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GaylordWilshire Feb 21, 2012 2:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5598645)

"View of the awning of an Awful Fresh MacFarlane candy store, located at 3655 Wilshire Boulevard, next door to the Wilshire Boulevard Temple, visible in the background. This storefront was later demolished."

Circa 1940.

Did no one ever suggest to Mr. MacFarlane that a better way to put it might have been "Awfully Fresh"...?

rcarlton Feb 21, 2012 2:06 AM

Ansel Adams and the Pup Cafe:

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085738.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085738.jpg

"A young man walks past the "The Pup," a hot dog and hamburger stand located at 12728 Washington Blvd. in the community of Venice. The Pup is a small fast-food restaurant in the shape of a large white dog with black spots, sitting on hind legs, with access available through a door in his belly (center). Signs advertising colas and a variety of food items are seen on every side of the building. Houses can be seen in the background."

Circa 1940.

Chili-French dip over the 7-up sign. Sounds interesting.

rcarlton Feb 21, 2012 2:09 AM

Ansel Adams:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085683.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085683.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085685.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085685.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085684.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085684.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085686.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085686.jpg

"A road leads to one of the original Art Deco buildings at Santa Anita Park in Arcadia."

Circa 1940.

rcarlton Feb 21, 2012 2:11 AM

Downtown Ansel Adams:

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085784.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085784.jpg

"View of the busy intersection of Sixth Street and Broadway (center and left), which pedestrians are about to cross. An Owl Drug Co. store and Zukor's department store can be seen on Broadway. Streetcar tracks are visible on Sixth Street."

Circa 1940.

rcarlton Feb 21, 2012 2:13 AM

Ansel Adams in Beverly Hills:

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics47/00058475.jpghttp://jpg2.lapl.org/pics47/00058475.jpg

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics47/00058477.jpghttp://jpg2.lapl.org/pics47/00058477.jpg

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics47/00058476.jpghttp://jpg2.lapl.org/pics47/00058476.jpg

"Exterior view of a Van de Kamp's Bakery, located at the intersection of Wilshire Boulevard and Crescent Heights in Beverly Hills. The bakery's famous Dutch windmill graces the roof of the building. Beverly Vons Market is seen in the building on the right. All structures seen here have been demolished."

Circa 1940.

rcarlton Feb 21, 2012 2:18 AM

Ansel Adams in Westwood Village:

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085675.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085675.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085676.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085676.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085677.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085677.jpg

"Intersection of Lindbrook Drive (right) where it meets Westwood Boulevard (foreground) just outside of a Ralph's supermarket in Westwood Village. Designed by architect Russell Collins and built in 1929, the market is identified by the words "Ralphs Grocery Co.," seen over the doorway. Various businesses, including Sears and the Fox Westwood theater, are visible in the background."

Circa 1940.

rcarlton Feb 21, 2012 2:32 AM

More Ansel:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085615.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085615.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085618.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085618.jpg

"Here a man, perhaps business owner Roy Frankson, is seen writing on a pad of paper outside the entrance of Motor Glide Mart, an authorized scooter dealer, located on Wilshire Boulevard in Los Angeles. Various models of scooters, such as Powell, are on display outside of the business."

Circa 1940.

rcarlton Feb 21, 2012 2:34 AM

More Adams:

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085681.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085681.jpg

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics38/00068580.jpghttp://jpg3.lapl.org/pics38/00068580.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085682.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085682.jpg

"Pedestrians stroll down Ocean Front Promenade near the pier in the Ocean Park neighborhood of Santa Monica. Numerous attractions, businesses, and concession stands are seen. Prominently visible is the second Fox Dome Theatre (center), which was rebuilt after the large 1924 fire destroyed the original structure."

Circa 1940.

rcarlton Feb 21, 2012 2:36 AM

More Ansel Adams:

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085710.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085710.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085700.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085700.jpg

"A police officer monitors the street while employees from the Santa Monica Douglas Company plant grab lunch and other items at "Betty Mack's Barn" (background), a small food and convenience counter. There are not enough seating areas to accommodate the workers, who are seen sitting curbside to socialize and eat. Another eatery can be seen on the left."

Circa 1940.

ethereal_reality Feb 21, 2012 2:39 AM

:previous: Wonderful Ansel Adams photos rcarlton. I would love to see the interior of the Dome Theater on Ocean Park Pier.
It's too bad so many of these turn of the century piers succumbed to fire.

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Clifton's Cafeteria from above....showing the fantastic terrazzo sidewalk design.


http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/366...uenteskcet.jpg
http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_fo...e-decades.html




http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4364/...dewalkhuge.jpg
http://metroduo.wordpress.com/2011/0...lk-design0126/

rcarlton Feb 21, 2012 2:40 AM

Ansel Adams:

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085663.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085663.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00088/00088652.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00088/00088652.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085660.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085660.jpg

"A vendor in a small newsstand talks to a customer. The stand, which appears to be near the employee parking area at the Lockheed Air Terminal plant in Burbank, offers a variety of snacks, personal items, and reading materials."

Circa 1940.

The last of the Ansel Adams pictures. The rest consist of drinking, bowling and more workers at the Lockheed plant. Very noire looking.

ethereal_reality Feb 21, 2012 2:45 AM

:previous: I would love to own a couple of those pulp magazines. :)

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http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5278/longgone.jpg
found on ebay

rcarlton Feb 21, 2012 2:58 AM

Found another Ansel Adams photo I liked:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085761.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085761.jpg

"Cars travel north and south on S. Robertson Boulevard (from foreground to background) where it meets Wilshire Boulevard. A Creswell Drugs store, Hall of Fame Book Shop, and other business occupy the ornate Spanish-style building on the northeast corner. Two men are seen atop a large Coca-Cola sign, which is mounted to the roof."

Circa 1940.

ethereal_reality Feb 21, 2012 3:12 AM

The Hollywood Premier Motel, 5333 Hollywood Blvd.
This is the type of place where my family would stay. My parents couldn't afford the more luxurious places.


http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/761...emiernight.jpg
ebay


http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/509...remier5333.jpg
google street view

Surprisingly the motel looks pretty much the same after all these years..
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Alas....if you look closely it's obvious the motel has seen better days.

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/1...ier5333fle.jpg
google street view

I mean....if you can't afford a new awning at least take down the damn brackets.

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3940dxer Feb 21, 2012 6:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wig-Wag (Post 5597234)
David,

I never knew this hotel existed and I had fun rattling around on Google Maps trying to identify the various streets and roads. While I was unable to effect any positive ID's I am going to hazard a guess the Double Bow Knot Boulevard is now part of the Betty B. Dearing Trail as seen on Google Maps satellite view north of Mulholland Drive between Laurel Pass and Ardenwood Road.

Cheers,
Jack

Jack, thanks a lot for taking the time. I've been up there 2 more times since my last post here, and while I've ID'd a few road sections and made a little bit of slow progress, that "Double Bow Knot" road still has me completely baffled. In fact I spent about an hour this morning just looking for that road, with little to show for it.

I see that trail section on Google that that you mentioned, and in fact have hiked it a few times, but I kinda don't think that's the spot. I mainly say that because to my knowledge, there was no motor road that crossed Mulholland until Laurel Canyon was extended over the hill, well after the Lookout Mountain Inn burned down. But I could be wrong, and will ponder this some.

Here's another image of that same switchback section that's a little clearer. The caption suggests that this is part of Lookout Mountain Drive but I drove that whole road today, and there are no switchbacks like this at all.

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Lookout/lookout.PC2.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/

My guess is that this road is now erased from the landscape, but used to zigzag from east to west, between what is now Brier Drive and Sunset Plaza Drive. There are two visual cues that make me think this. First, the horizon and profiles of the hills in the background seem very similar. (Actually you can see all the way to Griffith Observatory from above Brier Drive, though I don't think the observatory was there when the old photo was taken.)

Second, this area, which is mostly now part of someone's yard, now has terraced sections that just might be what's left of old switchbacks. Here's a bad Google sat view of that area. This is really a terrible image and of course you have to pretend the houses aren't there, but this is the area:

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Lookout/Brier2.jpg
www.google.com

Whatever Double Bow Knot road was, I think it's gone now. I'm convinced that as new areas were developed in L.C., a lot of these steep, narrow old roads (which might not have been maintained after the Inn burned) became part of a residential lot, or some new, realigned road, or were returned to the earth by storms, slides, fires. Maybe some sections were even bulldozed away by developers, to make the hillsides look normal again. These upper reaches of Laurel Canyon were pricey, with a lot of fabulous homes.

In my sleuthing for the original old roads, I've learned to keep an eye out for old wood fences like this one. They always look have this look and are always painted white. In the old photos, most roads have these fences (though I doubt they stopped anyone from going over the side).
http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Lookout/100_6334.b.jpg
My photo.

When I see these fences I always think "old road". But the funny thing, I've seen little sections of these fences in some pretty random places, a block or 2 or 3 from any existing road. So for sure, some of those old roads were just erased.

Still and all, thanks a lot for your reply, and you just might be right -- maybe there was a motor road from Mulholland to Lookout back then. I been pretty startled by other things in my L.C. explorations, and you never know.

In the next day or so Ill post some images that show the Lookout Inn site today. I'm still working on the roads part and will come back to that later. I found that the Auto Club office on Figueroa has an archive department, and I'm thinking to check with the city or county -- maybe they have records of these old roads.

3940dxer Feb 21, 2012 6:36 AM

AND - thank you everyone for all the fantastic photos posted lately, especially the Ansel Adams images. I have a lot of catching up to do!

ethereal_reality Feb 21, 2012 7:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 5598959)
In my sleuthing for the original old roads, I've learned to keep an eye out for old wood fences like this one. They always look have this look and are always painted white. In the old photos, most roads have these fences (though I doubt they stopped anyone from going over the side).
http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Lookout/100_6334.b.jpg
My photo.

I'm amazed these archaic wood fences have survived after all these years.
Great research David 3940dxer!

GaylordWilshire Feb 21, 2012 11:35 AM

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7...2520AM.bmp.jpgAMPAS

Wow.

GaylordWilshire Feb 21, 2012 11:37 AM

Imagining the good life in the depths of the Depression...
 
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z...2520PM.bmp.jpgAlden Jewell

Two new Oldsmobiles in front of the Ambassador. From an ad in the Saturday Evening Post, May 30, 1933.

rcarlton Feb 22, 2012 1:48 AM

Another Ansel Adams showing a typical street:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085742.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085742.jpg

"A car travels south on an unidentified palm-lined street in Los Angeles. Apartment buildings, of various architectural styles, are located on both sides of the street."

Circa 1940.


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