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BlackDog204 Jan 25, 2022 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by biguc (Post 9505294)

At its worst, you got the most memeably Xer genre: rap rock. You could argue that musical pop culture died at Woodstock '99, smothered under a pile of rapey proto-juggalos. The last thing it saw was Fred Durst's stupid, perma-O face. Music sharing came around just when our capacity for innovation had run out.

Nu metal (rap-rock), was really an early Millennial fad, and should not be attributed to Gen X. It's popularity peaked around 2001, and was big from around 1999-2003.

Considering Gen X is usually classified as people born on Jan.1, 1965 until either Dec.31 1979 or Dec.31, 1981 (depending who you ask), and the core audience for Nu Metal were teenagers, mainly born from 1980-89.
There is no way Nu Metal was going to appeal to people in their late 20s and beyond.

urbandreamer Jan 25, 2022 1:02 AM

Most of the DJs I grew up with are still making music. Is electronic music more multigenerational vs mainstream rock pop etc?

Friday I went to London trying to find what Molson Ex hates about the place: failed: I love it! Downtown London reminds me of Hamilton c.2008 - cool! Anyway I found it amusing to finally be listening to CHRW (Radio Western) in London rather than the sticks like I used to: all kinds of music from new metal to pop to dance music.)

Today I pulled out my vinyl and listened to the Rolling Stones, Soft Cell, Astral Projection and a bunch of disco.

I didn't really start listening to metal until I came across an excellent metal show on Conestoga College Radio c.2001. I certainly see parallels between metal, classical and dance music. In the early/mid-90s, I'd stay up all night listening to obscure shows on CKLN (Ryerson Radio) and CIUT. I probably listened to college radio more than the CBC after Patti Schmidt took over Brave New Waves.

harls Jan 25, 2022 7:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport (Post 9512594)
The Jeffersons >> The Cosbys

It wasn't even close.

And that toe-tapping, great theme song...

I've been rewatching Three's Company lately. No one can do physical comedy like John Ritter. Change my mind.

acottawa Jan 25, 2022 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackDog204 (Post 9513039)
Nu metal (rap-rock), was really an early Millennial fad, and should not be attributed to Gen X. It's popularity peaked around 2001, and was big from around 1999-2003.

Considering Gen X is usually classified as people born on Jan.1, 1965 until either Dec.31 1979 or Dec.31, 1981 (depending who you ask), and the core audience for Nu Metal were teenagers, mainly born from 1980-89.
There is no way Nu Metal was going to appeal to people in their late 20s and beyond.

Yeah, late Gen X was into “alternative” in its heyday with rap growing in popularity towards the end of the decade.

MonctonRad Jan 25, 2022 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by harls (Post 9513277)
I've been rewatching Three's Company lately. No one can do physical comedy like John Ritter. Change my mind.

Three's Company was pretty much my favourite sitcom from the 1970s (its English antecedent was pretty good too), but, boy, it really hasn't aged well ( in terms of being completely anachronistic now).

Acajack Jan 25, 2022 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad (Post 9513342)
Three's Company was pretty much my favourite sitcom from the 1970s (its English antecedent was pretty good too), but, boy, it really hasn't aged well ( in terms of being completely anachronistic now).

For many years, the CBC broadcast Three's Company every weekday in a time slot around 5 pm. For millions of Canadians of my generation, watching the show was a daily after school ritual.

I guess that's one way the CBC brought Canadians together with shared cultural experiences! :haha:

biguc Jan 25, 2022 1:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackDog204 (Post 9513039)
Nu metal (rap-rock), was really an early Millennial fad, and should not be attributed to Gen X. It's popularity peaked around 2001, and was big from around 1999-2003.

Considering Gen X is usually classified as people born on Jan.1, 1965 until either Dec.31 1979 or Dec.31, 1981 (depending who you ask), and the core audience for Nu Metal were teenagers, mainly born from 1980-89.
There is no way Nu Metal was going to appeal to people in their late 20s and beyond.

Nu Metal was made and marketed by Xers. Attributing it to the tweeners who listened to it in the 90s is wrong.

niwell Jan 25, 2022 1:56 PM

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Originally Posted by biguc (Post 9513356)
Nu Metal was made and marketed by Xers. Attributing it to the tweeners who listened to it in the 90s is wrong.


Definitely. There were a few early millennials in bands at the tail end of the genre (such as teen band Kittie) but overwhelmingly the artists were Gen-Xers. A lot more than you'd expect were in their late 20s or even 30s when the genre hit big.

I started with Nu Metal early enough to buy Korn's first album shortly after it was released (basically the first real album in the genre - still holds up), but did so because my friends Gen-X older brother introduced us to the metal and punk bands he listened to. Even in the context of listeners the big target audience was probably the grey zone between X and Millennial which I fit into - usually defined as being born between 79 and 84.

acottawa Jan 25, 2022 2:00 PM

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Originally Posted by biguc (Post 9513356)
Nu Metal was made and marketed by Xers. Attributing it to the tweeners who listened to it in the 90s is wrong.

Isn’t that true of every genre of music? (The artists are older than the audience).

MolsonExport Jan 25, 2022 6:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 9513350)
For many years, the CBC broadcast Three's Company every weekday in a time slot around 5 pm. For millions of Canadians of my generation, watching the show was a daily after school ritual.

I guess that's one way the CBC brought Canadians together with shared cultural experiences! :haha:

Come and knock on our door. We've been waiting for you.
Where the kisses are hers and hers and his, three's company too.

Come and dance on our floor. Take a step that is new.
We've a lovable space that needs your face, three's company too.

You'll see that life is a ball again and laughter is calling for you.
Down at our rendezvous, three is company, too.

MolsonExport Jan 25, 2022 6:12 PM

After school shows of my youth:
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O-tacular Jan 25, 2022 6:18 PM

Most Brutal Nu Metal Scream:

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:P

ScreamingViking Jan 25, 2022 6:23 PM

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Originally Posted by harls (Post 9513277)
I've been rewatching Three's Company lately. No one can do physical comedy like John Ritter. Change my mind.

Can't be done, the change of mind. Nope. Nope nope nope. :cheers:

EDIT: Ritter was more well known for the sitcoms, but if anyone gets a chance to watch him in Skin Deep, take that chance.

Acajack Jan 25, 2022 6:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport (Post 9513832)
After school shows of my youth:

This too. I think it was paired with Three's Company:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBI6L9eOeRM

Not sure which one was on first.

Acajack Jan 25, 2022 6:28 PM

After Friday night high school dances, which would end around 11-ish, we'd all rush home and watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T53uVuv9Vng

ScreamingViking Jan 25, 2022 6:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 9513863)
After Friday night high school dances, which would end around 11-ish, we'd all rush home and watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T53uVuv9Vng

Did your dances end with Stairway to Heaven? Ours did.

O-tacular Jan 25, 2022 6:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 9513863)
After Friday night high school dances, which would end around 11-ish, we'd all rush home and watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T53uVuv9Vng

We had Much Music video dance parties in my day. I can still remember the girls at my junior high losing their minds when Rick Campanelli came.

Acajack Jan 25, 2022 6:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ScreamingViking (Post 9513868)
Did your dances end with Stairway to Heaven? Ours did.

Indeed they did.

Occasionally it would be "Last Dance" by Diana Ross.

But most of the time it was "Stairway to Heaven".

ScreamingViking Jan 25, 2022 6:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 9513870)
Indeed they did.

Occasionally it would be "Last Dance" by Diana Ross.

But most of the time it was "Stairway to Heaven".

Fond memories. Nobody knew what to do during the faster part... some continued to slow dance, some got jiggy with it. lol

The last call music of the bar scene thankfully differed... but "Closing Time" became a staple in the late 1990s

esquire Jan 25, 2022 6:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 9513350)
For many years, the CBC broadcast Three's Company every weekday in a time slot around 5 pm. For millions of Canadians of my generation, watching the show was a daily after school ritual.

I guess that's one way the CBC brought Canadians together with shared cultural experiences! :haha:

I can relate to this, I used to watch Three's Company when I was in elementary school. Even though I'm sure much of it went way over my head.

That is one thing that I suppose has changed since I was a kid in the 80s... back then, in the pre-specialty cable channel era, kids' shows were mostly limited to Saturday morning with a small smattering of kid stuff throughout the rest of the week. When I was a kid, I ended up watching stuff not meant for kids simply because there were no age-appropriate options most of the time. When I was under 10, I remember watching Knight Rider, The A-Team, shows like that. When my parents turned me loose at the video store, I remember picking stuff like Rambo movies, raunchy 80s comedies, etc. I remember watching wrestling which was somewhat kid-friendly in those years but even still not the greatest content.

By contrast, my kids have an endless array of kid content to stream on Netflix, Disney+, etc. Most of it is reasonably high quality even though some shows are so-so. I get usage reports for their profiles and I'm not sure that they ever see anything they aren't supposed to. Mostly cartoons and kid-oriented shows. My son is 8 and has a few favourite youtubers, but most of the stuff he watches on that platform is either pretty wholesome like Dude Perfect (sports trick shots and related antics) or just straight up sports content like NHL/WHL highlight reels.

I guess they don't have those shared experiences like us with the Three's Company, but they are definitely exposed to way less content that isn't meant for them.


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