Originally Posted by HomrQT (Post 7722116)

Chicago has been looking forward to this site redefining our skyline for 12 years. Hopefully the wait is worth the payoff. As far as our place in the "tallest buildings in the world" department, we're getting edged out of even being in the top 15 since apparently post design antennas don't count for whatever bs reason.

Originally Posted by Mr Saturn64 (Post 7721926)

The Gateway Tower (seen in post 268) is magnificent, isn't it?

Originally Posted by HomrQT (Post 7722116)

Chicago has been looking forward to this site redefining our skyline for 12 years. Hopefully the wait is worth the payoff. As far as our place in the "tallest buildings in the world" department, we're getting edged out of even being in the top 15 since apparently post design antennas don't count for whatever bs reason.

Originally Posted by pianowizard (Post 7737332)

OMG yes! If built, this would be by far the most magnificient skyscraper in North America, not just in terms of sheer height but of design as well.



I was in Chicago earlier this week and was surprised that the Sears/Willis Tower no longer looked very tall; it used to seem taller to me. I have seen the 2074-foot Shanghai Tower in person and it appeared much, much taller. Even the 1588-foot International Commerce Center in Hong Kong looked obviously taller than Sears. Chicago deserves this 2000-footer. This height would qualify it as a "megatall", wouldn't it? I think 600 m is usually used as the threshold for megatalls.

Originally Posted by gramsjdg (Post 7722984)

Couldn't agree more. How the Sears Tower's cladded antennas don't count but WTC-1's un-cladded (and uncompleted) cable-guyed skeleton counts is beyond ridiculous.

CTBUH likely caved to 911 sentimentality pressure, at least that's what my money is on.

Originally Posted by SolarWind (Post 7720809)

Originally Posted by lu9 (Post 7742089)

^^ I would hope so. Jeez! Can you imagine the carrying cost on this thing? I'd imagine Related would want to get going ASAP. They may have missed the boat already. I'm guessing there is a lot going on behind the scenes at the moment including some wooing of Chinese money like their competitor across the river.

Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 7713811)

The question being weren't we supposed to hear something in the first half of this year about the new project for this site? Wonder if Related solicited visionary proposals in a little mini competition. Perhaps this was Gensler's submission?

Originally Posted by KWILLSKYLINE (Post 7711370)

No way^^^ I could see Magellan keeping theirs under 900' but I dont think Related is stupid enough to keep the spire site anything less than Vista.

Originally Posted by Reinsdorf Sucks (Post 7749222)

They did have a mini competition this time last year for at least a supertall, but didn't go with any of the submissions.



I believe it's the opposite. As soon as Vista broke ground the vision for this site was scaled back, and now it's likely to be 2 shorter towers.

Originally Posted by FrankLloydWrong (Post 7749261)

This is what I've heard as well. Two towers, SOM design.

Originally Posted by Reinsdorf Sucks (Post 7749222)

I believe it's the opposite. As soon as Vista broke ground the vision for this site was scaled back, and now it's likely to be 2 shorter towers.

Originally Posted by JK47 (Post 7749290)

That ticks me off so much. Frankly if they decide to go smaller I hope that site gets downzoned to a parking lot.

Originally Posted by Reinsdorf Sucks (Post 7749222)

They did have a mini competition this time last year for at least a supertall, but didn't go with any of the submissions.



I believe it's the opposite. As soon as Vista broke ground the vision for this site was scaled back, and now it's likely to be 2 shorter towers.

Originally Posted by FrankLloydWrong (Post 7749261)

This is what I've heard as well. Two towers, SOM design.

Originally Posted by TimeAgain (Post 7749945)

Twin Towers design by SOM is what Related submitted for the site 15 years ago, before the Spire won. It may still be a Twin Towers design that they go with, but I think people are reporting old info.

Originally Posted by FrankLloydWrong (Post 7749997)

I heard this recently from someone in the know. I have no reason to doubt the information I was given.