652039)



1926
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By 1931, Clara was taking a more conservative approach to life and offering words to drive by.

1931
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This synopsis paints Clara's life as incredibly tough and unflattering. http://www.jeanknowscars.com/you-aut...men-clara-bow/




1926 CA license plates
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Martin Pal Jun 21, 2015 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7069798)

I have some info on 6624. It was the Cinema Sports Center, opened Nov 1940...

Thanks for the info NCD.

http://static.flickr.com/37/78711109_59df5e9740_o.jpg

In the photo here, I am guessing now that the blade sign next to Goodrich Gyms,
the first three letters of which are in the light, says "BOWLING."

P.S.:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7069798)
Finally, I doubt he spend as much time in a gym as Mr. California, but how about an unheradled great physique of Hollywood?
Joe E. Brown (here with his wife c. 1951, so he was 59-ish here). Plus by anything I’ve read, a genuinely nice guy.

Jerry/Daphne could do worse. :)

"Zowie!"

Martin Pal Jun 21, 2015 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 7069794)
Undated, Sphinx Rock at what used to be called Iverson Ranch.

I've been discovering the television series COMBAT lately and several of the
actors, directors and writers who have done commentary for various episodes
have mentioned filming many scenes and entire episodes at the Iverson Ranch.

Several have even mentioned what Ed Workman noted:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Workman (Post 7070069)
...have been surrounded by condos for longer than I care to consider- probably more than 25 years.

I found a blog devoted to the Iverson Ranch and all topics concerning it.
It even has a section to look up specific rock features!

http://iversonmovieranch.blogspot.co...son-movie.html

From the blog:

Caption:
This notated shot shows where the Iverson Movie Ranch, divided into its upper and lower halves, fits into the landscape. The photo is not clear enough to provide a meaningful look at the Iverson Ranch itself, but it helps put the nearby hills, roads and other features in perspective. The photo is not dated, but appears to be from sometime in the 1920s.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-S3nstjJM0r...ye-noted+1.png


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Workman (Post 7070069)
The postcard and B&W view look south on the SP.
If that is the Sphinx rock, the movie stills are not.

Ed, the Iverson Ranch Blog I discovered identifies the rock (on the right) in the movie stills also as Sphinx. I do agree that the postcard (spelled Sphynx) and the b&w photo don't seem to resemble that particular rock, though.

According to the blog, the rocks names are often confused because over the years they were called different things in different films. Many of the rocks were called Indian Head.

In the photo below (all photos from the blog), a screen still from the film Stagecoach, the rock on the left is noted as Indian Rock, but is also known as Tower Rock and is how the Iverson's identified it. The right rock is Eagle Beak, and is how it's mostly identified at this site, but noted that it's also known as Sphinx.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-U...acharrival.jpg

Here's a recent shot of these two rocks and, it's noted, they've been incorporated presently into a park area.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_...le+Beak-IH.jpg

To make matters more confusing, here's a screen still from a Monogram western titled Overland Trails where the Eagle Beak/Sphinx rock is called "Indian Head."

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M...ils-sphinx.jpg

Oddly, though, I find this particular photo shows exactly how one could refer
to it as either Eagle Beak or Sphinx. The left side does look like an Eagle Beak
to me whereas the right side looks like the Sphinx. Opinions?


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