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mystery location. It appears that a group of boy scouts, back in 1930, discovered a mysterious cave near the Veterans Home in Sawtelle. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/OVYUvC.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/VV52m7.jpg UCLA VOODOO! A glimpse inside the cave. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/LNSRBr.jpg UCLA I wonder why there are two girls and not the Boy Scouts? Additional information. (mostly covered in the letter) except for this enticing clue: "The location of the cave is given as near the northerly end of Bundy Drive." "Interior view of cave with rock carvings described as Egyptians, rock carved fireplace in corner, and 2 unidentified girls, one seated on rock bench, one standing, Text from nitrate negative sleeve: 2464. P 1-2-3-4-5-6. Cave. Sawtelle. Cave. Photo by Adelbert Bartlett, 535 15th Street, Santa Monica, Calif. Mysterious cave, with plaque of Lincoln carved above entrance, and figures of Egyptians within, discovered recently by Boy Scouts in Santa Monica mountains near Sawtelle, California. Officials at National Military Home there state the cave was work of colored veteran some 25 years ago. The man would disappear for days in the hills. He was known to have been a devotee of voodoo magic. (Clarice Barclay stands outside door.), The location of the cave is given as near the northerly end of Bundy Drive." Help me find this cave. . . minions. :superwhip . |
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From the March 10, 1930 LA Times: https://i.postimg.cc/Fzx360Xc/Annota...-23-010330.jpg So it was opposite a lemon grove. Let's look at a period aerial photo(1928) from our friends at UCSB and their Framefinder collection: https://i.postimg.cc/0y1dN5cb/Annota...-23-010736.jpg This shows us that the northern end of Bundy Dr. didn't go all that far after Norman branches out to the canyon to the immediate east. There are however lots of cultivated trees(I assume lemon) along Bundy. Now to see why we'll probably never know exactly where the cave was(pretty sure it was filled in and built over), a current view of that portion of Bundy from our good friends at Google Maps: https://i.postimg.cc/DZQds907/Annota...-23-010858.jpg |
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We're on the case ... but it might be a tough one - witness statements are somewhat conflicting. https://i.imgur.com/UGkV7KA.jpg :???: :) |
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But, like you, I highly doubt that it has survived ....I'm going to study your maps and then snoop around in the area anyway. After my initial post I searched through more photographs and found an image of the Abraham Lincoln carving. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/OfjKAn.jpg UCLA As you can see in this next photograph, the 'cave' was more like a hidden room. As the article said, the entrance was entirely covered in vines when the Boy Scouts happened upon it. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/fW0OWM.jpg UCLA It would have taken explosives to destroy this thing. . |
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Here's another mystery location listed on eBay SELLER'S DESCRIPTION:...."1910'S ORIGINAL NEGATIVE...HANE BROS GAS STATION, MT GRADE LIQUEUR, LOS ANGELES? AREA?" https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/t0PBoM.jpg eBay Here's a closer look at the Hane Bros. Gas Station and the Mt. Grade Liquor Store. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/2B9VAa.jpg detail If you look closely at the first triangle on the roof of the liquor store you'll see that it says Mt. Grade. I typed "Mt. Grade". . ."Mount Grade Cal" . . "Mt. Grade, California" into Google Earth and received no results. I found a Mount Drive in Garden Grove but that's neither here nor there. . |
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My guess is that's the Mt. Washington Area, and the street in the foreground along the railroad tracks is Marmion Way... |
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https://i.imgur.com/6PGapLY.jpg rescarta.lapl.org LAFD Station 76, built in 1950, now stands there. https://i.imgur.com/8K6kYuC.jpg Google Maps The store selling "Hi Grade Liquors Wines Beers" was owned by Richard H. Smith. https://i.imgur.com/lBt3ssy.jpg rescarta.lapl.org |
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I found this page, http://theoldmotor.com/?p=155068 which mentions two Hane Bros service stations. Apparently they had more than that. This one was at 3764 Beverly Blvd. https://i.imgur.com/dIqeaS9.jpg?1 And this one which is described as the main station gives no location. There is a street sign but I can't make it out. The photos are said to be dated 1934 but obviously both are different locations than the one in e_r's image. One commentor speculates that this one might be near the Wilshire District, based on the streetlights. https://i.imgur.com/5LDxTrS.jpg?1 A third photo with an unknown locale shows what may or may not be another Hanes Bros. station and a cool little Studebaker dealership, and offers a new mystery location. https://i.imgur.com/owjxkAm.jpg?1 |
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Martin, I thought it looked to hilly for that area but I believe you are correct. Looking at the street sign with a magnifier, N. Juanita Ave looks right. You are correct with all the other signs matching up too. That would put the fancy street lights on Beverly Blvd. which makes sense. I also re-read the caption at the Oldmotor page and it said that all along - duh! Present Day https://i.imgur.com/XzwcoEz.png?1GSV The streetlight has lost some charm but the base appears to have survived |
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https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...AHaneBros1.jpg USC Digital Library The original image also reveals an "1800" on the door under the "S" of "Studebaker". San Fernando Road and Thompson Avenue intersect in Glendale, although neither has an 1800 block anywhere near. Was San Fernando Road renumbered at some point? Looking at the UCSB aerials, a 1938 image has a possible match on the NW corner of the intersection, which now has an odd street number. |
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The numbering on San Fernando Rd. changed in 1935 - the year after the photograph was taken. https://i.imgur.com/20A4ly0.jpg archive.org - Glendale CD 1935 archive.org - Glendale CD 1937 |
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Thanks for figuring out the location of the Hane Bros. in the eBay photograph. ...There were so many great responses! :) Here's another mystery location from ebay. It shows a parade during the 1938 American Legion National Convention in Los Angeles. This convention. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/nM3qpI.jpg emblem.legion Here's the eBay photograph. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/U4D70B.jpg eBay At first glance I thought the parade was passing by Pershing Square. . .but now I'm thinking Westside Park. (later named MacArthur Park) Info. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/EwWsxZ.jpg hmmm. . .if you look closely, you can see the roof of a large building within the park. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/YBlJe2.jpg detail Also note the free standing pillar in the park. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/4otC3A.jpg . . .or is that a lamp post? . |
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How 'bout two mystery locations this afternoon? "O.B. Saloon fire Circa 1970s" https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/qrEiem.jpg LAFDHS / flicker The shamrock makes me think the saloon was an Irish bar. . . . . .and if you look above the window on the left there is a word. . .either "REST" or "WEST". :shrug: and any idea what the two letters (symbols?) after O.B. stand for? https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/33JblP.jpg detail flicker . |
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On a lighter note. Marlon Brando photobombs Elizabeth Taylor, 1967 https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/ue1phu.jpg vintagetoday ...Ha Ha . |
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ETA: The palm tree at the top center is the Arcade Palm. |
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